shake problem

motsco_ wrote:
> MinnesotaMike wrote:
>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
>> off from a complete stop. It's like the car goes over rumble strips.
>> It just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is fine.
>> Like I said, this only happens when going from a complete stop. I had
>> my mechanic look at it and he could not find anything. His only
>> thought is that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do
>> transmissions though.
>>
>> Any thoughts on what it could be? Has anyone run into this problem?
>> I would hate to think about expensive transmission work. The car has
>> about 118,000 miles on it. Thanks.
>>
>> Mike
> ---------------------------------
>
> Sorry, what kind of tranny is in it?
>
> 'Curly'

cvt. according the manual, "judder on starting off" is either the start
clutch or bad transmission fluid. my money's on the latter. a few
quarts of honda z1 fluid should do the trick.
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"jim beam" <spamvortex RemoveThis @bad.example.net> wrote in message
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> motsco_ wrote:
>> MinnesotaMike wrote:
>>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
>>> off from a complete stop. It's like the car goes over rumble strips. It
>>> just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is fine. Like I
>>> said, this only happens when going from a complete stop. I had my
>>> mechanic look at it and he could not find anything. His only thought is
>>> that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do transmissions though.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on what it could be? Has anyone run into this problem? I
>>> would hate to think about expensive transmission work. The car has
>>> about 118,000 miles on it. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Mike
>> ---------------------------------
>>
>> Sorry, what kind of tranny is in it?
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
> cvt. according the manual, "judder on starting off" is either the start
> clutch or bad transmission fluid. my money's on the latter. a few quarts
> of honda z1 fluid should do the trick.

Could be a broken motor mount.
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jim beam wrote:
> motsco_ wrote:
>> MinnesotaMike wrote:
>>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I take
>>> off from a complete stop. It's like the car goes over rumble strips.
>>> It just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is fine.
>>> Like I said, this only happens when going from a complete stop. I
>>> had my mechanic look at it and he could not find anything. His only
>>> thought is that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do
>>> transmissions though.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on what it could be? Has anyone run into this problem?
>>> I would hate to think about expensive transmission work. The car has
>>> about 118,000 miles on it. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Mike
>> ---------------------------------
>>
>> Sorry, what kind of tranny is in it?
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
> cvt. according the manual, "judder on starting off" is either the start
> clutch or bad transmission fluid. my money's on the latter. a few
> quarts of honda z1 fluid should do the trick.

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Yep. You don't want trouble with a CVT. I'd spend the extra and
drain-n-fill it three times, a day or two apart. There's something
special in that Z1 that the CVT needs to have smeared around it's
innards.. Here's a thread about the Honda HR-V which has a similar tranny:
http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=17604

Please check with your dealer which fluid to use.

'Curly'
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Thanks for the suggestions and help. The motor mounts look fine, so I
will schedule a transmission fluid drain and fill with the nearest Honda
dealer as soon as possible. Unfortunately, none in town. I assume I
can forgo the multiple changes if the dealer does it. Do you see any
problems using it until I get that changed?

Mike




motsco_ wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>> motsco_ wrote:
>>> MinnesotaMike wrote:
>>>> I have a 1997 Civic HX that has started to shake a little when I
>>>> take off from a complete stop. It's like the car goes over rumble
>>>> strips. It just happens for a couple seconds and then everything is
>>>> fine. Like I said, this only happens when going from a complete
>>>> stop. I had my mechanic look at it and he could not find anything.
>>>> His only thought is that it's in the transmission, and he doesn't do
>>>> transmissions though.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts on what it could be? Has anyone run into this
>>>> problem? I would hate to think about expensive transmission work.
>>>> The car has about 118,000 miles on it. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>> ---------------------------------
>>>
>>> Sorry, what kind of tranny is in it?
>>>
>>> 'Curly'
>>
>> cvt. according the manual, "judder on starting off" is either the
>> start clutch or bad transmission fluid. my money's on the latter. a
>> few quarts of honda z1 fluid should do the trick.
>
> -------------------------
>
> Yep. You don't want trouble with a CVT. I'd spend the extra and
> drain-n-fill it three times, a day or two apart. There's something
> special in that Z1 that the CVT needs to have smeared around it's
> innards.. Here's a thread about the Honda HR-V which has a similar tranny:
> http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=17604
>
> Please check with your dealer which fluid to use.
>
> 'Curly'
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MinnesotaMike wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions and help. The motor mounts look fine, so I
> will schedule a transmission fluid drain and fill with the nearest Honda
> dealer as soon as possible. Unfortunately, none in town. I assume I
> can forgo the multiple changes if the dealer does it. Do you see any
> problems using it until I get that changed?
>
> Mike
>
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Have the dealer put it on the bus to you. When you DIY, you know it was
done, and it's easier than changing your oil. I don't know much about
the insides of the CVT, but the torque converter on a 'normal' tranny
holds about half of the total liquid volume. Since you can never get it
all out, you take it out 1/3rd at a time and do it three times.
Why not sign in and use the SEARCH feature at the link I provided.
You're talking about a life-n-death issue with your vehicle (the
tranny's life).

'Curly'
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Thanks Curly. I will look into that for the next time. I came to find
out I have to leave town tomorrow. I was actually able to get the car
in tomorrow morning for the fluid change. For $65 I figured it was
worth paying them this time. I'll let you know if it helps. Thanks
again for your help.

Mike



motsco_ wrote:
>
>
> Have the dealer put it on the bus to you. When you DIY, you know it was
> done, and it's easier than changing your oil. I don't know much about
> the insides of the CVT, but the torque converter on a 'normal' tranny
> holds about half of the total liquid volume. Since you can never get it
> all out, you take it out 1/3rd at a time and do it three times.
> Why not sign in and use the SEARCH feature at the link I provided.
> You're talking about a life-n-death issue with your vehicle (the
> tranny's life).
>
> 'Curly'
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Just got back from my out-of-state trip with the Civic and the
transmission is working as it should. Thanks for all the help!

Mike



MinnesotaMike wrote:
> Thanks Curly. I will look into that for the next time. I came to find
> out I have to leave town tomorrow. I was actually able to get the car
> in tomorrow morning for the fluid change. For $65 I figured it was
> worth paying them this time. I'll let you know if it helps. Thanks
> again for your help.
>
> Mike
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MinnesotaMike wrote:
> Just got back from my out-of-state trip with the Civic and the
> transmission is working as it should. Thanks for all the help!
>
> Mike
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Thanks Curly. I will look into that for the next time. I came to find
out I have to leave town tomorrow. I was actually able to get the car
in tomorrow morning for the fluid change. For $65 I figured it was
worth paying them this time. I'll let you know if it helps. Thanks
again for your help.

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Keep in mind that they probably only did _one_ drain-n-fill for that
kind of money. You should do it TWICE more to insure your tranny will
perform well for a long time. You won't 'save money' by trying to save
it on tranny fluid.

They installed about 3.5 quarts, right?

'Curly'
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Looks like 4 quarts on the bill.

Mike




motsco_ wrote:
>
> Keep in mind that they probably only did _one_ drain-n-fill for that
> kind of money. You should do it TWICE more to insure your tranny will
> perform well for a long time. You won't 'save money' by trying to save
> it on tranny fluid.
>
> They installed about 3.5 quarts, right?
>
> 'Curly'
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