s10 torque sensor

This is a 97 s10 with a 4.3 motor. The trans is auto with over drive.
I had a Goodyear put it on a complete computer. They couldn't tell me why
the light comes on in the dash service engine, but he thought there was a
short in the speed sensor. I replaced the speed sensor today, and that
didn't work
Every thing works fine then after I drive say 20 miles then turn it off and
come out of a store and start it, the first time I put it into drive
something trips. The trans is in second gear, and wont go into 1st when it
happens, I figured out today.
The shift sensor maybe next?

I was told it was the torque, by a Auto zone guy that tested the computer
with a 100.00 tester last week.

"Marsh Monster" <MarshMonster2624.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1189504857.975486.43390@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 9, 5:51?pm, "Al" <klcr....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
>> The service engine light goes on, The computer in the truck says it
>> the
>> torque converter. This is a basic tester no codes. I take the power from
>> the
>> battery and reset the computer. This fixes the low torque feeling I get,
>> and
>> the service engine light goes out. I am told it might be a sensor
>> causing
>> this, not the torque converter. There has been no jumping or hesitation
>> during shifting. There is a little revving, less torque feeling while I
>> start to give gas. This goes away after the reset.
>>
>> "Marsh Monster" <MarshMonster2....TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1189371522.137765.186220@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Sep 9, 1:26?pm, "Al" <klcr....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> I think I have a electrical problem causing my torque sensor to trip,
>> >> how
>> >> can I have this checked, or how do I check this?
>>
>> > wtfk is a "torque sensor" ???
>>
>> > ~:~
>> > marsh
>> > ~takes a toke~
>> > ~:~- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> =======
> =======
>
> Again.......i ask......wtfk is a "torque sensor"??
>
> Yer wording, not mine.
>
>
> anywhooooo.......
>
> Year, Eng. Size, and Tranny type would be interesting to know.
>
>
> The "code" number would help JEST FK'N LITTLE BIT!!!
>
>
> what's the chances it's code # P1870 ?????
> (jest a guess..only a guess..fer a real guess....)
> (PROVIDE MORE INFO!! )
>
>
> anywhooooooo......(again).............
>
>
> code #
> year of vehicle..
> engine size
>
>
>
> ~:~
> MarshMonster
> ~sips his crownroyal....drops in a mushroom.....and wonders
> if you know that he knows that you don't know that he knows
> that you don't know what he knows.~
> ~:~
>
 >> Stay informed about: s10 torque sensor 

Al wrote:
> This is a 97 s10 with a 4.3 motor. The trans is auto with over drive.
> I had a Goodyear put it on a complete computer. They couldn't tell me why
> the light comes on in the dash service engine, but he thought there was a
> short in the speed sensor. I replaced the speed sensor today, and that
> didn't work
> Every thing works fine then after I drive say 20 miles then turn it off and
> come out of a store and start it, the first time I put it into drive
> something trips. The trans is in second gear, and wont go into 1st when it
> happens, I figured out today.
> The shift sensor maybe next?
>
> I was told it was the torque, by a Auto zone guy that tested the computer
> with a 100.00 tester last week.
>

Take it to a GOOD shop. Goodyear does NOT fall in that category.
Then get the numeric code that is stored in the computer. Then follow
the proper diagnostic tree for that code. What you are discovering is
that the code you get may not even be remotely related to the problem
that is causing it.

If you have a shorted speed sensor you would start by testing the sensor
itself, while looking at the scanner to see what it is telling the
computer. Then tracing the harness back through the vehicle and look at
the connections and wires. The short could also be in the computer, or
it may be that something else in the transmission is causing the same
type of fault that a short would cause.




--
Steve W.
 >> Stay informed about: s10 torque sensor 

"Steve W." <yahoo RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message news:fc7d0f$htf$1@aioe.org...
>>
>> I was told it was the torque, by a Auto zone guy that tested the computer
>> with a 100.00 tester last week.

> Steve W.

Occasionally you will find a guy or gal working in a parts store who is
retired
mechanic looking for a little extra cash (a very little I might add) and
really knows his stuff,
as long as he hasnt been out of it too long, its as easy to get dated in
auto repair as computer repair these days.

But he/she is a rariety. The average Autozone/Discount/what have you chain
store
counterman makes about $7 an hour, and you want to trust your diagnostics to
one of them?
They never say the problem is in this area, its this sensor needs to be
replaced, when as Steve pointed out its a case of a sensor is reading out of
range, and you need to determine why its
reading out of range.
The only thing in the tranny that remotely relates to "torque sensor" might
be the torque convertor lock up relay or switch. But that usually causes
one of two issues, ether it wont lock up the torque convertor, or more
often, it wont unlock and the vehiscle acts like you forgot to push the
clutch in at the light when you come to a stop. In severe cases it acts liie
a locked up engine when you try to start it. Ford was famous for that back
in the early-mid 80's.

Whitelightning
 >> Stay informed about: s10 torque sensor 

I am taking it to this shop, because it close to where I work. They have
a full diagnostic computer, that tells them they have to check each sensor
via. voltage like u say. He told me to try the speed sensor first, the other
day. There was a error then no error, back and forth like.
Then we went online help and read how to check each sensor. The sensors
trouble notes explained general stuff like trans. trouble, with the speed
sensor. I went and bought this sensor myself and replaced it. 25.00$ for
the sensor.
That didn't work.
I will take it back to them in the morning to check the other sensors.
I hopes it's a sensor like the shift sensor. When this happens. It wont
shift right and not go into 1st gear, even if I put the shift down to 1st it
wont go, it will only go down into second. Then it wont feel its in park to
let the key release. It will go into park and I can turn motor off but no
key release.


"Steve W." <yahoo RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message news:fc7d0f$htf$1@aioe.org...
> Al wrote:
>> This is a 97 s10 with a 4.3 motor. The trans is auto with over drive.
>> I had a Goodyear put it on a complete computer. They couldn't tell me why
>> the light comes on in the dash service engine, but he thought there was a
>> short in the speed sensor. I replaced the speed sensor today, and that
>> didn't work
>> Every thing works fine then after I drive say 20 miles then turn it off
>> and come out of a store and start it, the first time I put it into drive
>> something trips. The trans is in second gear, and wont go into 1st when
>> it happens, I figured out today.
>> The shift sensor maybe next?
>>
>> I was told it was the torque, by a Auto zone guy that tested the computer
>> with a 100.00 tester last week.
>>
>
> Take it to a GOOD shop. Goodyear does NOT fall in that category.
> Then get the numeric code that is stored in the computer. Then follow the
> proper diagnostic tree for that code. What you are discovering is that the
> code you get may not even be remotely related to the problem that is
> causing it.
>
> If you have a shorted speed sensor you would start by testing the sensor
> itself, while looking at the scanner to see what it is telling the
> computer. Then tracing the harness back through the vehicle and look at
> the connections and wires. The short could also be in the computer, or it
> may be that something else in the transmission is causing the same type of
> fault that a short would cause.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Steve W.
 >> Stay informed about: s10 torque sensor 

Yeah and I've seen $75 an hour mechanics who knew less than the parts
counter guy.
The price you pay is no guarantee of receiving good or smart advice.
>
> But he/she is a rariety. The average Autozone/Discount/what have you
> chain store
> counterman makes about $7 an hour, and you want to trust your diagnostics
> to one of them?
>
 >> Stay informed about: s10 torque sensor 

Well I went to the Goodyear and waited until 8:30 a.m. for the one guy to
show. It was suppose to be 8:00. Then I went to Chevy dealer for a 80.00$
diagnostic, They told me the ignition switch. That made sense to me, The
switch wasn't powering the trans, so I had then change it. I was tired of
messing with this truck. 461.00$

P.S. I switched out a ignition switch myself from a junk yard 5 months ago
for this truck stalling on me. The Dealer wanted 240.00$ for the new switch,
I thought it was to much. I spent 100.00 on the junk steering column

"Al" <klcross.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:S6KdnZVLpet9p3nbnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>I think I have a electrical problem causing my torque sensor to trip, how
>can I have this checked, or how do I check this?
>
 >> Stay informed about: s10 torque sensor 

I had to replace the ignition switch, via the chevy dealer. 461.00$. The
dealer told me it had 5 codes pointing to the switch. What the codes are I
don't know. The switch wasn't powering the trans right. Its a bad switch, it
went bad before. I changed with a used one form a junk yard.
They want over 200.00 for the top part of the SHIFT LINKAGE. It feels a
little lose. I will tighten it. The trans SHIFT LINKAGE looks and feels ok
This is a 4.3 S10 chevy truck with a auto trans with overdrive.
"Marsh Monster" <MarshMonster2624.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1189834469.775771.91470@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> ========
> ========
> <<snipped,clipped,edited fer impotence>>
> ========
> ========
>
> "Al" blurted out in despair:
>
> ? ? I will take it back to them in the morning to check the other
> ?sensors.
> I hopes it's a sensor like the shift sensor. When this happens. It
> wont
> shift right and not go into 1st gear, even if I put the shift down to
> 1st it
> wont go, it will only go down into second. Then it wont feel its in
> park to
> let the key release. It will go into park and I can turn motor off
> but no
> key release.
> ==========
> ==========
>
>
> CHECK THE MLPS, aka PRNDL switch on the side
> of your transmission..aka 4L60E.
>
> 4 forward gears
> L ongitudinal transmission
> 60 series
> E lectronic
>
> CHECK THE SHIFT LINKAGE .....ON.....the tranny,
> make sure it has NO...looseness when shifting through
> the selector ranges.
>
> why???
> CUZ I TOLD YOU TO......that's why!!
>
>
> AND.........
> GIVE ME THE FK'N CODE LIKE I ASKED FOR!!!!!
> and i'll try to give you what you need.
> (give a little..git a little..givuh lot.....gitta lot)
>
>
>
>
> anywhooo.......
> as a side note.......
> pulling that suckah down into manual low overides the
> computer..and FORCES...1st gear starts.......
> jest a tidbit i picked up during the "big war".
>
>
>
>
> ~:~
> marsh
> ~takes another toke......and wonders if you wonder if i
> wonder if you wonder that i know that you don't know
> what i know that you don't know....~
> ~:~
>
 >> Stay informed about: s10 torque sensor