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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 6:55 pm
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:17 pm
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<someone.TakeThisOut@some.domain> wrote in message
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> any trick on removing the bumpers? have ne paint for desert
> burned old stuff.
> really love that mk3. non turbo, but i like the power and
> handling. want to make it spiffier.
> thanks.

You can remove just the bumper covers by removing the bolts on the underside
(IIRC, 10 mm) of the cover. After removing the bolts, lift up and unhook
the top edge.
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> In article <21c54$4646919f$47c2b532$10180@msgid.meganewsservers.com>, "Ray
> O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
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>>
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>><someone DeleteThis @some.domain> wrote in message
>>news:Vlq1i.311218$My6.167934@fe08.news.easynews.com...
>>> any trick on removing the bumpers? have ne paint for desert
>>> burned old stuff.
>>> really love that mk3. non turbo, but i like the power and
>>> handling. want to make it spiffier.
>>> thanks.
>>
>>You can remove just the bumper covers by removing the bolts on the
>>underside
>>(IIRC, 10 mm) of the cover. After removing the bolts, lift up and unhook
>>the top edge.
>
> thank you, also archived this tidbit.
> i was afraid for a while that this was a political morass.
> enough on those, already.

There is a fair bit of OT banter here, but you can filter your way to some
useful info as well Wink
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 3:36 am
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On Sat, 12 May 2007 21:30:29 +0000, someone wrote:

> any trick on removing the bumpers? have ne paint for desert burned old
> stuff.
> really love that mk3. non turbo, but i like the power and handling. want
> to make it spiffier.
> thanks.


Damn, when you find out, let ME know!
I believe you'll have to get under the car and remove bolts and retainers.
That was how my Corolla came apart.

If it's Desert Damage, you probably won't snap a lot of bolts! (GRRRRRR!)

This *might* help...

http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?Section=BO&Page=63

And here, have a TSRM on me! Wink

http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/default.aspx

Here's one for an '87, but it's not as complete:

http://www.supra.co.nz/tsrm.htm


Also, have a look at http://www.supras.com, click on SOGI, and have a look
at the Tech section. Also, register and become a member (if you can get a
second e-mail address, or get a yahoo address, since we pass info by
e-mail and sometimes the messages fly! I have mine go to a second E-Mail
addy just for that purpose!). A lot of these guys have had Supras for a
LONG time and know them inside out!

Good Luck!
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 3:55 am
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 04:31:56 GMT, someone.DeleteThis@some.domain wrote:
>"Ray O" wrote:
>><someone.DeleteThis@some.domain> wrote...

>>> any trick on removing the bumpers? have ne paint for desert
>>> burned old stuff. really love that mk3. non turbo, but i
>>> like the power and handling. want to make it spiffier.
>>> thanks.
>>
>>You can remove just the bumper covers by removing the bolts on the
>>underside (IIRC, 10 mm) of the cover. After removing the bolts,
>>lift up and unhook the top edge.

When you get the bodywork compounds and the primer/paint for
finishing the bumper, tell the paint shop what it's going to be used
for - they have special fillers and glazes for surface prep, and
special flex additives for the primer and paint.

The right paint will take minor bumps and flexing of the bumper
cover without cracking or peeling off, at least for a few years till
the flex additives bake out...

>thank you, also archived this tidbit. i was afraid for a while
>that this was a political morass. enough on those, already.

Don't worry. The discussion can veer off into the weeds of partisan
bickering at any moment after the original question has been answered.
Matter of fact, if I wanted to start it off there are several
guaranteed flame-starter comments I could throw out (and duck and
cover) - but I'll refrain. Wink

You have to learn when to bail on a thread that's gone south and hit
the "Ignore Thread" button (available on properly configured news
programs...), and you need to killfile the few trolls here with no
redeeming automotive knowledge to raise the Signal/Noise ratio. One
notable nym-shifter here will take roughly 16 entries before the noise
stops, be persistent till you get them all.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 4:30 am
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 4:30 am
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<someone RemoveThis @some.domain> wrote in message news:Ivw1i.314296$My6.64089@fe08.news.easynews.com...
> In article <hJv1i.2035$vu2.47@trndny01>, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno RemoveThis @AE86.gts> wrote:
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 12 May 2007 21:30:29 +0000, someone wrote:
>>
>>> any trick on removing the bumpers? have ne paint for desert burned old
>>> stuff.
>>> really love that mk3. non turbo, but i like the power and handling. want
>>> to make it spiffier.
>>> thanks.
>>
>>
>>Damn, when you find out, let ME know!
>>I believe you'll have to get under the car and remove bolts and retainers.
>>That was how my Corolla came apart.
>>
> mostly i was looking for tricks or caveats.
> for power, wish i had the turbo, but nitrous does give a
> kick in the ass.
> the plan is to pull the bumpers and i'm wondering if i can
> still drive it with them off. i'm waiting on the haynes but
> i do want to get moving.
> the paint was cheap. gotta love that japanese blue.
>
>>If it's Desert Damage, you probably won't snap a lot of bolts! (GRRRRRR!)
> yep, zero rust. your grrr implys wet air environment and i
> slowly combust for you.
>>
>>This *might* help...
>>
>>http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?Section=BO&Page=63
> yes, great url, we are thanking...
>>
>>And here, have a TSRM on me! Wink
>>
>>http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/default.aspx
>>
>>Here's one for an '87, but it's not as complete:
>>
>>http://www.supra.co.nz/tsrm.htm
>
> excellent. in monty burns voice.
>
>>
>>
>>Also, have a look at http://www.supras.com, click on SOGI, and have a look
>>at the Tech section. Also, register and become a member (if you can get a
>>second e-mail address, or get a yahoo address, since we pass info by
>>e-mail and sometimes the messages fly! I have mine go to a second E-Mail
>>addy just for that purpose!). A lot of these guys have had Supras for a
>>LONG time and know them inside out!
> i have 100 gmail accounts if i need. lucked out.
>>
>>Good Luck!
>>
>>
> i just archived this whole, usefull post. take a couple of
> cute bims out of petty cash and take the week off.



If you want to hot rod a Supra you really need to use the turbo
engine. They can almost double the HP with just a impeller, exhaust
and can make some serous HP on stock internals.

But when it comes right down to it my stock 7mge has more power than
it needs in the first place so I have always been happy with mine. It even
tows my little trailer with 3 ATC's piled on it without any problems at all.


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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 11:55 pm
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 04:31:56 +0000, someone wrote:

> In article <21c54$4646919f$47c2b532$10180@msgid.meganewsservers.com>, "Ray
> O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
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>
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>><someone.RemoveThis@some.domain> wrote in message
>>news:Vlq1i.311218$My6.167934@fe08.news.easynews.com...
>>> any trick on removing the bumpers? have ne paint for desert burned old
>>> stuff.
>>> really love that mk3. non turbo, but i like the power and handling.
>>> want to make it spiffier.
>>> thanks.
>>
>>You can remove just the bumper covers by removing the bolts on the
>>underside (IIRC, 10 mm) of the cover. After removing the bolts, lift up
>>and unhook the top edge.
>
> thank you, also archived this tidbit. i was afraid for a while that this
> was a political morass. enough on those, already.


LOL! Good Luck! Even I gave up and joined the fray. You will too, I bet!
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 11:55 pm
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 13:16:49 +0000, someone wrote:

>> When you get the bodywork compounds and the primer/paint for
>>finishing the bumper, tell the paint shop what it's going to be used for
>>- they have special fillers and glazes for surface prep, and special flex
>>additives for the primer and paint.
>>
> doing the one part paint with a clearcoat. all it needs is sand, prime
> bare spots and paint

ULP! No, no, no! Get some Flex Primer, or you'll be doing it again in a
couple years or less! The bumper/nose may *feel* pretty sturdy, but it
flexes, esp with heat! Sand it, primer it with a flex primer and that
should be OK, but again, only for a period.

To do it properly, you should also use a paint and a claercoat with a flex
additive in it.

I bought a 240SX that someone had painted without flex. The body looked
great, but the front and rear bumpers started crazing and flecking after 8
months.



>> The right paint will take minor bumps and flexing of the bumper
>>cover without cracking or peeling off, at least for a few years till the
>>flex additives bake out...
> yes, and the desert sun chews it up. need to get it covered before it
> turns to dust.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 11:55 pm
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On Sun, 13 May 2007 13:13:51 +0000, someone wrote:

> toyota lists a 40 hp boost for my motor. not quite double but a kick for
> sure. love the 7mge as much as the 22r. great motors.


Definitely. But, if you Google (or know what) Hachiroku is, you'll know I
think the 4A-GE is a decent engine, too! Wink
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