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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:21 am
Post subject: wheel bearings
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Have 1998 Forester. Have replaced wheel bearings 5 times and just told
right rear needs to be replaced again.

Anyone else having this type of issue?

>> Stay informed about: wheel bearings

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: Re: wheel bearings [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

5 times, Oh wow... The wheel bearings preload is given when tightening the axle nut... are yours being overtorqued, undertorqued? Are you getting dealer bearings? Is the alignment correct? Is the car being abused, misused? Has it been the same mechanic every time? Good luck! dba wrote: > Have 1998 Forester. Have replaced wheel bearings 5 times and just told > right rear needs to be replaced again. > > Anyone else having this type of issue? >> Stay informed about: wheel bearings

Tony Hwang

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:52 am Post subject: Re: wheel bearings [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

dba wrote: > Have 1998 Forester. Have replaced wheel bearings 5 times and just told > right rear needs to be replaced again. > > Anyone else having this type of issue? Hi, Happend 3 times between two my00 Impreza. >> Stay informed about: wheel bearings

Carl 1 Lucky Texan

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:08 am Post subject: Re: wheel bearings [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

dba wrote: > Have 1998 Forester. Have replaced wheel bearings 5 times and just told > right rear needs to be replaced again. > > Anyone else having this type of issue? It 'was' easy to get the same, poor, bearings instead of the legacy-style roller bearings. I THINK new stock should be 'good'.(where's that Steve guy the sube tech?) There also have been issues with determining whetehr the grease that is shipped in the bearings should be replaced. PLUS - it is evidently VERY easy to install them improperly. make sure whoever installs them has the proper equipment. Carl -- to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) >> Stay informed about: wheel bearings

StephenW

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:25 am Post subject: Re: wheel bearings [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I'm here! Just getting over a family tragedy, loss of my brother, so internet hasn't been important lately. in our shop, almost no returns on wheel bearings and we haven't had round bearings as a replacement part in years. over torquing could be a culprit. "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" <alckytxn.TakeThisOut@swbell.not> wrote in message news:ZE4yj.9274$xq2.2739@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... > dba wrote: >> Have 1998 Forester. Have replaced wheel bearings 5 times and just told >> right rear needs to be replaced again. >> >> Anyone else having this type of issue? > > It 'was' easy to get the same, poor, bearings instead of the legacy-style > roller bearings. I THINK new stock should be 'good'.(where's that Steve > guy the sube tech?) > > There also have been issues with determining whetehr the grease that is > shipped in the bearings should be replaced. > > PLUS - it is evidently VERY easy to install them improperly. make sure > whoever installs them has the proper equipment. > > > Carl > > > -- > to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) >> Stay informed about: wheel bearings

Carl 1 Lucky Texan

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: wheel bearings [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

StephenW wrote: > I'm here! > Just getting over a family tragedy, loss of my brother, so internet hasn't > been important lately. > in our shop, almost no returns on wheel bearings and we haven't had round > bearings as a replacement part in years. > over torquing could be a culprit. > > > > "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" <alckytxn.DeleteThis@swbell.not> wrote in message > news:ZE4yj.9274$xq2.2739@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... > >>dba wrote: >> >>>Have 1998 Forester. Have replaced wheel bearings 5 times and just told >>>right rear needs to be replaced again. >>> >>>Anyone else having this type of issue? >> >>It 'was' easy to get the same, poor, bearings instead of the legacy-style >>roller bearings. I THINK new stock should be 'good'.(where's that Steve >>guy the sube tech?) >> >>There also have been issues with determining whetehr the grease that is >>shipped in the bearings should be replaced. >> >>PLUS - it is evidently VERY easy to install them improperly. make sure >>whoever installs them has the proper equipment. >> >> >>Carl >> >> >>-- >>to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) > > > Of course we couldn't have known of your family's tragedy. I hope everyone will be OK in time. Carl -- to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) >> Stay informed about: wheel bearings

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:47 am Post subject: Re: wheel bearings [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

>> >> > > Of course we couldn't have known of your family's tragedy. I hope everyone > will be OK in time. > > Carl > Time will heal, but it will be slow. it was so unexpected. He was only a year older than I (46) and retired from the AF 8 years ago. I found him, untreated ulcers can kill... Thanks for your kind thoughts. Steve >> Stay informed about: wheel bearings

houndman

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:46 am Post subject: Re: wheel bearings [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On 3 Mar, 03:47, "StephenW" <Flatheadst... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote: > > Of course we couldn't have known of your family's tragedy. I hope everyone > > will be OK in time. > > > Carl > > Time will heal, but it will be slow. it was so unexpected. He was only a > year older than I (46) and retired from the AF 8 years ago. I found him, > untreated ulcers can kill... > Thanks for your kind thoughts. > Steve The net has many benefits, and extends our networks far, and connects us. We can get info plus support in troubling times. Life is sometimes short, so enjoy it while you can. VF >> Stay informed about: wheel bearings

dba

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: wheel bearings [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Excuse my late response. First, it seems there can be many install issues. How the heck do I determine if someone is capable of a good install? What about over tightening? Is there special equipment needed? Steve, you mention a 'round bearing'. Do not know what that means. Any help? Sad to hear about your brother. It is especially sad when a family member leaves. StephenW wrote: > I'm here! > Just getting over a family tragedy, loss of my brother, so internet hasn't > been important lately. > in our shop, almost no returns on wheel bearings and we haven't had round > bearings as a replacement part in years. > over torquing could be a culprit. > > > > "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" <alckytxn.RemoveThis@swbell.not> wrote in message > news:ZE4yj.9274$xq2.2739@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... > >>dba wrote: >> >>>Have 1998 Forester. Have replaced wheel bearings 5 times and just told >>>right rear needs to be replaced again. >>> >>>Anyone else having this type of issue? >> >>It 'was' easy to get the same, poor, bearings instead of the legacy-style >>roller bearings. I THINK new stock should be 'good'.(where's that Steve >>guy the sube tech?) >> >>There also have been issues with determining whetehr the grease that is >>shipped in the bearings should be replaced. >> >>PLUS - it is evidently VERY easy to install them improperly. make sure >>whoever installs them has the proper equipment. >> >> >>Carl >> >> >>-- >>to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) > > > >> Stay informed about: wheel bearings

Tony Hwang

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 12:15 am Post subject: Re: wheel bearings [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

dba wrote: > Have 1998 Forester. Have replaced wheel bearings 5 times and just told > right rear needs to be replaced again. > > Anyone else having this type of issue? Hi, Who did the job? Bearing install has specific procedure per shop manual. Also there are El Cheapo bearings of Chinese origin. Installing OEM bearings? >> Stay informed about: wheel bearings

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:53 am Post subject: Re: wheel bearings [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Tony Hwang" <dragon40.RemoveThis@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:BihFj.108203$w94.91954@pd7urf2no... > dba wrote: > >> Have 1998 Forester. Have replaced wheel bearings 5 times and just told >> right rear needs to be replaced again. >> >> Anyone else having this type of issue? > Hi, > Who did the job? Bearing install has specific procedure per shop manual. > Also there are El Cheapo bearings of Chinese origin. Installing OEM > bearings? They also should be replaced in pairs. >> Stay informed about: wheel bearings

Stewart

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: wheel bearings [Login to view extended thread Info.] Imported from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

This message is not archived >> Stay informed about: wheel bearings

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: wheel bearings [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Stewart" <Stu.TakeThisOut@abacus.com> wrote in message news:983du395fs03msqblhgdioro4ma87q0iil@4ax.com... > On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:53:20 GMT, "JD" <me.TakeThisOut@home.ca> wrote: > > >> >>They also should be replaced in pairs. > > > Why is this? My Forester has just been for its service and the report > says > there is play in the nearside rear bearing, which needs to be replaced. I > asked > the service manager and he said it wasn't necessary to replace the other > one. > > I seek another opinion. If they are worn unevenly, play in the older one can cause wear in the newer one and they may fail prematurely. >> Stay informed about: wheel bearings

Tony Hwang

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: wheel bearings [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

JD wrote: > > "Stewart" <Stu RemoveThis @abacus.com> wrote in message > news:983du395fs03msqblhgdioro4ma87q0iil@4ax.com... > >> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:53:20 GMT, "JD" <me RemoveThis @home.ca> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> They also should be replaced in pairs. >> >> >> >> Why is this? My Forester has just been for its service and the report >> says >> there is play in the nearside rear bearing, which needs to be >> replaced. I asked >> the service manager and he said it wasn't necessary to replace the >> other one. >> >> > > I seek another opinion. If they are worn unevenly, play in the older > one can cause wear in the newer one and they may fail prematurely. Hmmm, That is news to me. Bearing assembly is replaced when is is bad. Uneven wear? You mean both side has to wear in identical manner? I think not. Everything has aloowed tolerance. Most bearing failure is due to contamination when seal is compromised. In old days I used clean/pack wheel bearings a lot. >> Stay informed about: wheel bearings

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: wheel bearings [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Tony Hwang" <dragon40 RemoveThis @shaw.ca> wrote in message news:RQzFj.110006$pM4.86783@pd7urf1no... > JD wrote: >> >> "Stewart" <Stu RemoveThis @abacus.com> wrote in message >> news:983du395fs03msqblhgdioro4ma87q0iil@4ax.com... >> >>> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:53:20 GMT, "JD" <me RemoveThis @home.ca> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> They also should be replaced in pairs. >>> >>> >>> >>> Why is this? My Forester has just been for its service and the report >>> says >>> there is play in the nearside rear bearing, which needs to be replaced. >>> I asked >>> the service manager and he said it wasn't necessary to replace the other >>> one. >>> >>> >> >> I seek another opinion. If they are worn unevenly, play in the older one >> can cause wear in the newer one and they may fail prematurely. > Hmmm, > That is news to me. Bearing assembly is replaced when is is bad. > Uneven wear? You mean both side has to wear in identical manner? > I think not. Everything has aloowed tolerance. Most bearing failure > is due to contamination when seal is compromised. In old days I used > clean/pack wheel bearings a lot. I'm not a mechanic, but it was always explained to me that they should be relaced in pairs and the above is why. Granted, it was mechanics that explained to me and I haven't looked into it any further. Interestingly enough, when I was too cheap to replace them in pairs, they tended to fail much sooner than expected. Whenever they were replaced in pairs, they genrally last as long as the OEMs did. It is annectdotal though. >> Stay informed about: wheel bearings

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