Volvo repair costs?

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wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm a college student with a limited budget looking to buy a car for
> school. I'm currently trying to decide between an 88 or 91 Volvo
> Wagon and an early 90's Toyota Celica, both with about 150k miles.
>
> Here's the question: Which one is likely going to cost more in
> maintnence? Is Volvo maintnence really hairy and expensive compared
> to a little Japanese car, or will it be cheaper in the long run? I'm
> really bad with cars, and have had poor luck in the past, so I'm
> looking for the most reliable ride possible for three thousand or so.
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice.

If you have the Volvo fixed at the Volvo dealer, then yes. Expensive
would be the word. But the 240 is a simple car, most any competent
mechanic can fix it. I have mine worked on at the neighborhood garage
and it costs no more than my Ford did.

I would definitely go with the 91 wagon over the 88. And I would
personally pick the Volvos over the Toyota, although no guarantee that's
a rational viewpoint. I'm 6'4" and the Volvos fit me better than
Japanese cars do.
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wrote in message

> Hello,
>
> I'm a college student with a limited budget looking to buy a car for
> school. I'm currently trying to decide between an 88 or 91 Volvo Wagon
> and an early 90's Toyota Celica, both with about 150k miles.
>
> Here's the question: Which one is likely going to cost more in
> maintnence? Is Volvo maintnence really hairy and expensive compared to
> a little Japanese car, or will it be cheaper in the long run? I'm
> really bad with cars, and have had poor luck in the past, so I'm
> looking for the most reliable ride possible for three thousand or so.
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice.

I think parts will be about the same. If the Volvo wagon (either year) is a
non turbo stick 240 you have an almost bulletproof car. And with a little
research on the Brickboard and basic tools can do lots of the work on it
yourself. If I could find a 1991 stick 240 wagon ( It is called a 245 if you
are a volvo nut) for $3000 I would snatch it up. All things being equal I
would favor the stick over the auto and the non turbo over the turbo for
simplicity and dependablility. Engine and drivetrain should be good for
about 300K miles on the B230 volvo engine.

Best of Luck
Howard
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wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm a college student with a limited budget looking to buy a car for
> school. I'm currently trying to decide between an 88 or 91 Volvo Wagon
> and an early 90's Toyota Celica, both with about 150k miles.
>
> Here's the question: Which one is likely going to cost more in
> maintnence? Is Volvo maintnence really hairy and expensive compared to
> a little Japanese car, or will it be cheaper in the long run? I'm
> really bad with cars, and have had poor luck in the past, so I'm
> looking for the most reliable ride possible for three thousand or so.
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice.
>


The Volvo will probably cost a bit more to have maintained, but if you
can do the work yourself it will be easier to work on and it will be a
much more luxurious and safer car.
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wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm a college student with a limited budget looking to buy a car for
> school. I'm currently trying to decide between an 88 or 91 Volvo Wagon
> and an early 90's Toyota Celica, both with about 150k miles.
>
> Here's the question: Which one is likely going to cost more in
> maintnence? Is Volvo maintnence really hairy and expensive compared to
> a little Japanese car, or will it be cheaper in the long run? I'm
> really bad with cars, and have had poor luck in the past, so I'm
> looking for the most reliable ride possible for three thousand or so.
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice.
>

Condition is everything. In either case you would want a thoroughly
maintained vehicle.

The wagon will be much more flexible than a Celica. Say you find a
great chair at a garage sale which will go perfectly in your dorm room
or apartment. With the wagon you are good to go, but with the Celica
not so.

Also, safety wise the Volvo of that vintage is far better than the
Celica. Today the Japanese cars mostly have gotten on the safety
engineering bandwagon, but in the 80s that wasn't true.

Parts wise the two are probably similar. Volvos of that era have pretty
good aftermarket parts support, which is the key to low parts prices
(even for dealer parts).

John
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wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm a college student with a limited budget looking to buy a car for
> school. I'm currently trying to decide between an 88 or 91 Volvo Wagon
> and an early 90's Toyota Celica, both with about 150k miles.
>
> Here's the question: Which one is likely going to cost more in
> maintnence? Is Volvo maintnence really hairy and expensive compared to
> a little Japanese car, or will it be cheaper in the long run? I'm
> really bad with cars, and have had poor luck in the past, so I'm
> looking for the most reliable ride possible for three thousand or so.
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice.
>

If both were serviced about equally well, the Celica will be the
better bet - unless it's been abused. Both cars have similar longevity,
but Toyotas tend to require less maintainance overall. Volvos are tough
and long-lived, but it would be a mistake to think that they need little
TLC to keep them going. The only advantage the Volvo would have would be
a design that's easier to work on yourself, if you have the basic skills.
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John Horner wrote:

(...)
>
> Also, safety wise the Volvo of that vintage is far better than the
> Celica. Today the Japanese cars mostly have gotten on the safety
> engineering bandwagon, but in the 80s that wasn't true.
>
> Parts wise the two are probably similar. Volvos of that era have pretty
> good aftermarket parts support, which is the key to low parts prices
> (even for dealer parts).
>
> John
>

Actually, the Celica is one of the few safe sports cars around - with
the exception of the base notchback model, it's a lot like a more
evolved P1800, with FWD after about '86. And it's worth noting that he's
talking about a '90's Celica, not an '80's model, although the late
'80's Celica GT and GTS were quite substantial cars.

I once used an '88 GTS to move a whole twin bed.
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Buy the Volvo and get a Volvo car club member to check it out for you first
..They will know what's what and save you trouble as well join a Volvo car
club beside the great company you will meet Volvo nuts who will advise where
to by your parts .I couldn't afford to run 3 Volvos if I had to buy retail
from the dealer .So a good Volvo mechanic like a small shop will save you a
fortune .Happy motoring .
"Tim McNamara" wrote in message

> In article ,
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm a college student with a limited budget looking to buy a car for
>> school. I'm currently trying to decide between an 88 or 91 Volvo
>> Wagon and an early 90's Toyota Celica, both with about 150k miles.
>>
>> Here's the question: Which one is likely going to cost more in
>> maintnence? Is Volvo maintnence really hairy and expensive compared
>> to a little Japanese car, or will it be cheaper in the long run? I'm
>> really bad with cars, and have had poor luck in the past, so I'm
>> looking for the most reliable ride possible for three thousand or so.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your advice.
>
> If you have the Volvo fixed at the Volvo dealer, then yes. Expensive
> would be the word. But the 240 is a simple car, most any competent
> mechanic can fix it. I have mine worked on at the neighborhood garage
> and it costs no more than my Ford did.
>
> I would definitely go with the 91 wagon over the 88. And I would
> personally pick the Volvos over the Toyota, although no guarantee that's
> a rational viewpoint. I'm 6'4" and the Volvos fit me better than
> Japanese cars do.
 >> Stay informed about: Volvo repair costs? 

I'll chime in with an earlier post -- the room the wagon has. For 3
grand, I don't think you're going to be cruising chicks in the Celica,
but with the wagon you can pile in the people, ice chests, beer, soda,
whatever -- plus the camping stuff or whatever you need to make a road
trip.

I don't know if Volvo ever made a "Shagging Wagon" but who's to say
there can't be one?





wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm a college student with a limited budget looking to buy a car for
> school. I'm currently trying to decide between an 88 or 91 Volvo Wagon
> and an early 90's Toyota Celica, both with about 150k miles.
>
> Here's the question: Which one is likely going to cost more in
> maintnence? Is Volvo maintnence really hairy and expensive compared to
> a little Japanese car, or will it be cheaper in the long run? I'm
> really bad with cars, and have had poor luck in the past, so I'm
> looking for the most reliable ride possible for three thousand or so.
>
> Thanks in advance for your advice.
 >> Stay informed about: Volvo repair costs? 

I have two Volvo wagons 88 and 89 Turbo with about the same mileage.
As long as you can turn a wrench and make sure the timing belt (must be
done every 50k or could ruin your engine) and in tank fuel pump (about
$500.00) has been changed in the last couple of years it should be ok.


Jamie wrote:
> I'll chime in with an earlier post -- the room the wagon has. For 3
> grand, I don't think you're going to be cruising chicks in the Celica,
> but with the wagon you can pile in the people, ice chests, beer, soda,
> whatever -- plus the camping stuff or whatever you need to make a road
> trip.
>
> I don't know if Volvo ever made a "Shagging Wagon" but who's to say
> there can't be one?
>
>
>
>
>
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm a college student with a limited budget looking to buy a car for
> > school. I'm currently trying to decide between an 88 or 91 Volvo Wagon
> > and an early 90's Toyota Celica, both with about 150k miles.
> >
> > Here's the question: Which one is likely going to cost more in
> > maintnence? Is Volvo maintnence really hairy and expensive compared to
> > a little Japanese car, or will it be cheaper in the long run? I'm
> > really bad with cars, and have had poor luck in the past, so I'm
> > looking for the most reliable ride possible for three thousand or so.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your advice.
 >> Stay informed about: Volvo repair costs? 

Knahoe wrote:
> I have two Volvo wagons 88 and 89 Turbo with about the same mileage.
> As long as you can turn a wrench and make sure the timing belt (must be
> done every 50k or could ruin your engine) and in tank fuel pump (about
> $500.00) has been changed in the last couple of years it should be ok.
>
>

The timing belt won't ruin the engine unless you have a 16V (or any of
the 5 or 6 cylinder engines) but it will leave you stranded if it
breaks. The turbo engines in particular have dished pistons so there's
quite a lot of clearance.
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$ US 500.00 Dollars to do the in tank pump for that you could do both the
main and the intank pump and labour here as our AU Dollar equals only 74.5
cents to your Dollar .So thats about $AU 650.00 boy we do have it good here
..Check with your local Volvo car club you can only win . BTW make sure they
put the Turbo pre pump in its different .Same with the main pump ,they will
work but not as well .Here down under it cost me $AU 100.00 for the cambelt
fitted or $US 75.00 labour included .





"James Sweet" wrote in message

> Knahoe wrote:
>> I have two Volvo wagons 88 and 89 Turbo with about the same mileage.
>> As long as you can turn a wrench and make sure the timing belt (must be
>> done every 50k or could ruin your engine) and in tank fuel pump (about
>> $500.00) has been changed in the last couple of years it should be ok.
>>
>
> The timing belt won't ruin the engine unless you have a 16V (or any of the
> 5 or 6 cylinder engines) but it will leave you stranded if it breaks. The
> turbo engines in particular have dished pistons so there's quite a lot of
> clearance.
 >> Stay informed about: Volvo repair costs? 

John Robertson wrote:
> $ US 500.00 Dollars to do the in tank pump for that you could do both the
> main and the intank pump and labour here as our AU Dollar equals only 74.5
> cents to your Dollar .So thats about $AU 650.00 boy we do have it good here
> .Check with your local Volvo car club you can only win . BTW make sure they
> put the Turbo pre pump in its different .Same with the main pump ,they will
> work but not as well .Here down under it cost me $AU 100.00 for the cambelt
> fitted or $US 75.00 labour included .
>
>
>
>
>
> "James Sweet" wrote in message
>
> > Knahoe wrote:
> >> I have two Volvo wagons 88 and 89 Turbo with about the same mileage.
> >> As long as you can turn a wrench and make sure the timing belt (must be
> >> done every 50k or could ruin your engine) and in tank fuel pump (about
> >> $500.00) has been changed in the last couple of years it should be ok.
> >>
> >
> > The timing belt won't ruin the engine unless you have a 16V (or any of the
> > 5 or 6 cylinder engines) but it will leave you stranded if it breaks. The
> > turbo engines in particular have dished pistons so there's quite a lot of
> > clearance.
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That was not even at a Volvo Dealership. Volvo Dealerships want really
big money to maintian your vehicles due to the failure of the New Car
Department to do better than break even over the last couple of years.
This year they were taking $10,000 US of the S-80 and could not sell
them.

While I was in the process of attempting to negotiate for a 2001 C-7
0 the salesman said "we make all our money on used cars and service".
I could not get them to go any where near what I thought was reasonable
(last time I looked the car was still there two months later) .

I have joined the Volvo club and they get a 10% discount off
outrageous. So I go to Napa or IPDUSA.com for more reasonable prices
and do the labor myself.

What does an average house go for in Australia. California is
$400,000. It kills you to make a house payment.

Greg



John Robertson wrote:
> $ US 500.00 Dollars to do the in tank pump for that you could do both the
> main and the intank pump and labour here as our AU Dollar equals only 74.5
> cents to your Dollar .So thats about $AU 650.00 boy we do have it good here
> .Check with your local Volvo car club you can only win . BTW make sure they
> put the Turbo pre pump in its different .Same with the main pump ,they will
> work but not as well .Here down under it cost me $AU 100.00 for the cambelt
> fitted or $US 75.00 labour included .
>
>
>
>
>
> "James Sweet" wrote in message
>
> > Knahoe wrote:
> >> I have two Volvo wagons 88 and 89 Turbo with about the same mileage.
> >> As long as you can turn a wrench and make sure the timing belt (must be
> >> done every 50k or could ruin your engine) and in tank fuel pump (about
> >> $500.00) has been changed in the last couple of years it should be ok.
> >>
> >
> > The timing belt won't ruin the engine unless you have a 16V (or any of the
> > 5 or 6 cylinder engines) but it will leave you stranded if it breaks. The
> > turbo engines in particular have dished pistons so there's quite a lot of
> > clearance.
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