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Since: Mar 26, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:29 am
Post subject: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:10 am
Post subject: Re: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"we love what we know; we know what we love"
That said -- you should realliy get used to them -- they work great; and make a
HUGE difference. Go to an empty parking lot on a rainy day -- drive hit the
brakes hard and turn -- notice you can still steer the car! You cannot do that
if you lock up the brakes.
The only time I've seen abs be a hinderance is in snow & sand - where you want
that lock up to sorta build a bunch of snow/sand in front to help slow you down.
Ice you still want abs.
They're different, I know my first car that had them it felt like they weren't
doin ga good job & I could pump the brakes 'better' -- after a fewmonths; I
realized they worked way better than I could ever do it; especially in emergency
situations.
I'm pretty sure you'd get in trouble if it's determined you intentially disabled
the abs system and you were in an accident.
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:29:20 -0700, "Sheldon"
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>I've never had a car with ABS, and my new/used Outback has it. I really
>hate it. Can I turn it off by pulling the fuse? I'm aware of the safety
>aspect, but IMO I feel I can do a better job myself.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:48 am
Post subject: Re: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hey Sheldon,
I'm not trying to piss on your parade or anything, and I'm sure you are
an awesome driver. But, ABS has come a long ways, and is quite
advanced. I respect your opinion, and your right to modify YOUR
Outback, but why not put in a fuse to eliminate the AWD too. See what
I'm saying? If you wanted a car without modern safety devices, why not
just buy an older car?
Anyhow, I swear I'm not trying to tell you your business.
J >> Stay informed about: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:35 am
Post subject: Re: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Josh Assing" wrote in message
> I'm pretty sure you'd get in trouble if it's determined you intentially
> disabled
> the abs system and you were in an accident.
In which states is there a law that demands that all vehicles be equipped
with ABS? Lots of other cars do NOT have ABS and they are still allowed to
drive on public roads. Having ABS will not eliminate accidents. I'm sure
the insurance companies would appreciate you adding an alarm system to your
vehicle at your expense and may even give you a discount but they cannot
require the alarm because it isn't required by law. >> Stay informed about: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 7:50 pm
Post subject: Re: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"j" wrote in message
> Hey Sheldon,
>
> I'm not trying to piss on your parade or anything, and I'm sure you are
> an awesome driver. But, ABS has come a long ways, and is quite
> advanced. I respect your opinion, and your right to modify YOUR
> Outback, but why not put in a fuse to eliminate the AWD too. See what
> I'm saying? If you wanted a car without modern safety devices, why not
> just buy an older car?
>
> Anyhow, I swear I'm not trying to tell you your business.
>
> J
I appreciate your thoughts, and everyone else's. I fully understand how ABS
works, and why it works. I just feel that unless you are in a panic
situation, and don't know how to brake properly or just can't get your brain
involved fast enough, a good driver should be able to stop their car faster
without ABS. It snows here a lot, and that's when I would disconnect it. I
like the feedback I get when the car starts to slide. Call me crazy, but
that's how I feel.
I've always wondered, however, that the police tend to use skid marks to
determine how fast you are going when you brake. Any good driver knows that
your car will stop much faster if the brakes are applied just up to the edge
of lockup but not beyond. So, an "excellent" driver with great skills would
leave no skid marks under any circumstance.
To those who pointed out airbags, remember that those were put in because
many of us are too stupid to use seatbelts. If everyone was required to
wear a 5 point harness an airbag would be an anachronistic device.
I don't claim to be Mario Andretti, and my problems may be twofold. 1. I'm
not used to ABS. 2. The studdless snow tires that are on my car are worn
beyond the point of being as good as they once were on ice (the car I sold
to get this one had new Blizzaks on it).
Again, thanks for all the good comments. I'll probably run out these tires
this summer and get new studdless tires next winter and see how it goes --
hopefully the combination of those, the ABS and, of course, my "excellent"
driving skills <BG>, should work well together.
Sheldon >> Stay informed about: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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He is not saying there is a law. What he and others are saying, if a car
comes from the factory with abs, or other safety features (air bags,
bumpers) and you disable them, and you are involved in an accident, this
could be used against you if discovered.
The insurance companies give discounts for abs & air bags in addition to
car alarms.
Blair
"Vanguard" wrote in message
> "Josh Assing" wrote in message
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>> I'm pretty sure you'd get in trouble if it's determined you intentially
>> disabled
>> the abs system and you were in an accident.
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> In which states is there a law that demands that all vehicles be equipped
> with ABS? Lots of other cars do NOT have ABS and they are still allowed
> to drive on public roads. Having ABS will not eliminate accidents. I'm
> sure the insurance companies would appreciate you adding an alarm system
> to your vehicle at your expense and may even give you a discount but they
> cannot require the alarm because it isn't required by law. >> Stay informed about: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:04 pm
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:04 pm
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Theodrake wrote:
> Isn't their a ABS re-code out there for some Subaru's. I believe their
> is for my 2003 WRX which I'm planning on trying to get.
There is. I had my '02 wrx done several months ago. The
ABS hasn't kicked on since and I keep forgetting to test it.
-rick- >> Stay informed about: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:48 am
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:28 am
Post subject: Re: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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j wrote:
> For those of you wishing to disable ABS by pulling the fuse, but being
> reluctant due to potential liability ramifications. Perhaps you could
> replace the fuse with one that's been popped. Then, if it becomes an
> issue, who knows who's at fault.
then the ABS light on the dash should light up and warn you of the
problem. you'd be in trouble for not fixing the problem. even if the
light didn't come on, you're still responsible for your car and any
"problems" it has. >> Stay informed about: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:27 pm
Post subject: Re: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Mike Deskevich wrote:
> j wrote:
> > For those of you wishing to disable ABS by pulling the fuse, but being
> > reluctant due to potential liability ramifications. Perhaps you could
> > replace the fuse with one that's been popped. Then, if it becomes an
> > issue, who knows who's at fault.
>
> then the ABS light on the dash should light up and warn you of the
> problem. you'd be in trouble for not fixing the problem. even if the
> light didn't come on, you're still responsible for your car and any
> "problems" it has.
Not really. As it was mentioned before cars don't have to be equipped
with ABS.
In case someone would try to use ABS-out against you they would most
likely have to prove the fuse blew up before the trip an accident
happened on. If I were a lawyer I won't
try to pull a stint like that. >> Stay informed about: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:40 pm
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:36 pm
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"Body Roll" wrote in message
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> Mike Deskevich wrote:
>> j wrote:
>> > For those of you wishing to disable ABS by pulling the fuse, but being
>> > reluctant due to potential liability ramifications. Perhaps you could
>> > replace the fuse with one that's been popped. Then, if it becomes an
>> > issue, who knows who's at fault.
>>
>> then the ABS light on the dash should light up and warn you of the
>> problem. you'd be in trouble for not fixing the problem. even if the
>> light didn't come on, you're still responsible for your car and any
>> "problems" it has.
>
> Not really. As it was mentioned before cars don't have to be equipped
> with ABS.
> In case someone would try to use ABS-out against you they would most
> likely have to prove the fuse blew up before the trip an accident
> happened on. If I were a lawyer I won't
> try to pull a stint like that.
>
I try to imagine myself being questioned by a lawyer. How about, "Your car
was found to have defective brakes, is that true?"
Mike >> Stay informed about: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:48 pm
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On 2006-03-21 15:36:54 -0800, "Michael Pardee"
said:
> "Body Roll" wrote in message
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>>
>> Mike Deskevich wrote:
>>> j wrote:
>>>> For those of you wishing to disable ABS by pulling the fuse, but being
>>>> reluctant due to potential liability ramifications. Perhaps you could
>>>> replace the fuse with one that's been popped. Then, if it becomes an
>>>> issue, who knows who's at fault.
>>>
>>> then the ABS light on the dash should light up and warn you of the
>>> problem. you'd be in trouble for not fixing the problem. even if the
>>> light didn't come on, you're still responsible for your car and any
>>> "problems" it has.
>>
>> Not really. As it was mentioned before cars don't have to be equipped
>> with ABS.
>> In case someone would try to use ABS-out against you they would most
>> likely have to prove the fuse blew up before the trip an accident
>> happened on. If I were a lawyer I won't
>> try to pull a stint like that.
>>
> I try to imagine myself being questioned by a lawyer. How about, "Your
> car was found to have defective brakes, is that true?"
>
> Mike
answer: "if the brakes will lock all four wheels at once on dry
pavement, is that defective?" >> Stay informed about: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:55 am
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This is correct. When one wheel sensor cable came loose in a previous
vehicle (not Subaru) it set the light and stored a code. I wonder if they
get time/date stamps when a code is set?
Blair
"Mike Deskevich" wrote in message
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> j wrote:
>> For those of you wishing to disable ABS by pulling the fuse, but being
>> reluctant due to potential liability ramifications. Perhaps you could
>> replace the fuse with one that's been popped. Then, if it becomes an
>> issue, who knows who's at fault.
>
> then the ABS light on the dash should light up and warn you of the
> problem. you'd be in trouble for not fixing the problem. even if the
> light didn't come on, you're still responsible for your car and any
> "problems" it has.
> >> Stay informed about: Can you turn off ABS by pulling the fuse? |
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