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Elle

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(Msg. 31) Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:36 pm
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"Tegger" <tegger.DeleteThis@tegger.c0m> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness.DeleteThis@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> Indeed, the local U-Pull-It in my former neck of the
>> woods
>> has been a blast. I haven't had to rely on it for
>> critical
>> repairs so far, but maybe this is because I have stayed
>> on
>> top of things, for the most part. I do get to do a little
>> "investigatory work" there, when I am not sure how to get
>> something off my own car. IOW, the stripped down cars are
>> a
>> great education. (I am one fun date?)
>>
>>
>
>
>
> I have a fantastic U-Pull type yard only a few miles from
> me. Lots of older
> Integras, Accords and Civics in various states of
> disassembly. And like you
> say, a great education in how stuff goes on and comes off.
>
> And some of those crashed cars...Really sobering. The
> worst are those with
> blood on the seats and no more driver's footwell left...

Ha... when I took a vocational manual transmission course a
few years ago, some of the young fellows and I had a mean
chuckle about coming upon cars like this.

My (forme) local U-Pull-It is amazingly well-organized. One
checks in, paying a buck, and a clerk will print out were
all the cars of a certain year, model, and make are parked.
They change the stock about every three months.

> The only problem for me is that most of my parts are in
> better shape than
> the ones on the wrecks, so I usually end up buying new
> anyway...

I know what you mean. Still.

> When the snow melts and the mud dries up, I should take
> some pics of this
> place.

I am hoping I can find another such yard in my new location.
Still out West, but way more city driving. My miles/gallon
has shot down to 35-38-ish.

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(Msg. 32) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:02 am
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Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy.TakeThisOut@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
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>
>
> Tegger wrote:
>
>> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy.TakeThisOut@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
>> news:1xm8j.255497$kj1.39969@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Tegger wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Even when one does not drive a great deal, the longer you keep your
>>>vehicle the farther ahead of the curve you are. Most manufacturers
>>>don't even expect the average car to last ten years. You can figure
>>>on a 10% attrition rate yearly and by the time ten years comes along,
>>>way less than 50% of that year's model have bit the dust.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It's interesting that Honda will continue to make and stock parts as
>> long as there is demand. My local parts guy tells me he still orders
>> parts for Acuras from the '80s.
>>
>> A few parts for my car are now discontinued, but most everything I'd
>> normally need to replace is still in stock.
>>
>
> Yes, Honda almost appears alone in that regard. I can still order
> most parts for the Gen 2 Civics although much better bargains can be
> had on eBay for closeouts etc.
>
>
>
>>>The sheeple, most of whom subscribe to "Keepin' up with the Smiths,"
>>>play an important role in the economy. Oddballs such as you and
>>>me/Elle etc. reap the benefits of other people's investments, er,
>>>spending.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I just like the old girl. I like knowing the car's history, and
>> planning new projects for her. In the spring it's timing belt time
>> again. :^)
>>
>> Plus, to me anyway, there's a certain coolness that derives from
>> /not/ following the herd.
>>
>
> Knowing what you have is half the battle. The other half is not having
> a burning desire to keep up with style.
>
>
>
>>>Maybe you should spring for a rattle can paint job on the old gal's
>>>300K anniversary...
>>>
>>><G>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> And cover up all that original paint? No way José.
>>
>> I did just spend $500 having the hood professionally repainted last
>> year. I need to have it done every five years or so on account of
>> stone chips.
>>
>>
>

but when the interior and trim(plastics) begins degrading,and the car has a
million rattles and squeaks,then it's nice to get a new car.
you folks up North don't have the intense sun degradation we have in the
southern US.
OTOH,you have salted roads in the winter....
(although living near the seacoast also corrodes autos.)

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(Msg. 33) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:06 am
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Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy DeleteThis @ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
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>
>
> dgk wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:13:01 GMT, Grumpy AuContraire
>> <Grumpy DeleteThis @ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Maybe you should spring for a rattle can paint job on the old gal's
>>>300K anniversary...
>>>
>>><G>
>>>
>>>JT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Can I just do that? My 91's roof does lack something in shinyness
>> and, well, consistency. I thought about having a paint job done but
>> it's expensive and if I were going to spend that amount ($700 or so I
>> think) I'd rather look into having the shocks done. But spray paint,
>> that I can handle.
>>
>> Now that I think about it, there is some sort of paint sprayer in the
>> garage. I'll have to open the box and see what it is.
>
>
> Just go down to Harbor Freight for the gun/compressor and eBay for
> cheap single stage paint.
>
> JT
>
>

there's always Earl Schieib(sp?) and similar places.

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(Msg. 34) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:37 am
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Jim Yanik <jyanik.RemoveThis@abuse.gov> wrote in
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> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy.RemoveThis@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
> news:R_y8j.46388$MJ6.28473@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>>
>>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>
>>> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy.RemoveThis@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
>>> news:1xm8j.255497$kj1.39969@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Tegger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Even when one does not drive a great deal, the longer you keep your
>>>>vehicle the farther ahead of the curve you are. Most manufacturers
>>>>don't even expect the average car to last ten years. You can figure
>>>>on a 10% attrition rate yearly and by the time ten years comes
>>>>along, way less than 50% of that year's model have bit the dust.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's interesting that Honda will continue to make and stock parts as
>>> long as there is demand. My local parts guy tells me he still orders
>>> parts for Acuras from the '80s.
>>>
>>> A few parts for my car are now discontinued, but most everything I'd
>>> normally need to replace is still in stock.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, Honda almost appears alone in that regard. I can still order
>> most parts for the Gen 2 Civics although much better bargains can be
>> had on eBay for closeouts etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>The sheeple, most of whom subscribe to "Keepin' up with the Smiths,"
>>>>play an important role in the economy. Oddballs such as you and
>>>>me/Elle etc. reap the benefits of other people's investments, er,
>>>>spending.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I just like the old girl. I like knowing the car's history, and
>>> planning new projects for her. In the spring it's timing belt time
>>> again. :^)
>>>
>>> Plus, to me anyway, there's a certain coolness that derives from
>>> /not/ following the herd.
>>>
>>
>> Knowing what you have is half the battle. The other half is not
>> having a burning desire to keep up with style.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>Maybe you should spring for a rattle can paint job on the old gal's
>>>>300K anniversary...
>>>>
>>>><G>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And cover up all that original paint? No way José.
>>>
>>> I did just spend $500 having the hood professionally repainted last
>>> year. I need to have it done every five years or so on account of
>>> stone chips.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> but when the interior and trim(plastics) begins degrading,



Cold weather does have its advantages. Interior is perfect outside of
sun fading and localized salt deposits in the carpets.




> and the car has a million rattles and squeaks,



My own ears are very poor and unreliable. One of them does not work, the
other has a hearing aid stuck in it. For these reasons I cannot tell
what rattles/squeaks my car has or where they come from if present.

My wife, whose hearing is thankfully impeccable, tells me my car has no
rattles or squeaks of any kind, which I find kind of astonishing. There
is plenty of mechanical noise, but no rattles or squeaks. Well, there is
just one sort of a sizzle noise that occasionally comes from the
driver's seat belt upper mount, but that goes away if you put the belt
on or push on the rear quarter trim with your hand.



> then it's nice to get a new car.


New car:
Air bags galore
Side air bag OPDS
OBD-II
Intrusive EVAP system
P0420
Two oxygen sensors
Everything electronic
Even more plastic than I've got.

Old car:
You need to ask?

No thanks. I'll just live with the old-car foibles. Yes, old cars can be
annoying, but new cars contain a fright factor I don't care to get
involved with just now.

Treat the old girl like the old girl she is and you'll be fine. I can't
afford to peel rubber at every stoplight like I used to any more, but
then again I'm not 29 years old any more either...



> you folks up North don't have the intense sun degradation we have in
> the southern US.
> OTOH,you have salted roads in the winter....



Salted roads are worse than a crumbly, sagging headliner and cracked
dash. Believe me.


> (although living near the seacoast also corrodes autos.)
>


I have a pic somewhere I took two summers ago of a chain link fence at
Redondo Beach. The side facing the ocean is corroded to holes. The other
side still has the zinc coating on it. Amazing.


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(Msg. 35) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:37 am
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Jim Yanik <jyanik RemoveThis @abuse.gov> wrote in
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> I can't imagine that long a line for Canadians to become legit US
> citizens or get green cards.



That's because there's lttle difference between Canada and the US. Not like
the difference between the Estados Unidos and Meh-ee-co.



> Seems like a lot of Canuck actors & actresses manage it. Cool
>


Canada: Hollywood's minor leagues.

Somebody fairly knowledgeable once told me Hollywood is half Canadian and
half Jewish.


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(Msg. 36) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:37 am
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Jim Yanik <jyanik.DeleteThis@abuse.gov> wrote in news:Xns9A06CC8782087jyanikkuanet@
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>
> there's always Earl Schieib(sp?) and similar places.
>



Scheib.

We have them up here too, and they're as shitty as yours.

I swear they use Crayola watercolor paints.


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(Msg. 37) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:37 am
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Tegger <tegger.DeleteThis@tegger.c0m> wrote in
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> Jim Yanik <jyanik.DeleteThis@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns9A06CC348503Ejyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85:
>
>
>> I can't imagine that long a line for Canadians to become legit US
>> citizens or get green cards.
>
>
>
> That's because there's lttle difference between Canada and the US. Not
> like the difference between the Estados Unidos and Meh-ee-co.
>
>
>
>> Seems like a lot of Canuck actors & actresses manage it. Cool
>>
>
>
> Canada: Hollywood's minor leagues.
>
> Somebody fairly knowledgeable once told me Hollywood is half Canadian
> and half Jewish.
>
>

I'm still undecided whether Pam Anderson's coming to the US was a plus or
minus....

I still get a laugh from the "McKenzie Brothers",eh? Cool

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(Msg. 38) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:37 am
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:20:06 -0500, "C. E. White"
<cewhite3 RemoveThis @mindspring.com> wrote:

>
>"dgk" <dgk RemoveThis @somewhere.com> wrote in message
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>> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006 (US) is the 1995
>> Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have. Oh joy.
>>
>> http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/wednesday/longi...nd/ny-l
>
>You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of thieves that are
>stealing 13 and 17 year old cars. I suppose this has more to do with the
>difficulty of stealing newer cars than the "goodness" of old Hondas. What
>does one do with a stolen 1991 Accord? I know Honda parts are outrageously
>expensive, but surely the demand for used 17 year old Honda parts must be
>pretty low.

Few years back had my OEM radio stolen. Had to have a resale value of
$5. Broke a window to get it, cost me $50 to replace. Dumbshit
economics. Never did replace the radio before I sold the car.

J.
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:11 am
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Yep, that car is worth more in pieces now, than as a driver.

dgk wrote:

> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006 (US) is the 1995
> Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have. Oh joy.
>
> http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/wednesday/longi...nd/ny-l

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(Msg. 40) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:27 pm
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Tegger wrote:
> "Elle" <honda.lioness DeleteThis @nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in news:13m5qevct030he5
> @corp.supernews.com:
>
>
>
>>Indeed, the local U-Pull-It in my former neck of the woods
>>has been a blast. I haven't had to rely on it for critical
>>repairs so far, but maybe this is because I have stayed on
>>top of things, for the most part. I do get to do a little
>>"investigatory work" there, when I am not sure how to get
>>something off my own car. IOW, the stripped down cars are a
>>great education. (I am one fun date?)
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
> I have a fantastic U-Pull type yard only a few miles from me. Lots of older
> Integras, Accords and Civics in various states of disassembly. And like you
> say, a great education in how stuff goes on and comes off.
>
> And some of those crashed cars...Really sobering. The worst are those with
> blood on the seats and no more driver's footwell left...
>
> The only problem for me is that most of my parts are in better shape than
> the ones on the wrecks, so I usually end up buying new anyway...
>
> When the snow melts and the mud dries up, I should take some pics of this
> place.
>
>


Let me know if you ever come across an EN1 1300 engine with accessories...

JT
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:29 pm
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Jim Yanik wrote:

> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy.TakeThisOut@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
> news:R_y8j.46388$MJ6.28473@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
>>
>>Tegger wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy.TakeThisOut@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
>>>news:1xm8j.255497$kj1.39969@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Tegger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Even when one does not drive a great deal, the longer you keep your
>>>>vehicle the farther ahead of the curve you are. Most manufacturers
>>>>don't even expect the average car to last ten years. You can figure
>>>>on a 10% attrition rate yearly and by the time ten years comes along,
>>>>way less than 50% of that year's model have bit the dust.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>It's interesting that Honda will continue to make and stock parts as
>>>long as there is demand. My local parts guy tells me he still orders
>>>parts for Acuras from the '80s.
>>>
>>>A few parts for my car are now discontinued, but most everything I'd
>>>normally need to replace is still in stock.
>>>
>>
>>Yes, Honda almost appears alone in that regard. I can still order
>>most parts for the Gen 2 Civics although much better bargains can be
>>had on eBay for closeouts etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>The sheeple, most of whom subscribe to "Keepin' up with the Smiths,"
>>>>play an important role in the economy. Oddballs such as you and
>>>>me/Elle etc. reap the benefits of other people's investments, er,
>>>>spending.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I just like the old girl. I like knowing the car's history, and
>>>planning new projects for her. In the spring it's timing belt time
>>>again. :^)
>>>
>>>Plus, to me anyway, there's a certain coolness that derives from
>>>/not/ following the herd.
>>>
>>
>>Knowing what you have is half the battle. The other half is not having
>>a burning desire to keep up with style.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>Maybe you should spring for a rattle can paint job on the old gal's
>>>>300K anniversary...
>>>>
>>>><G>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>And cover up all that original paint? No way José.
>>>
>>>I did just spend $500 having the hood professionally repainted last
>>>year. I need to have it done every five years or so on account of
>>>stone chips.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> but when the interior and trim(plastics) begins degrading,and the car has a
> million rattles and squeaks,then it's nice to get a new car.
> you folks up North don't have the intense sun degradation we have in the
> southern US.
> OTOH,you have salted roads in the winter....
> (although living near the seacoast also corrodes autos.)
>


Ahhh, but I'm in the Austin, TX area and summer heat is hard on
interiors. But, the '83 still has a perfect dash and the '82 could be
an easy repair. The seats are another story though..

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(Msg. 42) Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:31 pm
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Jim Yanik wrote:

> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy.TakeThisOut@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
> news:D2z8j.46398$MJ6.10266@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
>>
>>dgk wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:13:01 GMT, Grumpy AuContraire
>>><Grumpy.TakeThisOut@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Maybe you should spring for a rattle can paint job on the old gal's
>>>>300K anniversary...
>>>>
>>>><G>
>>>>
>>>>JT
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Can I just do that? My 91's roof does lack something in shinyness
>>>and, well, consistency. I thought about having a paint job done but
>>>it's expensive and if I were going to spend that amount ($700 or so I
>>>think) I'd rather look into having the shocks done. But spray paint,
>>>that I can handle.
>>>
>>>Now that I think about it, there is some sort of paint sprayer in the
>>>garage. I'll have to open the box and see what it is.
>>
>>
>>Just go down to Harbor Freight for the gun/compressor and eBay for
>>cheap single stage paint.
>>
>>JT
>>
>>
>
>
> there's always Earl Schieib(sp?) and similar places.


Probably the best is MAACO but you gotta watch 'em... They'll add on
addons if you don't. Oh, and you do the prep to make sure that part is
done right.

JT
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:39 am
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Jim Yanik <jyanik.TakeThisOut@abuse.gov> wrote in
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>
> I still get a laugh from the "McKenzie Brothers",eh? Cool
>


The funniest thing about the McKenzie Brothers is that Dave Thomas and Rick
Moranis invented the Brothers as a joke, as a thumbed-nose to Canadian
regulators, who require a certain amount of "Canadian content" on Canadian-
legal television.

To their astonishment, the McKenzie Brothers became a continent-wide hit.

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Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy.DeleteThis@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
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>>
>>
>
>
> Let me know if you ever come across an EN1 1300 engine with
> accessories...
>


I don't think they have anything that old, but if I remember, I'll check in
the spring.

Spring seems a long way off right now. We got ten inches of snow yesterday
and I have a six-foot pile of snow at the end of my driveway. When we get
more snow I'm not sure where I'm going to put it...

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>
> Ahhh, but I'm in the Austin, TX area and summer heat is hard on
> interiors. But, the '83 still has a perfect dash and the '82 could be
> an easy repair. The seats are another story though..
>


But I'll bet /you/ don't have two feet of snow on your deck...

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