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Bob Statkus

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 2:55 am
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I have a 2002 Excursion 4 x4 that you don't drive you steer... and steer and
steer.
The truck can't seem to take a track and hold it.
Now I'm not talking about hitting bumps and getting spring wrap steer, I'm
talking about you steer to a point in your lane and go down the road an if
the truck starts to drift right you move the wheel to compensate and now
your drifting left and on and on.
you get the picture?
checked suspension parts and there all ok, new shocks, new tires just put on
and alignment just done.
is there some valving in the power steering pump or steering box that goes
bad or?
I'm stumped, any ideas? sure could use some help on this one!
thanks
doubletriggers

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David M

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 7:50 am
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:52 pm
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I'd be looking at the ball joints. Sounds like the froze kingpin syndrome.
And yes, it happens to ball joints also.

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"Bob Statkus" <doubletriggers.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have a 2002 Excursion 4 x4 that you don't drive you steer... and steer
> and steer.
> The truck can't seem to take a track and hold it.
> Now I'm not talking about hitting bumps and getting spring wrap steer, I'm
> talking about you steer to a point in your lane and go down the road an if
> the truck starts to drift right you move the wheel to compensate and now
> your drifting left and on and on.
> you get the picture?
> checked suspension parts and there all ok, new shocks, new tires just put
> on and alignment just done.
> is there some valving in the power steering pump or steering box that goes
> bad or?
> I'm stumped, any ideas? sure could use some help on this one!
> thanks
> doubletriggers
>
>
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Ford Tech

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:51 pm
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"Bob Statkus" <doubletriggers.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> I have a 2002 Excursion 4 x4 that you don't drive you steer... and steer
> and steer.
> The truck can't seem to take a track and hold it.
> Now I'm not talking about hitting bumps and getting spring wrap steer, I'm
> talking about you steer to a point in your lane and go down the road an if
> the truck starts to drift right you move the wheel to compensate and now
> your drifting left and on and on.
> you get the picture?
> checked suspension parts and there all ok, new shocks, new tires just put
> on and alignment just done.
> is there some valving in the power steering pump or steering box that goes
> bad or?
> I'm stumped, any ideas? sure could use some help on this one!
> thanks
> doubletriggers

Seen this problem a few times before, and a new steering gear box was the
fix for that vehicle.. The symptoms are "it always feels like you are over
correcting", "it always wants to pull one direction or the other", "steers
very easily"... If you have those symptoms, I would suspect the valve in
the gearbox has gone bad and the gear box needs replaced... The last one I
saw this on was a '00'...

Also, having the alignment tech increase caster about .5deg might help a bit
too..

Ford Tech
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Bob Statkus

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:44 pm
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Dave
tires are trxus m/t from Interco- pressure is 55 lbs
but wandered w/old tires on and the same w/new tires







"David M" <NOSPAM.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 05:30:42 +0000, Bob Statkus rearranged some electrons
> to form:
>
>>
>> I have a 2002 Excursion 4 x4 that you don't drive you steer... and steer
>> and
>> steer.
>> The truck can't seem to take a track and hold it.
>> Now I'm not talking about hitting bumps and getting spring wrap steer,
>> I'm
>> talking about you steer to a point in your lane and go down the road an
>> if
>> the truck starts to drift right you move the wheel to compensate and now
>> your drifting left and on and on.
>> you get the picture?
>> checked suspension parts and there all ok, new shocks, new tires just put
>> on
>> and alignment just done.
>> is there some valving in the power steering pump or steering box that
>> goes
>> bad or?
>> I'm stumped, any ideas? sure could use some help on this one!
>> thanks
>> doubletriggers
>
> What kind of tires, and to what pressure were they inflated to?
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:34 pm
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"Bob Statkus" <doubletriggers.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dave
> tires are trxus m/t from Interco- pressure is 55 lbs
> but wandered w/old tires on and the same w/new tires

55psi??? No wonder that puppy is wandering away on you.. Take a look at your
door sticker, I believe the spec for the Expidition is 80PSI with 10ply
tires... The reason for this is due to the weight of the truck itself... It
sits on an F-250 frame and uses the same tires and wheels the F-250 does...

I think you need to re-think your tire selection... You need load range E
tires only, and you need to air them puppies up!!!

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:56 pm
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the spec. for excursion is 80 psi the same as the spec. on the super duty (i
also own one)
as i've done on the super duty if i don't have any load in the truck i run
at 55 lbs or they wear in the centers only
these are 10 ply tires(trxus m/t) i just put on - load range E
the old tires or new tires on the truck makes no difference
i will try the 80 psi just to make sure, but i think the earlier advice on
the steering box or lower ball jonts is where i'm going to concentrate,
thanks to all for your help




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> "Bob Statkus" <doubletriggers RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Dave
>> tires are trxus m/t from Interco- pressure is 55 lbs
>> but wandered w/old tires on and the same w/new tires
>
> 55psi??? No wonder that puppy is wandering away on you.. Take a look at
> your door sticker, I believe the spec for the Expidition is 80PSI with
> 10ply tires... The reason for this is due to the weight of the truck
> itself... It sits on an F-250 frame and uses the same tires and wheels the
> F-250 does...
>
> I think you need to re-think your tire selection... You need load range E
> tires only, and you need to air them puppies up!!!
>
> Ford Tech
>
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