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PETER EBERL

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:56 pm
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I'm going to buy a 2008 Tribeca insted of the Outback Sedan my wife wants me
to get, she has a 2002 H6 with VDC and has 60,002 miles on it with no
problems at all, she thinks that I'm a fool to get a SUV instead of what she
claims is the best Soobie ever...any thoughts out there?--Is she correct or
am I just being a stubborn SOB?

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Catherine Jefferson

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PETER EBERL wrote:
> I'm going to buy a 2008 Tribeca insted of the Outback Sedan my wife wants me
> to get, she has a 2002 H6 with VDC and has 60,002 miles on it with no
> problems at all, she thinks that I'm a fool to get a SUV instead of what she
> claims is the best Soobie ever...any thoughts out there?--Is she correct or
> am I just being a stubborn SOB?

I'm not sure the Legacy Outback wagon is absolutely the best Subaru
ever, but it's one of a half dozen or so. And the B9 Tribeca is
definitely *not* on that list. It's large, strangely designed, has bad
gas mileage for a Suby, etc.

Who will be driving the car? If mostly your wife, why do you have a
problem getting the car she prefers?


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PETER EBERL

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:56 pm
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My wife does not have a wagon, it's a 4 door sedan with privacy darkened
windows all around and all the bells and whistles you can get, she wants to
keep it and take it everywhere she goes..when we go out, it's in her car...I
now have a 2000 Forester with 35,000 miles on it and I'd be getting the new
Tribeca, which does not at all look like the 2007 version with the ugly
snout-like front. This 2008 looks allmost like a Infinity FX.....hmmmm maybe
I'll get that one instead...LOL...

"PETER EBERL" wrote in message

> I'm going to buy a 2008 Tribeca insted of the Outback Sedan my wife wants
> me to get, she has a 2002 H6 with VDC and has 60,002 miles on it with no
> problems at all, she thinks that I'm a fool to get a SUV instead of what
> she claims is the best Soobie ever...any thoughts out there?--Is she
> correct or am I just being a stubborn SOB?
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 8:56 pm
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In other words, this is a car for you, not for her? I guess I'm a bit
puzzled as to why she's objecting, then. Is it that the Tribeca is more
expensive than the Outback wagon, and you're on a fairly tight budget?
If so, maybe you could look at something else? (NOT the Infinity FX if
that's the issue.) Otherwise, it seems a bit odd that she feels the
right to veto your choice of a car for yourself.

I'd suggest talking this over with her, however, not us. I don't think
that the type of car you want has anything to do with the conflict here....


PETER EBERL wrote:
> My wife does not have a wagon, it's a 4 door sedan with privacy darkened
> windows all around and all the bells and whistles you can get, she wants to
> keep it and take it everywhere she goes..when we go out, it's in her car...I
> now have a 2000 Forester with 35,000 miles on it and I'd be getting the new
> Tribeca, which does not at all look like the 2007 version with the ugly
> snout-like front. This 2008 looks allmost like a Infinity FX.....hmmmm maybe
> I'll get that one instead...LOL...
>
> "PETER EBERL" wrote in message
>
>> I'm going to buy a 2008 Tribeca insted of the Outback Sedan my wife wants
>> me to get, she has a 2002 H6 with VDC and has 60,002 miles on it with no
>> problems at all, she thinks that I'm a fool to get a SUV instead of what
>> she claims is the best Soobie ever...any thoughts out there?--Is she
>> correct or am I just being a stubborn SOB?
>>
>
>


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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:55 am
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"PETER EBERL" wrote in message

> I'm going to buy a 2008 Tribeca insted of the Outback Sedan my wife wants
> me to get, she has a 2002 H6 with VDC and has 60,002 miles on it with no
> problems at all, she thinks that I'm a fool to get a SUV instead of what
> she claims is the best Soobie ever...any thoughts out there?--Is she
> correct or am I just being a stubborn SOB?
>

Tribeca is made in USA and Outback in Japan, so u be the judge Smile
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:06 pm
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Funny, the sticker on my 02 LLBeam Outback says: "Made in Lafayette,
Indiana". I've driven past the plant...its right on I-65 between Indy and
Lafayette. I've lived in Indiana for 60 years...and was a CETA counselor
who sent folks to interview for jobs when Caterpillar, Subaru and others
built plants in that industrial park near Lafayette years ago. Since the
plant was still there a few weeks ago, when did it get moved to Japan? Or
do they import Outbacks from Japan for the west coast dealers?

I'm not sure what other models they build in Indiana...anyone know?

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On 9/12/07 6:07 AM, in article 13efeikguc7pp8c.TakeThisOut@corp.supernews.com, "coaster"
wrote:

>
> "PETER EBERL" wrote in message
>
>> I'm going to buy a 2008 Tribeca insted of the Outback Sedan my wife wants
>> me to get, she has a 2002 H6 with VDC and has 60,002 miles on it with no
>> problems at all, she thinks that I'm a fool to get a SUV instead of what
>> she claims is the best Soobie ever...any thoughts out there?--Is she
>> correct or am I just being a stubborn SOB?
>>
>
> Tribeca is made in USA and Outback in Japan, so u be the judge Smile
>
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:06 pm
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Jack Countryman wrote:
> Funny, the sticker on my 02 LLBeam Outback says: "Made in Lafayette,
> Indiana". I've driven past the plant...its right on I-65 between Indy and
> Lafayette. I've lived in Indiana for 60 years...and was a CETA counselor
> who sent folks to interview for jobs when Caterpillar, Subaru and others
> built plants in that industrial park near Lafayette years ago. Since the
> plant was still there a few weeks ago, when did it get moved to Japan? Or
> do they import Outbacks from Japan for the west coast dealers?
>
> I'm not sure what other models they build in Indiana...anyone know?
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> On 9/12/07 6:07 AM, in article 13efeikguc7pp8c DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com, "coaster"
> wrote:
>
>
>>"PETER EBERL" wrote in message
>>
>>
>>>I'm going to buy a 2008 Tribeca insted of the Outback Sedan my wife wants
>>>me to get, she has a 2002 H6 with VDC and has 60,002 miles on it with no
>>>problems at all, she thinks that I'm a fool to get a SUV instead of what
>>>she claims is the best Soobie ever...any thoughts out there?--Is she
>>>correct or am I just being a stubborn SOB?
>>>
>>
>>Tribeca is made in USA and Outback in Japan, so u be the judge Smile
>>
>>
>
>

Our 03 OBW is from Indiana. The Impreza OBS(Outback Sport) is Japanese.
Maybe Aussies and others get japanese legacy models?

Carl


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:12 pm
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"coaster" writes:

> "PETER EBERL" wrote in message
>
> > I'm going to buy a 2008 Tribeca insted of the Outback Sedan my wife wants
> > me to get, she has a 2002 H6 with VDC and has 60,002 miles on it with no
> > problems at all, she thinks that I'm a fool to get a SUV instead of what
> > she claims is the best Soobie ever...any thoughts out there?--Is she
> > correct or am I just being a stubborn SOB?
> >
>
> Tribeca is made in USA and Outback in Japan, so u be the judge Smile

Unless things have changed (and I don't think they have) Outbacks sold
in the US are not manufactured in Japan.

I too have driven past the plant in Indiana many a time where they are
made, and from which my 01 Outback has its manufacturing sticker.

The 02 Outback Sport (Impreza platform) I purchased was made in
Japan.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 8:26 am
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Todd H. wrote:
> "coaster" writes:
>
>> "PETER EBERL" wrote in message
>>
>>> I'm going to buy a 2008 Tribeca insted of the Outback Sedan my wife wants
>>> me to get, she has a 2002 H6 with VDC and has 60,002 miles on it with no
>>> problems at all, she thinks that I'm a fool to get a SUV instead of what
>>> she claims is the best Soobie ever...any thoughts out there?--Is she
>>> correct or am I just being a stubborn SOB?
>>>
>> Tribeca is made in USA and Outback in Japan, so u be the judge Smile
>
> Unless things have changed (and I don't think they have) Outbacks sold
> in the US are not manufactured in Japan.
>
> I too have driven past the plant in Indiana many a time where they are
> made, and from which my 01 Outback has its manufacturing sticker.
>
> The 02 Outback Sport (Impreza platform) I purchased was made in
> Japan.
>
> --
> Todd H.
> 2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4
> Chicago, Illinois USA
My 08 Outback was made in Indiana.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:55 pm
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"Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message

> Jack Countryman wrote:
>> Funny, the sticker on my 02 LLBeam Outback says: "Made in Lafayette,
>> Indiana". I've driven past the plant...its right on I-65 between Indy and
>> Lafayette. I've lived in Indiana for 60 years...and was a CETA counselor
>> who sent folks to interview for jobs when Caterpillar, Subaru and others
>> built plants in that industrial park near Lafayette years ago. Since the
>> plant was still there a few weeks ago, when did it get moved to Japan?
>> Or
>> do they import Outbacks from Japan for the west coast dealers?
>>
>> I'm not sure what other models they build in Indiana...anyone know?
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> On 9/12/07 6:07 AM, in article 13efeikguc7pp8c.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com,
>> "coaster"
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"PETER EBERL" wrote in message
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm going to buy a 2008 Tribeca insted of the Outback Sedan my wife
>>>>wants
>>>>me to get, she has a 2002 H6 with VDC and has 60,002 miles on it with no
>>>>problems at all, she thinks that I'm a fool to get a SUV instead of what
>>>>she claims is the best Soobie ever...any thoughts out there?--Is she
>>>>correct or am I just being a stubborn SOB?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Tribeca is made in USA and Outback in Japan, so u be the judge Smile
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> Our 03 OBW is from Indiana. The Impreza OBS(Outback Sport) is Japanese.
> Maybe Aussies and others get japanese legacy models?
>

well Outback, Forester and Impreza are special built in JAP for Aussie roads
with beefed up suspensions ... Tribeca is made in US and does not sell very
well in AUS cas it is too flimsy for the local roads
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coaster wrote:
> "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message
>
>> Jack Countryman wrote:
>>> Funny, the sticker on my 02 LLBeam Outback says: "Made in Lafayette,
>>> Indiana". I've driven past the plant...its right on I-65 between Indy and
>>> Lafayette. I've lived in Indiana for 60 years...

Check.

>>> Or do they import Outbacks from Japan for the west coast dealers?

They haven't for the Outback models I've test driven or borrowed from
friends in the last few years. In fact, I think they build all
Legacy-based Outbacks here, even those they sell in Japan and the rest
of Asia.

>>>> "PETER EBERL" wrote in message
>>>>

>>>> Tribeca is made in USA and Outback in Japan, so u be the judge Smile

>> Our 03 OBW is from Indiana. The Impreza OBS(Outback Sport) is Japanese.
>> Maybe Aussies and others get japanese legacy models?

The Outback Sport is indeed made in Japan, or at least was in the 1990s,
as are all Imprezas as far as I know. Does anyone know different?

> well Outback, Forester and Impreza are special built in JAP for Aussie roads
> with beefed up suspensions ... Tribeca is made in US and does not sell very
> well in AUS cas it is too flimsy for the local roads

Are you saying that the Australian models have even more beefed up
suspensions than the models sold in America? I doubt it. My mother
owns an Outback, which I've driven quite a bit, and I own and drive a
Forester. It regularly goes through terrain that is at least the equal
of anything Australia can throw at it -- my husband is an archaeologist,
we live in southern California. Just over labor day weekend we drove
the vehicle up a road that had two landslides and a washout *after* the
generally bad condition it's in. We made it, but I doubt anyone driving
a less capable vehicle would have.


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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:51 pm
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So was my '02, and it is a lot nicer looking than that THING they are calling the Tribeca. YUCK!

"Bob Burns" wrote in message
> Todd H. wrote:
> > "coaster" writes:
> >
> >> "PETER EBERL" wrote in message
> >>
> >>> I'm going to buy a 2008 Tribeca insted of the Outback Sedan my wife wants
> >>> me to get, she has a 2002 H6 with VDC and has 60,002 miles on it with no
> >>> problems at all, she thinks that I'm a fool to get a SUV instead of what
> >>> she claims is the best Soobie ever...any thoughts out there?--Is she
> >>> correct or am I just being a stubborn SOB?
> >>>
> >> Tribeca is made in USA and Outback in Japan, so u be the judge Smile
> >
> > Unless things have changed (and I don't think they have) Outbacks sold
> > in the US are not manufactured in Japan.
> >
> > I too have driven past the plant in Indiana many a time where they are
> > made, and from which my 01 Outback has its manufacturing sticker.
> >
> > The 02 Outback Sport (Impreza platform) I purchased was made in
> > Japan.
> >
> > --
> > Todd H.
> > 2001 Legacy Outback Wagon, 2.5L H-4
> > Chicago, Illinois USA
> My 08 Outback was made in Indiana.
>
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:54 am
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02-04 Outbacks WERE the best subaru ever made. Ergonomics, price,
quality all top notch. Now they lost it. I wont buy another Subaru
until they go back to that Outback formula

On Sep 9, 6:23 pm, Catherine Jefferson
wrote:
> PETER EBERL wrote:
> > I'm going to buy a 2008 Tribeca insted of the Outback Sedan my wife wants me
> > to get, she has a 2002 H6 with VDC and has 60,002 miles on it with no
> > problems at all, she thinks that I'm a fool to get a SUV instead of what she
> > claims is the best Soobie ever...any thoughts out there?--Is she correct or
> > am I just being a stubborn SOB?
>
> I'm not sure the Legacy Outback wagon is absolutely the best Subaru
> ever, but it's one of a half dozen or so. And the B9 Tribeca is
> definitely *not* on that list. It's large, strangely designed, has bad
> gas mileage for a Suby, etc.
>
> Who will be driving the car? If mostly your wife, why do you have a
> problem getting the car she prefers?
>
> --
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On Nov 5, 5:54 am, big... RemoveThis @backpacker.com wrote:
> 02-04 Outbacks WERE the best subaru ever made. Ergonomics, price,
> quality all top notch. Now they lost it. I wont buy another Subaru
> until they go back to that Outback formula
>
> On Sep 9, 6:23 pm, Catherine Jefferson
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > PETER EBERL wrote:
> > > I'm going to buy a 2008 Tribeca insted of the Outback Sedan my wife wants me
> > > to get, she has a 2002 H6 with VDC and has 60,002 miles on it with no
> > > problems at all, she thinks that I'm a fool to get a SUV instead of what she
> > > claims is the best Soobie ever...any thoughts out there?--Is she correct or
> > > am I just being a stubborn SOB?
>
> > I'm not sure the Legacy Outback wagon is absolutely the best Subaru
> > ever, but it's one of a half dozen or so. And the B9 Tribeca is
> > definitely *not* on that list. It's large, strangely designed, has bad
> > gas mileage for a Suby, etc.
>
> > Who will be driving the car? If mostly your wife, why do you have a
> > problem getting the car she prefers?
>
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Whoa backpacker. Careful with the "best evers". What did they lose?
The newer Outback is not only sleeker and much better looking, but
better balanced with more aluminum overhead and at the nose and tail,
not to mention increased ground clearance. Sure, prices edge up and
durability needs to be proven over time, but ergonomics? I'd take the
2005-06 over the 2002-04 any day. Besides, as a best ever Subaru,
I'll take my 2004 WRX wagon. It does more better than any other
vehicle I've ever owned. Fast as a Porsche 944, as much useful cargo
capacity as any SUV I've had (Cherokee, Pathfinder, Blazer), quality
ergonomics with great visibility, logical arrangement of displays and
controls, and terrific seats that even my decrepit vertebrae are
comfortable in (again, I compare to the 944 that a buddy of mine had,
not much to distinguish the two except for the Subie's great traction;
yeah the Porsche did handle a bit better, but a tire upgrade on the
WRX goes a long way toward fixing that). Not saying the WRX is a
better car than the 944, but for the relative $$$ involved, no
question.
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05+ Outbacks lost the raised roof and large foglight styling cues.
The 05+ seats are too soft and dont go back far enough. The armrest
blocks power window switches. The new Subarus are not unique they
are just Jap jellybeans. I dont have much interest in WRX. I'm old
school so any 4 cyl just isnt muscle next to a rumbling V8. To me the
Outback WAS one of the most unique designs EVER to hit America's
roads. I got my 04 for <$20k. Has proven to be 100% reliable. New
subarus are just ugly and offer nothing special. Why did Volvo, Audi,
Etc copy the outback?


> Whoa backpacker. Careful with the "best evers". What did they lose?
> The newer Outback is not only sleeker and much better looking, but
> better balanced with more aluminum overhead and at the nose and tail,
> not to mention increased ground clearance. Sure, prices edge up and
> durability needs to be proven over time, but ergonomics? I'd take the
> 2005-06 over the 2002-04 any day. Besides, as a best ever Subaru,
> I'll take my 2004 WRX wagon. It does more better than any other
> vehicle I've ever owned. Fast as a Porsche 944, as much useful cargo
> capacity as any SUV I've had (Cherokee, Pathfinder, Blazer), quality
> ergonomics with great visibility, logical arrangement of displays and
> controls, and terrific seats that even my decrepit vertebrae are
> comfortable in (again, I compare to the 944 that a buddy of mine had,
> not much to distinguish the two except for the Subie's great traction;
> yeah the Porsche did handle a bit better, but a tire upgrade on the
> WRX goes a long way toward fixing that). Not saying the WRX is a
> better car than the 944, but for the relative $$$ involved, no
> question.- Hide quoted text -
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