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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:12 am
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It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006 (US) is the 1995
Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have. Oh joy.

http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/wednesday/longi...nd/ny-l

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:20 am
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"dgk" <dgk.DeleteThis@somewhere.com> wrote in message
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> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006 (US) is the 1995
> Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have. Oh joy.
>
> http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/wednesday/longi...nd/ny-l

You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of thieves that are
stealing 13 and 17 year old cars. I suppose this has more to do with the
difficulty of stealing newer cars than the "goodness" of old Hondas. What
does one do with a stolen 1991 Accord? I know Honda parts are outrageously
expensive, but surely the demand for used 17 year old Honda parts must be
pretty low.

Ed

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:16 am
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"C. E. White" <cewhite3.RemoveThis@mindspring.com> wrote
> "dgk" <dgk.RemoveThis@somewhere.com> wrote
>> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006
>> (US) is the 1995
>> Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have.
>> Oh joy.

> You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of
> thieves that are stealing 13 and 17 year old cars. I
> suppose this has more to do with the difficulty of
> stealing newer cars than the "goodness" of old Hondas.
> What does one do with a stolen 1991 Accord?

I heard through the grapevine that much of the motivation
for car thefts in some cities is simply sport. Thieves steal
the car, drive it around for fun, then dump it. No profits
to be made, other than the exhilaration of the theft and
obviously short-term drive.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:28 pm
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"C. E. White" <cewhite3.TakeThisOut@mindspring.com> wrote in
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>
> "dgk" <dgk.TakeThisOut@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:hqqvl39l77cbt7h78m5p47pfd7sricpmms@4ax.com...
>> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006 (US) is the
>> 1995 Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have. Oh joy.

That's because they've run out of Integra GS-Rs to steal....
>>
>> http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/wednesday/longi
>> sland/ny-licars125496908dec12,0,7892563.story
>
> You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of thieves that
> are stealing 13 and 17 year old cars. I suppose this has more to do
> with the difficulty of stealing newer cars than the "goodness" of old
> Hondas. What does one do with a stolen 1991 Accord? I know Honda parts
> are outrageously expensive, but surely the demand for used 17 year old
> Honda parts must be pretty low.
>
> Ed
>
>
>

the older cars motors are more easily modified.

they take the motors,transaxles,ECU,seats,doors,front fenders,and other
misc parts,then torch the rest in some field.

These are usually street drag racers who burn up motors trying to get lots
of HP from them,and then steal to get 'new' motors to build up and burn up.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 3:45 pm
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:16:51 -0700, "Elle"
<honda.lioness.TakeThisOut@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:

>"C. E. White" <cewhite3.TakeThisOut@mindspring.com> wrote
>> "dgk" <dgk.TakeThisOut@somewhere.com> wrote
>>> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006
>>> (US) is the 1995
>>> Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have.
>>> Oh joy.
>
>> You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of
>> thieves that are stealing 13 and 17 year old cars. I
>> suppose this has more to do with the difficulty of
>> stealing newer cars than the "goodness" of old Hondas.
>> What does one do with a stolen 1991 Accord?
>
>I heard through the grapevine that much of the motivation
>for car thefts in some cities is simply sport. Thieves steal
>the car, drive it around for fun, then dump it. No profits
>to be made, other than the exhilaration of the theft and
>obviously short-term drive.
>
But that wouldn't target a 1991 Accord. It's solid, but with the
springs sort of shot, not the kind of car that's too much fun to drive
anymore.

I've never bothered to have comprehensive coverage because the car is
not exactly worth too much, but clearly someone wants it.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:45 pm
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"dgk" <dgk DeleteThis @somewhere.com> wrote
>>I heard through the grapevine that much of the motivation
>>for car thefts in some cities is simply sport. Thieves
>>steal
>>the car, drive it around for fun, then dump it. No profits
>>to be made, other than the exhilaration of the theft and
>>obviously short-term drive.
>>
> But that wouldn't target a 1991 Accord. It's solid, but
> with the
> springs sort of shot, not the kind of car that's too much
> fun to drive
> anymore.

I think the ease of theft may outweigh the suspension
quality, hp under the hood, etc. These guys often have just
a few minutes to get the wheels moving, right? If I were a
car thief out for thrills, I would not be so choosy.

> I've never bothered to have comprehensive coverage because
> the car is
> not exactly worth too much, but clearly someone wants it.

Indeed. One of the advantages of an older car.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:07 pm
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Jim Yanik wrote:
> "C. E. White" <cewhite3.DeleteThis@mindspring.com> wrote in
> news:13lvrfj59v43a6@corp.supernews.com:
>
>> "dgk" <dgk.DeleteThis@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:hqqvl39l77cbt7h78m5p47pfd7sricpmms@4ax.com...
>>> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006 (US) is the
>>> 1995 Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have. Oh joy.
>
> That's because they've run out of Integra GS-Rs to steal....
>>> http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/wednesday/longi
>>> sland/ny-licars125496908dec12,0,7892563.story
>> You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of thieves that
>> are stealing 13 and 17 year old cars. I suppose this has more to do
>> with the difficulty of stealing newer cars than the "goodness" of old
>> Hondas. What does one do with a stolen 1991 Accord? I know Honda parts
>> are outrageously expensive, but surely the demand for used 17 year old
>> Honda parts must be pretty low.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>
> the older cars motors are more easily modified.
>
> they take the motors,transaxles,ECU,seats,doors,front fenders,and other
> misc parts,then torch the rest in some field.
>
> These are usually street drag racers who burn up motors trying to get lots
> of HP from them,and then steal to get 'new' motors to build up and burn up.
>

you got it!
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:52 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:18 am
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jim beam <spamvortex.TakeThisOut@bad.example.net> wrote in
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> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3.TakeThisOut@mindspring.com> wrote in
>> news:13lvrfj59v43a6@corp.supernews.com:
>>
>>> "dgk" <dgk.TakeThisOut@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hqqvl39l77cbt7h78m5p47pfd7sricpmms@4ax.com...
>>>> It might be old news, but the most stolen car in 2006 (US) is the
>>>> 1995 Civic. Number 2 is a 1991 Accord. That's the one I have. Oh
>>>> joy.
>>
>> That's because they've run out of Integra GS-Rs to steal....
>>>> http://www.newsday.com/services/newspaper/printedition/wednesday/lon
>>>> gi sland/ny-licars125496908dec12,0,7892563.story
>>> You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of thieves that
>>> are stealing 13 and 17 year old cars. I suppose this has more to do
>>> with the difficulty of stealing newer cars than the "goodness" of
>>> old Hondas. What does one do with a stolen 1991 Accord? I know Honda
>>> parts are outrageously expensive, but surely the demand for used 17
>>> year old Honda parts must be pretty low.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> the older cars motors are more easily modified.
>>
>> they take the motors,transaxles,ECU,seats,doors,front fenders,and
>> other misc parts,then torch the rest in some field.
>>
>> These are usually street drag racers who burn up motors trying to get
>> lots of HP from them,and then steal to get 'new' motors to build up
>> and burn up.
>>
>
> you got it!
>

Personal experience;
I USED to own an Integra GS-R. stolen June 29th of this year.

I'd like Florida laws like Texas has concerning shooting people stealing
your property.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:25 am
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observer <not_kjhsfd7ywhj.RemoveThis@something.com> wrote in
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> C. E. White wrote:
>
>> You have to wonder about the talent and intelligence of thieves that
>> are stealing 13 and 17 year old cars.
>
> Well, since the demographic interested in those cars is the under 20
> lot then the intelligence of the thieves can explain itself - ever see
> a kid with the oversized baseball cap, moon boot running shoes, puffy
> jacket and size 50 pants look like anything other than a moron? So
> stealing a 17 year old car would seem like a good idea.
>

just because the car is old doesn't mean it's parts are not worth
stealing,to the dishonest.

Thieves went to the trouble of stealing the plastic "Acura" and "GS-R"
badges from my 94 GS-R. $60 bucks at the dealers.I didn't replace them.
Personally,I would rather cars not have such badges;they are a PITA to wax
around.I like the "no chrome" look,too.

Then they took the ECU;$800 and 6 weeks wait.
Then they took the whole car. 3 weeks to get paid for the total loss.


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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:31 am
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"Elle" <honda.lioness.RemoveThis@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in
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> "dgk" <dgk.RemoveThis@somewhere.com> wrote
>>>I heard through the grapevine that much of the motivation
>>>for car thefts in some cities is simply sport. Thieves
>>>steal
>>>the car, drive it around for fun, then dump it. No profits
>>>to be made, other than the exhilaration of the theft and
>>>obviously short-term drive.
>>>
>> But that wouldn't target a 1991 Accord. It's solid, but
>> with the
>> springs sort of shot, not the kind of car that's too much
>> fun to drive
>> anymore.
>
> I think the ease of theft may outweigh the suspension
> quality, hp under the hood, etc. These guys often have just
> a few minutes to get the wheels moving, right? If I were a
> car thief out for thrills, I would not be so choosy.
>
>> I've never bothered to have comprehensive coverage because
>> the car is
>> not exactly worth too much, but clearly someone wants it.

The Hell it's not worth comprehensive coverage...the cost to replace broken
windows,radio,stolen ECU,or like one girl's GS-R;stolen seats,cold air
intake,wheels and tires....
Then there's the major nuisance of your car not working until the missing
parts are replaced.

I paid less than $100 a year for $100 deductible.WELL worth it.

>
> Indeed. One of the advantages of an older car.
>
>
>



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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:19 pm
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Elle wrote:
> "dgk" <dgk RemoveThis @somewhere.com> wrote
>
>>>I heard through the grapevine that much of the motivation
>>>for car thefts in some cities is simply sport. Thieves
>>>steal
>>>the car, drive it around for fun, then dump it. No profits
>>>to be made, other than the exhilaration of the theft and
>>>obviously short-term drive.
>>>
>>
>>But that wouldn't target a 1991 Accord. It's solid, but
>>with the
>>springs sort of shot, not the kind of car that's too much
>>fun to drive
>>anymore.
>
>
> I think the ease of theft may outweigh the suspension
> quality, hp under the hood, etc. These guys often have just
> a few minutes to get the wheels moving, right? If I were a
> car thief out for thrills, I would not be so choosy.
>
>
>>I've never bothered to have comprehensive coverage because
>>the car is
>>not exactly worth too much, but clearly someone wants it.
>
>
> Indeed. One of the advantages of an older car.
>



One has to admire those that continue to run their old cars.

No longer trapped in the "trade 'n pay" morass, they maximize value and
focus on spending money elsewhere rather than feed the monetary squirrel
cage.

I only owned one new car in my life, a 1961 VW beetle. That car held its
value better than any other vehicle of its time but still, it rusted
away long ago.

Besides, tinkering with your old heap of iron helps to keep you from
getting into other trouble... (Hear that Teg?)

JT
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:19 pm
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"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy RemoveThis @ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote
> One has to admire those that continue to run their old
> cars.
>
> No longer trapped in the "trade 'n pay" morass, they
> maximize value and focus on spending money elsewhere
> rather than feed the monetary squirrel cage.
>
> I only owned one new car in my life, a 1961 VW beetle.
> That car held its value better than any other vehicle of
> its time but still, it rusted away long ago.

I think I am getting away from the thinking that, if driven
into the ground, a new car is as economical as an old one. I
have owned three cars. The last two were purchased spanking
new. But now having done a great deal of work on my current
wheels (1991 Civic) over the last several years and saving a
pile of money, I wonder whether buying used and driving it
into the ground is way more savings.

> Besides, tinkering with your old heap of iron helps to
> keep you from getting into other trouble...

True here.
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"Larry in AZ" <usenet2 DeleteThis @DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote
> Waiving the right to remain silent, "Elle"
> <honda.lioness DeleteThis @nospam.earthlink.net> said:
>
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy DeleteThis @ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote
>>> One has to admire those that continue to run their old
>>> cars.
>>>
>>> No longer trapped in the "trade 'n pay" morass, they
>>> maximize value and focus on spending money elsewhere
>>> rather than feed the monetary squirrel cage.
>>>
>>> I only owned one new car in my life, a 1961 VW beetle.
>>> That car held its value better than any other vehicle of
>>> its time but
>>> still, it rusted away long ago.
>>
>> I think I am getting away from the thinking that, if
>> driven
>> into the ground, a new car is as economical as an old
>> one. I
>> have owned three cars. The last two were purchased
>> spanking
>> new. But now having done a great deal of work on my
>> current
>> wheels (1991 Civic) over the last several years and
>> saving a
>> pile of money, I wonder whether buying used and driving
>> it
>> into the ground is way more savings.
>
> The week you need it the most

I neglected to mention I am retired.

> will be the week it fails to run and needs
> $2,500 in repairs, and you've got no warranty.

$2500 in repairs for a 91 Civic translates to either major
body work or something like a new engine. Car is worth about
$600 right now, per Kelly Blue Book.

I take the bus, bicycle, worst case taxi. Come on, give
people some credit.

> The repairs will probably
> cost more than the value of the car, so you'll need to
> purchase another
> immediately.
>
> What kind of "savings" is that..?

I do my own effin' repairs. I'd buy a new engine for under
$1000, install locally for about $500, and be good to go. Or
I'd buy a new car.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:21 pm
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> Personal experience;
> I USED to own an Integra GS-R. stolen June 29th of this year.
>
> I'd like Florida laws like Texas has concerning shooting people stealing
> your property.
>


Bang, bang, bang, <plop>... Bang, bang!

<G>

JT

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