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Kafertoys

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:00 am
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My wife's 240 is running very rich about every 3or 4 months I have to
replace the spark plugs. I've already tried replaceing the air flow
meter, no help It runs better with out it pluged in. Not that its
that much of a big deal due to the fact that even after a year or more
of driving we still have less then $250 tied up into this, even being
a daily driver. What I'm thinking is if I could lean it out some it
might get better gas milage , I have no clue what the mpg is, but I
know that its not what it should be.

any thoughts?

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Mr. V

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:41 am
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What year is the car?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:39 am
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Kafertoys DeleteThis @aol.com wrote:
> My wife's 240 is running very rich about every 3or 4 months I have to
> replace the spark plugs. I've already tried replaceing the air flow
> meter, no help It runs better with out it pluged in. Not that its
> that much of a big deal due to the fact that even after a year or more
> of driving we still have less then $250 tied up into this, even being
> a daily driver. What I'm thinking is if I could lean it out some it
> might get better gas milage , I have no clue what the mpg is, but I
> know that its not what it should be.
>
> any thoughts?


You'll have to let us know what year the car is, there were several
different engine and fuel system combinations used in 240s over the years.

If it's pre-'88 and has the original engine wiring harness, replace
that. The coolant temp sensor for the ECU (there's a separate one for
the gauge) is also suspect. Fuel pressure regulator is a possibility,
but usually they run lean when those go bad.
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Kafertoys

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:11 pm
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On Dec 4, 9:39�am, James Sweet wrote:
> Kafert....DeleteThis@aol.com wrote:
> > My wife's 240 is running very rich �about every 3or 4 months I have to
> > replace the spark plugs. I've already tried replaceing the air flow
> > meter, no help �It �runs better with out it �pluged in. �Not that its
> > that much of a big deal due to the fact that even after a year or more
> > of driving we still have less then $250 tied up into this, even being
> > a daily driver. �What I'm thinking is if I could lean it out some it
> > might get better gas milage , I have no clue what the mpg is, but I
> > know that its not what it should be.
>
> > any thoughts?
>
> You'll have to let us know what year the car is, there were several
> different engine and fuel system combinations used in 240s over the years..
>
> If it's pre-'88 and has the original engine wiring harness, replace
> that. The coolant temp sensor for the ECU (there's a separate one for
> the gauge) is also suspect. Fuel pressure regulator is a possibility,
> but usually they run lean when those go bad.

its an 9/88 240 gl whats funny is none of the parts stores say it
exist or have a listing for it.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:12 pm
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On Dec 4, 8:00 am, "Kafert...@aol.com" wrote:
> My wife's 240 is running very rich  about every 3or 4 months I have to
> replace the spark plugs. I've already tried replaceing the air flow
> meter, no help  It  runs better with out it  pluged in.  Not that its
> that much of a big deal due to the fact that even after a year or more
> of driving we still have less then $250 tied up into this, even being
> a daily driver.  What I'm thinking is if I could lean it out some it
> might get better gas milage , I have no clue what the mpg is, but I
> know that its not what it should be.
>
> any thoughts?

What year, does it have a distributor if so check timing, retarded 3
degrees got me less power and 3mpg. Retarded timing makes plugs maybe
15f cooler per degree retarded. Maybe a bad O2 sensor.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:24 pm
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ransley wrote:
> On Dec 4, 8:00 am, "Kafert...@aol.com" wrote:
>> My wife's 240 is running very rich about every 3or 4 months I have to
>> replace the spark plugs. I've already tried replaceing the air flow
>> meter, no help It runs better with out it pluged in. Not that its
>> that much of a big deal due to the fact that even after a year or more
>> of driving we still have less then $250 tied up into this, even being
>> a daily driver. What I'm thinking is if I could lean it out some it
>> might get better gas milage , I have no clue what the mpg is, but I
>> know that its not what it should be.
>>
>> any thoughts?
>
> What year, does it have a distributor if so check timing, retarded 3
> degrees got me less power and 3mpg. Retarded timing makes plugs maybe
> 15f cooler per degree retarded. Maybe a bad O2 sensor.


All 240s have a distributor, doesn't matter what year. '88 and later the
timing is not adjustable as it is controlled by a crankshaft sensor. The
distributor only points the spark to the correct plug.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:53 pm
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BE WARNED. MARIO GAVAZZI, AKA "KAFERTOYS" OF "VINTAGE WERKS
RESTORATION" IN BURLINGTON, NORTH CAROLINA IS A SCAM ARTIST, LIAR AND
THIEF. PLEASE SEE THE FOLLOWING:
http://www.mariogavazzivintagewerks.com/
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96792
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeQ8UwWPP4Y

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Kafertoys

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:12 am
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On Dec 4, 5:53�pm, Meyer wrote:
> BE WARNED. MARIO GAVAZZI, AKA "KAFERTOYS" OF "VINTAGE WERKS
> RESTORATION" IN BURLINGTON, NORTH CAROLINA IS A SCAM ARTIST, LIAR AND
> THIEF. PLEASE SEE THE FOLLOWING:http://www.mariogavazzivintagewerks.com/http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96792http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeQ8UwWPP4Y
>
> Thankyou.

oh look my cyber stalking freaks are here

Sorry all this person needs to get a life.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:10 am
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Please see rec.autos.makers.vw.aircooled - multiple threads . The
entire VW world wants him off Usenet after he's ripped off several
people. Not one person will have anything to do with him on Usenet.
You can see Mario on camera for yourself here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeQ8UwWPP4Y
.. A local newscrew did an investigation on him. He ran away and hid.
The guy is a real scum.

Thanks.
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Kafertoys

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:49 pm
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> Thanks.

http://good-times.webshots.com/album/560088269FDkEKd

Most of this is in the last few years any that have been at a show has
won an award, and my business is swamped with work, so I don't even
advertise.

The reason I'm tring to get the gas milage up on the wifes Volvo is
she will be using it to deliver for meals on wheels to replace the
wife of one of my customers who just had medical treatment on her
legs.


Its a Volvo I don't worry about her breaking down so if it sucks a
little gas oh well.

I apoligize to all here . this has to do with a very confused
customer and a very few that need to get a life cyber stalks me.
( its great for laughs thou.)
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Meyer

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:33 pm
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Mario Gavazzi, aka Kafertoys has been banned from all of the major
Volkswagen forums because of his fraudulent dealings so posts on
Usenet because its the only place he can't be kicked off. He has
multiple unpaid court judgements and outstanding claims against him in
more than one state. We call him "Bondo Boy" because of his shoddy
workmanship. We call him worse because of his lack of ethics and the
several people we know about for sure that he's ripped off.

Follow the links, and be especially sure to watch the video. There is
a mountain of evidence and the documentation is rather complete.
Everytime somebody tries to confront him with the facts, he lies about
awards he hasn't won and points to tiny pictures that mean nothing.
Viewed up close, his work is unbelievably bad. Follow the links for
more detail - real, big, easily identifiable and fully documented
pictures.

Bottom line: Mario Gavazzi and his wife Sherry Kelly of "Vintage Werks
Restoration" in Burlington, North Carolia, kafertoys RemoveThis @aol.com, are
proven thieves and a liars, and you should do business with them at
your own risk.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:44 am
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if you want to waste your time you can find out that the BBB has
nothing on my business nor do I or my wife have a chriminal record
and these keyboard cowards hide be hide behind fake names so not to be
sued for slander.


> Bottom line: Mario Gavazzi and his wife Sherry Kelly of "Vintage Werks
> Restoration" in Burlington, North Carolia, kafert....DeleteThis@aol.com, are
> proven thieves and a liars, �and you should do business with them at
> your own risk.
>
> Thanks.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:10 am
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Exactly the behavior I was talking about. I mentioned multiple
judgements and outstanding collection actions against him, the fact
that he has been banned from all the major Volkswagen sites for his
crimes and provided several links detailing his past. His response is
some vague nonsense about the BBB and his criminal record. Proof
enough right there.

Also kind of funny, in a pathetic sort of way, how a guy who lives in
a rented trailer (can't own property because of the judgements against
him) thinks he can somehow pull off an interstate slander suit. Not to
mention his faulty understanding of slander litigation. Its not
slander when its true, for starters.

But here's another example of how he habitually lies:
http://www.mariogavazzivintagewerks.com/
http://www.metwiz.com/joansbug.htm

The two links above say the exact same thing many of us have been
saying for a long, long time, and they have been posted by EASILY
IDENTIFIED, WELL KNOWN legitimate businessmen in the air-cooled
Volkswagen world. They are even in Mario's area -- yet suprisingly, no
lawsuit. Compare and contrast with his earlier claim that this all has
to do with a single "confused customer".

Mario lies like a cheap rug.

I'm belaboring the obvious at this point, but as I said before, Mario
Gavazzi and his wife Sherry Kelly of "Vintage Werks Restoration" in
Burlington, North Carolia, kafertoys.TakeThisOut@aol.com, are proven thieves and a
liars, and you should do business with them at your own risk.
http://www.mariogavazzivintagewerks.com/
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96792
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeQ8UwWPP4Y


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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:59 am
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"Meyer" wrote in message

> BE WARNED. MARIO GAVAZZI, AKA "KAFERTOYS" OF "VINTAGE WERKS
> RESTORATION" IN BURLINGTON, NORTH CAROLINA IS A SCAM ARTIST, LIAR AND
> THIEF. PLEASE SEE THE FOLLOWING:
> http://www.mariogavazzivintagewerks.com/
> http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96792
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeQ8UwWPP4Y
>
> Thankyou.

What does that have to do with this? He's not offering to do business, he's
just asking about a Volvo. If you have an issue with him, take it to an
appropriate place, which this group is not.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:08 pm
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On Dec 4, 7:00 am, "Kafert...@aol.com" <Kafert....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
> My wife's 240 is running very rich  about every 3or 4 months I have to
> replace the spark plugs. I've already tried replaceing the air flow
> meter, no help  It  runs better with out it  pluged in.  Not that its
> that much of a big deal due to the fact that even after a year or more
> of driving we still have less then $250 tied up into this, even being
> a daily driver.  What I'm thinking is if I could lean it out some it
> might get better gas milage , I have no clue what the mpg is, but I
> know that its not what it should be.
>
> any thoughts?

Thoughts?

BTW, Mario.......I still have your sign!
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