setup up differential gears?

I second the motion to take it too an expert. They will set it up for 2-3
hundred dollars.
With a Dana, you often don't need the pinion depth guage "if" the old and
new pinion are marked with the number of thousandths they are +or- from the
standard. Good instructions will tell how to adjust the shims according to
the difference between the two.
But there is still a lot of luck involved if you have never done it before.


"Dwain G." <jdwain DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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> There may be, I haven't looked for one. There are videos you can purchase.
> The most critical measurment is pinion depth, and you need a set of
> precision measuring tools made especially for that purpose. You'll also
> need inch and foot pound torque wrenches, dial indicator with attachments,
> and assorted hand tools. Unless you have all these or want to own them,
> you
> might consider just taking it to a ring and pinion specialist to have it
> set up.
 >> Stay informed about: setup up differential gears? 

"Mike M." <mmoss5.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Is there a website with a detailed instruction sheet on setting up gears
> in a differential??
>
> I would appreciate any info or website anyone has access to.

This page gives a general overview:

http://drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html

Everyone seems to consider the measured pinion depth as being critical but,
in reality, it's only a checking depth.
All manufacturers (including Stude) specify that the final determination of
correct ring/pinion mesh is the contact pattern; since the pinion depth must
often be changed to obtain a correct pattern, the actual measured dimension
is of no real importance.

Since the correct contact pattern can be achieved by simple trial and error,
no special tools are actually needed.
 >> Stay informed about: setup up differential gears? 

OK guys,
Special thanks to all who responded... You have given me several articles to
look at and some good straight forward advice. I appreciate it!

I am weighing my options...
Thanks again,
Mike M.
63Champ
65 Commander

"John Kunkel" <nobody DeleteThis @nowhere.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike M." <mmoss5 DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ydCRg.361$2g4.204@dukeread09...
>> Is there a website with a detailed instruction sheet on setting up gears
>> in a differential??
>>
>> I would appreciate any info or website anyone has access to.
>
> This page gives a general overview:
>
> http://drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
>
> Everyone seems to consider the measured pinion depth as being critical
> but, in reality, it's only a checking depth.
> All manufacturers (including Stude) specify that the final determination
> of correct ring/pinion mesh is the contact pattern; since the pinion depth
> must often be changed to obtain a correct pattern, the actual measured
> dimension is of no real importance.
>
> Since the correct contact pattern can be achieved by simple trial and
> error, no special tools are actually needed.
>
 >> Stay informed about: setup up differential gears? 

But if you use the trial and error method, according to the book, you have
to use a new crush sleeve everytime you disassemble it. Better to get the
pinion depth right the first time.

"John Kunkel" <nobody.RemoveThis@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Mike M." <mmoss5.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ydCRg.361$2g4.204@dukeread09...
>> Is there a website with a detailed instruction sheet on setting up gears
>> in a differential??
>>
>> I would appreciate any info or website anyone has access to.
>
> This page gives a general overview:
>
> http://drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
>
> Everyone seems to consider the measured pinion depth as being critical
> but, in reality, it's only a checking depth.
> All manufacturers (including Stude) specify that the final determination
> of correct ring/pinion mesh is the contact pattern; since the pinion depth
> must often be changed to obtain a correct pattern, the actual measured
> dimension is of no real importance.
>
> Since the correct contact pattern can be achieved by simple trial and
> error, no special tools are actually needed.
>
 >> Stay informed about: setup up differential gears? 

"Alex Magdaleno" <plymouth47075.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> But if you use the trial and error method, according to the book, you have
> to use a new crush sleeve everytime you disassemble it. Better to get the
> pinion depth right the first time.

The crush sleeve (if used) isn't needed to set the pinion bearing preload
and check the contact pattern. It doesn't need to be installed until after
the pattern is checked and the final assembly takes place.





>
> "John Kunkel" <nobody.RemoveThis@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:EoqdnTJOo9suoIXYnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>> "Mike M." <mmoss5.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:ydCRg.361$2g4.204@dukeread09...
>>> Is there a website with a detailed instruction sheet on setting up gears
>>> in a differential??
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any info or website anyone has access to.
>>
>> This page gives a general overview:
>>
>> http://drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
>>
>> Everyone seems to consider the measured pinion depth as being critical
>> but, in reality, it's only a checking depth.
>> All manufacturers (including Stude) specify that the final determination
>> of correct ring/pinion mesh is the contact pattern; since the pinion
>> depth must often be changed to obtain a correct pattern, the actual
>> measured dimension is of no real importance.
>>
>> Since the correct contact pattern can be achieved by simple trial and
>> error, no special tools are actually needed.
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: setup up differential gears? 

I don't think that the crush sleeves are used on the stude dana's, at
least not he 44's I"ve set up.
John Kunkel wrote:
> "Alex Magdaleno" <plymouth47075 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:efaalr0ubo@news2.newsguy.com...
> > But if you use the trial and error method, according to the book, you have
> > to use a new crush sleeve everytime you disassemble it. Better to get the
> > pinion depth right the first time.
>
> The crush sleeve (if used) isn't needed to set the pinion bearing preload
> and check the contact pattern. It doesn't need to be installed until after
> the pattern is checked and the final assembly takes place.
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > "John Kunkel" <nobody DeleteThis @nowhere.net> wrote in message
> > news:EoqdnTJOo9suoIXYnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >>
> >> "Mike M." <mmoss5 DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in message
> >> news:ydCRg.361$2g4.204@dukeread09...
> >>> Is there a website with a detailed instruction sheet on setting up gears
> >>> in a differential??
> >>>
> >>> I would appreciate any info or website anyone has access to.
> >>
> >> This page gives a general overview:
> >>
> >> http://drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
> >>
> >> Everyone seems to consider the measured pinion depth as being critical
> >> but, in reality, it's only a checking depth.
> >> All manufacturers (including Stude) specify that the final determination
> >> of correct ring/pinion mesh is the contact pattern; since the pinion
> >> depth must often be changed to obtain a correct pattern, the actual
> >> measured dimension is of no real importance.
> >>
> >> Since the correct contact pattern can be achieved by simple trial and
> >> error, no special tools are actually needed.
> >>
> >
> >
 >> Stay informed about: setup up differential gears? 

I have the excellent Technical Video produced DVD for "Differential
Rebuilding" It is clear and very well done. Excellent camera work. I
bought it off eBay 2 weeks ago, ran it 5 times to familiarize myself
with the Dana 44 (TT and non-TT) rebuild. Came to the conclusion that
I "can do this", but that the equipment was too steep for what I am
planning to make a one-time event. I found the local diffy shop that
does all the work in a 3 county area, and they will do it for what it
would cost me for all the equipment that I would have to buy.

So, I bought the DVD for 29.95 plus shipping. I will sell it for 25.95
plus shipping, PayPal Please. (USPS Media Mail is cheapest) let me
know if this works for you.

Mike M. wrote:
> Is there a website with a detailed instruction sheet on setting up gears in
> a differential??
>
> I would appreciate any info or website anyone has access to.
> Thanks,
> Mike M.
> 63 Champ
> 65 Commander
> 81 Cordoba
> 96 Towncar
> 96 Concorde
 >> Stay informed about: setup up differential gears? 

No crush sleeve is used in the Dana 44, 27, or 23 as used in Studebakers.

"rustynutgarage" <russandsharon.RemoveThis@ev1.net> wrote in message
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>I don't think that the crush sleeves are used on the stude dana's, at
> least not he 44's I"ve set up.
> John Kunkel wrote:
>> "Alex Magdaleno" <plymouth47075.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:efaalr0ubo@news2.newsguy.com...
>> > But if you use the trial and error method, according to the book, you
>> > have
>> > to use a new crush sleeve everytime you disassemble it. Better to get
>> > the
>> > pinion depth right the first time.
>>
>> The crush sleeve (if used) isn't needed to set the pinion bearing preload
>> and check the contact pattern. It doesn't need to be installed until
>> after
>> the pattern is checked and the final assembly takes place.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > "John Kunkel" <nobody.RemoveThis@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>> > news:EoqdnTJOo9suoIXYnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> >>
>> >> "Mike M." <mmoss5.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:ydCRg.361$2g4.204@dukeread09...
>> >>> Is there a website with a detailed instruction sheet on setting up
>> >>> gears
>> >>> in a differential??
>> >>>
>> >>> I would appreciate any info or website anyone has access to.
>> >>
>> >> This page gives a general overview:
>> >>
>> >> http://drivetrain.com/ringpinioninstal.html
>> >>
>> >> Everyone seems to consider the measured pinion depth as being critical
>> >> but, in reality, it's only a checking depth.
>> >> All manufacturers (including Stude) specify that the final
>> >> determination
>> >> of correct ring/pinion mesh is the contact pattern; since the pinion
>> >> depth must often be changed to obtain a correct pattern, the actual
>> >> measured dimension is of no real importance.
>> >>
>> >> Since the correct contact pattern can be achieved by simple trial and
>> >> error, no special tools are actually needed.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: setup up differential gears?