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JM

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:13 pm
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I just put winter tires and steel rims on my 2001 Accord coupe. I've
noticed the car seems to want to pull to the right now, and didn't before.
The tires were on a different car last winter, is it possible the camber/toe
was different enough on the old car that it's causing this one to track to
the right? If that's the case, it should eventually even out as the tires
wear to match this car's setup, right?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:27 pm
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JM wrote:
> I just put winter tires and steel rims on my 2001 Accord coupe. I've
> noticed the car seems to want to pull to the right now, and didn't before.
> The tires were on a different car last winter, is it possible the camber/toe
> was different enough on the old car that it's causing this one to track to
> the right? If that's the case, it should eventually even out as the tires
> wear to match this car's setup, right?
>
>
no. get the alignment checked by someone that knows what they're doing.
that's not as common as you may suppose. if it still pulls, rotate
the tires. if that affects it, keep rotating until you find a combo
that works. or replace them.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:51 pm
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"JM" <jmsn.RemoveThis@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in
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> I just put winter tires and steel rims on my 2001 Accord coupe. I've
> noticed the car seems to want to pull to the right now, and didn't
> before. The tires were on a different car last winter, is it possible
> the camber/toe was different enough on the old car that it's causing
> this one to track to the right? If that's the case, it should
> eventually even out as the tires wear to match this car's setup,
> right?
>
>
>

try swapping the tires to the opposite side,see what happens.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:16 pm
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Jim Yanik <jyanik RemoveThis @abuse.gov> wrote in news:Xns99FAAB7912CBDjyanikkuanet@
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> "JM" <jmsn RemoveThis @ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in
> news:47532008$0$5277$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net:
>
>> I just put winter tires and steel rims on my 2001 Accord coupe. I've
>> noticed the car seems to want to pull to the right now, and didn't
>> before. The tires were on a different car last winter, is it possible
>> the camber/toe was different enough on the old car that it's causing
>> this one to track to the right? If that's the case, it should
>> eventually even out as the tires wear to match this car's setup,
>> right?
>>
>>
>>
>
> try swapping the tires to the opposite side,see what happens.
>



Ditto.


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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 10:16 pm
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Well they are a directional tire, so if that solves the problem should I
have them both remounted the other way around? Or would that just mean that
it's a tire wear thing that will eventually go away?

"Tegger" <tegger DeleteThis @tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> Jim Yanik <jyanik DeleteThis @abuse.gov> wrote in news:Xns99FAAB7912CBDjyanikkuanet@
> 64.209.0.86:
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>> "JM" <jmsn DeleteThis @ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in
>> news:47532008$0$5277$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net:
>>
>>> I just put winter tires and steel rims on my 2001 Accord coupe. I've
>>> noticed the car seems to want to pull to the right now, and didn't
>>> before. The tires were on a different car last winter, is it possible
>>> the camber/toe was different enough on the old car that it's causing
>>> this one to track to the right? If that's the case, it should
>>> eventually even out as the tires wear to match this car's setup,
>>> right?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> try swapping the tires to the opposite side,see what happens.
>>
>
>
>
> Ditto.
>
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:53 am
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JM wrote:
> Well they are a directional tire, so if that solves the problem should I
> have them both remounted the other way around? Or would that just mean that
> it's a tire wear thing that will eventually go away?

In that case, try swapping them front-back. If the alignment was off
only front or rear on the original car, only one set should be worn, and
at the very least, it should CHANGE the degree to which it affects your
steering now.


> "Tegger" <tegger.RemoveThis@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns99FAAE018C62Btegger@207.14.116.130...
>> Jim Yanik <jyanik.RemoveThis@abuse.gov> wrote in news:Xns99FAAB7912CBDjyanikkuanet@
>> 64.209.0.86:
>>
>>> "JM" <jmsn.RemoveThis@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in
>>> news:47532008$0$5277$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net:
>>>
>>>> I just put winter tires and steel rims on my 2001 Accord coupe. I've
>>>> noticed the car seems to want to pull to the right now, and didn't
>>>> before. The tires were on a different car last winter, is it possible
>>>> the camber/toe was different enough on the old car that it's causing
>>>> this one to track to the right? If that's the case, it should
>>>> eventually even out as the tires wear to match this car's setup,
>>>> right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> try swapping the tires to the opposite side,see what happens.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Ditto.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
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>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:11 am
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"JM" <jmsn.TakeThisOut@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in
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<inappropriate top-posting corrected>


>
> "Tegger" <tegger.TakeThisOut@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns99FAAE018C62Btegger@207.14.116.130...
>> Jim Yanik <jyanik.TakeThisOut@abuse.gov> wrote in
>> news:Xns99FAAB7912CBDjyanikkuanet@ 64.209.0.86:
>>
>>> "JM" <jmsn.TakeThisOut@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in
>>> news:47532008$0$5277$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net:
>>>
>>>> I just put winter tires and steel rims on my 2001 Accord coupe.
>>>> I've noticed the car seems to want to pull to the right now, and
>>>> didn't before. The tires were on a different car last winter, is it
>>>> possible the camber/toe was different enough on the old car that
>>>> it's causing this one to track to the right? If that's the case,
>>>> it should eventually even out as the tires wear to match this car's
>>>> setup, right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> try swapping the tires to the opposite side,see what happens.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ditto.
>>
>>
>
>
> Well they are a directional tire, so if that solves the problem should
> I have them both remounted the other way around? Or would that just
> mean that it's a tire wear thing that will eventually go away?



Directional doesn't matter. Swap them left to right anyway for testing,
but be careful on wet roads.

This sort of problem does not just "go away".


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 4:01 am
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Jim Yanik wrote:
> "JM" <jmsn DeleteThis @ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in
> news:47532008$0$5277$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net:
>
>
>>I just put winter tires and steel rims on my 2001 Accord coupe. I've
>>noticed the car seems to want to pull to the right now, and didn't
>>before. The tires were on a different car last winter, is it possible
>>the camber/toe was different enough on the old car that it's causing
>>this one to track to the right? If that's the case, it should
>>eventually even out as the tires wear to match this car's setup,
>>right?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> try swapping the tires to the opposite side,see what happens.
>
Hi,
Providing they are not directional.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:23 am
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Tegger wrote:
<inappropriate top-posting added, just to be a git>

Of course, you could always take your car by a tire shop and have them
give the tires a look - most should do it for free, and they'll know at
a glance if there are any strange wear patterns. If the tires are good,
you'll probably need to have the alignment done, and most larger tire
shops can do this as well.


> "JM" <jmsn DeleteThis @ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in
> news:47534064$0$5258$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net:
>
>
>
> <inappropriate top-posting corrected>
>
>
>> "Tegger" <tegger DeleteThis @tegger.c0m> wrote in message
>> news:Xns99FAAE018C62Btegger@207.14.116.130...
>>> Jim Yanik <jyanik DeleteThis @abuse.gov> wrote in
>>> news:Xns99FAAB7912CBDjyanikkuanet@ 64.209.0.86:
>>>
>>>> "JM" <jmsn DeleteThis @ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in
>>>> news:47532008$0$5277$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net:
>>>>
>>>>> I just put winter tires and steel rims on my 2001 Accord coupe.
>>>>> I've noticed the car seems to want to pull to the right now, and
>>>>> didn't before. The tires were on a different car last winter, is it
>>>>> possible the camber/toe was different enough on the old car that
>>>>> it's causing this one to track to the right? If that's the case,
>>>>> it should eventually even out as the tires wear to match this car's
>>>>> setup, right?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> try swapping the tires to the opposite side,see what happens.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ditto.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well they are a directional tire, so if that solves the problem should
>> I have them both remounted the other way around? Or would that just
>> mean that it's a tire wear thing that will eventually go away?
>
>
>
> Directional doesn't matter. Swap them left to right anyway for testing,
> but be careful on wet roads.
>
> This sort of problem does not just "go away".
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 5:35 pm
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"JM" <jmsn.DeleteThis@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in
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> Well they are a directional tire, so if that solves the problem should
> I have them both remounted the other way around? Or would that just
> mean that it's a tire wear thing that will eventually go away?
>
> "Tegger" <tegger.DeleteThis@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns99FAAE018C62Btegger@207.14.116.130...
>> Jim Yanik <jyanik.DeleteThis@abuse.gov> wrote in
>> news:Xns99FAAB7912CBDjyanikkuanet@ 64.209.0.86:
>>
>>> "JM" <jmsn.DeleteThis@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in
>>> news:47532008$0$5277$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net:
>>>
>>>> I just put winter tires and steel rims on my 2001 Accord coupe.
>>>> I've noticed the car seems to want to pull to the right now, and
>>>> didn't before. The tires were on a different car last winter, is it
>>>> possible the camber/toe was different enough on the old car that
>>>> it's causing this one to track to the right? If that's the case,
>>>> it should eventually even out as the tires wear to match this car's
>>>> setup, right?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> try swapping the tires to the opposite side,see what happens.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ditto.
>>
>>
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>>
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>

a directional WINTER tire? I didn't know there was such an animal.

why would a winter tire need to be directional? What benefit?
It doesn't make sense.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 6:16 pm
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Jim Yanik wrote:

> a directional WINTER tire? I didn't know there was such an animal.

http://www.toyocanada.com/products/ObserveG02plus.asp

OBSERVE G-02 plus - Ultimate Traction Winter Radial for passenegr vehicles

> why would a winter tire need to be directional? What benefit?
> It doesn't make sense.

* Designed with an aggressive unidirectional tread pattern for
superior performance in extreme snow and ice conditions, the Toyo
OBSERVE G-02 plus winter tire technology was specifically built to
handle Canada's most brutal winters.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:07 pm
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Thanks for the replies.. I did, now that I think about it, have 2 tie rods
replaced on the previous car, so it's possible the alignment was off while
these tires were mounted. I'll see about taking the Accord somewhere to get
the alignment checked or at least try swapping the wheels around. I'd hate
to have to replace them; they're still in good shape with lots of tread and
they're great in the snow.

They are a directional winter tire, they're Nokian Hakkapeliitta RSi's:

www.canadiandriver.com/winter/tires/hakka_rsi.htm
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:53 pm
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Matt Ion <soundy106.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in
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> Jim Yanik wrote:
>
>> a directional WINTER tire? I didn't know there was such an animal.
>
> http://www.toyocanada.com/products/ObserveG02plus.asp
>
> OBSERVE G-02 plus - Ultimate Traction Winter Radial for passenegr
> vehicles
>
>> why would a winter tire need to be directional? What benefit?
>> It doesn't make sense.
>
> * Designed with an aggressive unidirectional tread pattern for
> superior performance in extreme snow and ice conditions, the Toyo
> OBSERVE G-02 plus winter tire technology was specifically built to
> handle Canada's most brutal winters.
>

that's not much of a "directional" tread pattern.
Barely "directional".



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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:59 am
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"JM" <jmsn.TakeThisOut@ns.sympatico.ca.ns> wrote in
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> Thanks for the replies.. I did, now that I think about it, have 2 tie
> rods replaced on the previous car, so it's possible the alignment was
> off while these tires were mounted. I'll see about taking the Accord
> somewhere to get the alignment checked or at least try swapping the
> wheels around. I'd hate to have to replace them; they're still in
> good shape with lots of tread and they're great in the snow.
>
> They are a directional winter tire, they're Nokian Hakkapeliitta
> RSi's:
>
> www.canadiandriver.com/winter/tires/hakka_rsi.htm
>
>
>

I'm glad I'm in FLORIDA. B-)
I wore shorts today,BTW,rode my bicycle,a nice day.
a cold front coming in,I'll have to close the patio door.

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:01 pm
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"Jim Yanik" <jyanik DeleteThis @abuse.gov> wrote in message
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> I'm glad I'm in FLORIDA. B-)
> I wore shorts today,BTW,rode my bicycle,a nice day.
> a cold front coming in,I'll have to close the patio door.

Heh heh, rub it in why dontcha?? You don't know what you're missing..
snowbanks you can't see over when pulling out into traffic, 2" of ice on the
car in the morning, having to walk to school barefoot in 2 ft of snow,
uphill... oh wait, that's another story...
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