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Since: Sep 26, 2007 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:09 pm
Post subject: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 Archived from groups: alt>autos>gm, others (more info?)
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My sister is driving a 90 Bonneville that she claimed was running
roughly. But she wasn't too specific about what it was doing.
So I went out to see what was wrong - the car started up fine, and I
backed out of the driveway, went to put it in drive and it wouldn't move
forward other than to coast downhill. It won't go forward in any gear.
SO I had to back it back into the driveway.
I got it up on jackstands, and the left front wheel will turn when put
into drive or other forward gears, but the right wheel won't.
So I was wondering if anyone has any idea about what that might be?
Differential that needs to be serviced out of the car, or something
simple that could be fixed by dropping the pan or making some other
adjustment? >> Stay informed about: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 |
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Since: Jan 19, 2008 Posts: 23
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:09 pm
Post subject: Re: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>autos>gm, others (more info?)
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On Jan 30, 9:09 am, UseNet Reader <usenet247rea... RemoveThis @earthlink.net>
wrote:
> My sister is driving a 90 Bonneville that she claimed was running
> roughly. But she wasn't too specific about what it was doing.
>
> So I went out to see what was wrong - the car started up fine, and I
> backed out of the driveway, went to put it in drive and it wouldn't move
> forward other than to coast downhill. It won't go forward in any gear.
> SO I had to back it back into the driveway.
>
> I got it up on jackstands, and the left front wheel will turn when put
> into drive or other forward gears, but the right wheel won't.
>
> So I was wondering if anyone has any idea about what that might be?
> Differential that needs to be serviced out of the car, or something
> simple that could be fixed by dropping the pan or making some other
> adjustment?
More than likely the left front wheel is just turning due to lack of
rotational resistance. It is probably going to be a bit more severe
than you think. First of all, is it low on fluid? What condition is
the fluid in, is it burn't smelling or discolored, if so, the damage
is probably done. You can pull the pan and check for debris(metal,
clutch material), just to confirm a problem. You did not state how
many miles are on it. >> Stay informed about: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 |
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Since: Dec 04, 2007 Posts: 43
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:52 am
Post subject: Re: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>autos>gm, others (more info?)
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Sounds like the axle popped out of the trans differential side gears,
or maybe a broken axle shaft.
Hope this helps.
RK
"UseNet Reader" <usenet247reader.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> My sister is driving a 90 Bonneville that she claimed was running
> roughly. But she wasn't too specific about what it was doing.
>
> So I went out to see what was wrong - the car started up fine, and I
> backed out of the driveway, went to put it in drive and it wouldn't move
> forward other than to coast downhill. It won't go forward in any gear.
> SO I had to back it back into the driveway.
>
> I got it up on jackstands, and the left front wheel will turn when put
> into drive or other forward gears, but the right wheel won't.
>
> So I was wondering if anyone has any idea about what that might be?
> Differential that needs to be serviced out of the car, or something
> simple that could be fixed by dropping the pan or making some other
> adjustment? >> Stay informed about: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 |
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Since: Oct 26, 2005 Posts: 669
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:47 am
Post subject: Re: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"Refinish King" <diagnosticman DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Sounds like the axle popped out of the trans differential side gears,
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> or maybe a broken axle shaft.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
That greatly depends on what the OP meant in his description. It is normal
for only one wheel to turn when the drive wheels are lifted off the ground.
He does not state if he tried to block that wheel and if the other wheel
then began to turn. From his description, I would not suspect a broken
axle. I'd suspect tranny problems.
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mmarlowREMOVE DeleteThis @alltel.net >> Stay informed about: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 |
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Since: Sep 26, 2007 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:12 pm
Post subject: Re: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I doubt it is either one of these - since the car backs up just fine. If
I was able to get away with it, I could drive the car in reverse for
miles and miles.
Refinish King wrote:
> Sounds like the axle popped out of the trans differential side gears,
>
> or maybe a broken axle shaft.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> RK
> "UseNet Reader" <usenet247reader.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:13q1bqicp6g8fe9@corp.supernews.com...
>> My sister is driving a 90 Bonneville that she claimed was running
>> roughly. But she wasn't too specific about what it was doing.
>>
>> So I went out to see what was wrong - the car started up fine, and I
>> backed out of the driveway, went to put it in drive and it wouldn't move
>> forward other than to coast downhill. It won't go forward in any gear.
>> SO I had to back it back into the driveway.
>>
>> I got it up on jackstands, and the left front wheel will turn when put
>> into drive or other forward gears, but the right wheel won't.
>>
>> So I was wondering if anyone has any idea about what that might be?
>> Differential that needs to be serviced out of the car, or something
>> simple that could be fixed by dropping the pan or making some other
>> adjustment?
> >> Stay informed about: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 |
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Since: Sep 26, 2007 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:15 pm
Post subject: Re: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Certainly wrote:
> On Jan 30, 9:09 am, UseNet Reader <usenet247rea....RemoveThis@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>> My sister is driving a 90 Bonneville that she claimed was running
>> roughly. But she wasn't too specific about what it was doing.
>>
>> So I went out to see what was wrong - the car started up fine, and I
>> backed out of the driveway, went to put it in drive and it wouldn't move
>> forward other than to coast downhill. It won't go forward in any gear.
>> SO I had to back it back into the driveway.
>>
>> I got it up on jackstands, and the left front wheel will turn when put
>> into drive or other forward gears, but the right wheel won't.
>>
>> So I was wondering if anyone has any idea about what that might be?
>> Differential that needs to be serviced out of the car, or something
>> simple that could be fixed by dropping the pan or making some other
>> adjustment?
>
> More than likely the left front wheel is just turning due to lack of
> rotational resistance. It is probably going to be a bit more severe
> than you think. First of all, is it low on fluid? What condition is
> the fluid in, is it burn't smelling or discolored, if so, the damage
> is probably done. You can pull the pan and check for debris(metal,
> clutch material), just to confirm a problem. You did not state how
> many miles are on it.
Car is not low on fluid, and it is not burnt. The car was not used
heavily for years, and has less than 100K miles on it.
While in Drive and up on jack stands, the left wheel turns fine, and the
right doesn't turn at all.
But on the ground, the car will move fine under its own power in
REVERSE, but it will not move forward in DRIVE or any other forward gear. >> Stay informed about: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 |
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Since: Apr 03, 2005 Posts: 29
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:03 pm
Post subject: Re: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In article <47AB82F0.1000902.RemoveThis@earthlink.net>,
usenet247reader.RemoveThis@earthlink.net says...
> While in Drive and up on jack stands, the left wheel turns fine, and the
> right doesn't turn at all.
>
Do you understand differentials?
Power goes to the wheel with the least resistance.
Do you know that much? >> Stay informed about: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 |
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Since: Sep 26, 2007 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:52 pm
Post subject: Re: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I do know what a differential is.
Do you understand that if the car will back up in reverse, but not go
forward in drive, it's likely not the differential?
Bon·ne·ville wrote:
> In article <47AB82F0.1000902 RemoveThis @earthlink.net>,
> usenet247reader RemoveThis @earthlink.net says...
>> While in Drive and up on jack stands, the left wheel turns fine, and the
>> right doesn't turn at all.
>>
>
> Do you understand differentials?
> Power goes to the wheel with the least resistance.
> Do you know that much? >> Stay informed about: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 |
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Since: Sep 26, 2007 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:54 pm
Post subject: Re: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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It doesn't help - the car will go into reverse and both wheels will
move, and the car will move backwards in reverse gear.
Did anyone read the whole posting - the car started up find and I backed
it out of the driveway. It goes in reverse just fine.
It just won't move forward in drive.
Do you get it - the problem is only trying to move forward.
Refinish King wrote:
> Sounds like the axle popped out of the trans differential side gears,
>
> or maybe a broken axle shaft.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> RK
> "UseNet Reader" <usenet247reader RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:13q1bqicp6g8fe9@corp.supernews.com...
>> My sister is driving a 90 Bonneville that she claimed was running
>> roughly. But she wasn't too specific about what it was doing.
>>
>> So I went out to see what was wrong - the car started up fine, and I
>> backed out of the driveway, went to put it in drive and it wouldn't move
>> forward other than to coast downhill. It won't go forward in any gear.
>> SO I had to back it back into the driveway.
>>
>> I got it up on jackstands, and the left front wheel will turn when put
>> into drive or other forward gears, but the right wheel won't.
>>
>> So I was wondering if anyone has any idea about what that might be?
>> Differential that needs to be serviced out of the car, or something
>> simple that could be fixed by dropping the pan or making some other
>> adjustment?
> >> Stay informed about: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 |
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Since: Oct 26, 2005 Posts: 669
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:03 pm
Post subject: Re: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"UseNet Reader" <usenet247reader.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>I do know what a differential is.
>
> Do you understand that if the car will back up in reverse, but not go
> forward in drive, it's likely not the differential?
>
>
That is pretty much what Bon-ne-ville was saying.
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mmarlowREMOVE.RemoveThis@alltel.net
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> Bon·ne·ville wrote:
>> In article <47AB82F0.1000902.RemoveThis@earthlink.net>,
>> usenet247reader.RemoveThis@earthlink.net says...
>>> While in Drive and up on jack stands, the left wheel turns fine, and the
>>> right doesn't turn at all.
>>>
>>
>> Do you understand differentials? Power goes to the wheel with the least
>> resistance.
>> Do you know that much? >> Stay informed about: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 |
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Since: Oct 26, 2005 Posts: 669
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:05 pm
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"UseNet Reader" <usenet247reader DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> It doesn't help - the car will go into reverse and both wheels will
> move, and the car will move backwards in reverse gear.
>
> Did anyone read the whole posting - the car started up find and I backed
> it out of the driveway. It goes in reverse just fine.
>
> It just won't move forward in drive.
>
> Do you get it - the problem is only trying to move forward.
>
You've gotten other advise to have the tranny checked. Some of us have told
you that it does not at all sound like an axle, or a differential problem,
but a tranny problem. Do you get it - have your tranny checked.
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mmarlowREMOVE DeleteThis @alltel.net >> Stay informed about: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 |
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Since: Jan 01, 2005 Posts: 1154
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:38 am
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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE DeleteThis @alltel.net> wrote in message
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> "UseNet Reader" <usenet247reader DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:13rs07qcr646b72@corp.supernews.com...
>> It doesn't help - the car will go into reverse and both wheels will
>> move, and the car will move backwards in reverse gear.
>>
>> Did anyone read the whole posting - the car started up find and I backed
>> it out of the driveway. It goes in reverse just fine.
>>
>> It just won't move forward in drive.
>>
>> Do you get it - the problem is only trying to move forward.
>>
>
> You've gotten other advise to have the tranny checked. Some of us have
> told you that it does not at all sound like an axle, or a differential
> problem, but a tranny problem. Do you get it - have your tranny checked.
>
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> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE DeleteThis @alltel.net
Maybe only half (the front half) of the differential is shot because it
backs up OK. >> Stay informed about: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 |
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Since: Oct 26, 2005 Posts: 669
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:52 pm
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp RemoveThis @snet.net> wrote in message
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> Maybe only half (the front half) of the differential is shot because it
> backs up OK.
>
Yeah - I never thought of that...
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Since: Sep 26, 2007 Posts: 13
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:25 am
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No Bonneville was claiming that the differential was the problem, one
wheel would spin and the other would not. BOth wheels turn when the car
is in reverse and only one turns when the car is in ANY forward gear.
Bonneville didn't read the whole posting and was trying to diagnose only
the issue of one wheel turning while the car was up in the air - not the
fact that the car would move in reverse but not in a forward gear.
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "UseNet Reader" <usenet247reader.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:13rs02t15nl51eb@corp.supernews.com...
>> I do know what a differential is.
>>
>> Do you understand that if the car will back up in reverse, but not go
>> forward in drive, it's likely not the differential?
>>
>>
>
> That is pretty much what Bon-ne-ville was saying.
>
> >
> > Bon·ne·ville wrote:
>> >> In article <47AB82F0.1000902.DeleteThis@earthlink.net>,
>> >> usenet247reader.DeleteThis@earthlink.net says...
>>> >>> While in Drive and up on jack stands, the left wheel turns
fine, and the
>>> >>> right doesn't turn at all.
>>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Do you understand differentials? Power goes to the wheel with the
least
>> >> resistance.
>> >> Do you know that much? >> Stay informed about: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:07 am
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I have a 1989 Olds Delta 88 Royale that my sister is driving.
She came home telling me that the turn signals don't work. I went out
to see for myself, and sure enough, they don't work. Not only do they
not flash, but they don't even just come on and stay on without flashing.
But the emergency flashers work just fine.
Could it be a fuse, or flasher or the relay? >> Stay informed about: tranny problem with 90 Bonneville with 3800 V-6 |
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