printing problem magenta cast canon i9900

On 10/15/05 8:10 PM, in article
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" " wrote:

> I have a canon i9900 and am trying to print sRGB .jpgs onto red river
> satin paper via photoshop 7. Problem is I get a magenta cast when
> trying to use ICC profiles.
>
> Work flow is like this:
>
> 1. open .jpg in photoshop, specify sRGB working space as embedded in
> jpg (I use adobe now but these were older pictures)
> 2. print with preview
> color management:
> source space = document
> print space: rr upsatin i9900 (supplied ICC from Red River), choose
> relative colorimetric, black point compensation
> 3. click "Print"
> 4. Printer box comes up- click "properties", on main tab color
> adjustment set to "manual" and print type set to "none"
>
> Then print and the magenta cast can be seen in the preview, before even
> printing out. Monitor is calibrated. Mostly the reds and oranges have
> too much magenta. Curiously enough I don't have the problem if print
> space is set to "printer color management" but that defeats the purpose
> of using an ICC profile ..what gives?
>
Unless you did not mention everything that you do in your work flow
description I see a few possible omissions:
In the print with preview dialog are you first selecting 'page setup' and
making sure that your i9900 is the selected printer.
Then the same thing after clicking on the 'print' button.
Also, I don't see where you have selected the paper in the printer driver -
after selecting your rr paper in PS Red River probably tells you to select
something like glossy photo paper in the printer driver.
In the printer driver selections you will also need to select 'no color
management.'
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>I have a canon i9900 and am trying to print sRGB .jpgs onto red river
> satin paper via photoshop 7. Problem is I get a magenta cast when
> trying to use ICC profiles.
>
> Work flow is like this:
>
> 1. open .jpg in photoshop, specify sRGB working space as embedded in
> jpg (I use adobe now but these were older pictures)
> 2. print with preview
> color management:
> source space = document
> print space: rr upsatin i9900 (supplied ICC from Red River), choose
> relative colorimetric, black point compensation
> 3. click "Print"
> 4. Printer box comes up- click "properties", on main tab color
> adjustment set to "manual" and print type set to "none"
>
> Then print and the magenta cast can be seen in the preview, before even
> printing out. Monitor is calibrated. Mostly the reds and oranges have
> too much magenta. Curiously enough I don't have the problem if print
> space is set to "printer color management" but that defeats the purpose
> of using an ICC profile ..what gives?


Hi there.

I don't use a Canon printer, so I do not know how to set the printer
dialogues to ensure it is not Colour Managing.

A Magenta cast usually indicates double Colour Management. Once in PS and
again in the Printer.

When you stopped PS from C. Managing by selecting "Printer Management" in
the Print Space, you were then letting only the Printer do the Corrections
and were getting Correct Prints.

This confirms that CM was being applied twice, and when you changed the
workflow it was only being done once, and it was only being done in the
Printer.

I presume that somehow the Printer is now using the correct ICC Profile, or
that one of its own built in Profiles is a very close match to the Red River
one.

There are obvious dangers in this system, since you do not seem to be able
to control which Profile the Printer selects, and some change to some other
Printer setting might well cause the use of another and incorrect profile.

I have seen instructions in a previous Thread, about how to stop a Canon
Printer applying C. M., but it was much more complicated than with an Epson.
With a little luck or some perseverance on your part you may find out how to
do that, and then be able to return to letting PS do the CM, without any
interferance from the Printer..

Until then just continue letting the Printer do it, and hope it keeps
picking the correct Profile.

Roy G
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On 10/15/05 11:41 PM, in article
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" " wrote:

> Yeah, the i9900 is selected and everywhere it gives me the chance I
> have "Glossy Photo Paper" selected and ICM unchecked, Color Adjustment
> = Manual and Print Type = None. I do not see however where I can
> explicitly select 'no color management.' I thought that having ICM
> uncheck and print type None was effectively doint that.
>
I have an i9900 printer but am currently using it on a Mac (you are probably
using yours on a Windows machine). I can't imagine, however, that the
printer driver options would be that different. When printing to the i9900
clicking the print button in PS brings up the printer driver dialog box. In
that window there are numerous selectable options including Quality and
Media, Color Options, etc, etc. In the Color Options choice there should be
an additional option to select 'Color Correction - None.' If you don't find
that option I guess a Windows user will have to help out!
Chuck
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You are using double color management. Off the printer color management when
you use 3rd party paper ICC profile or any custom profile.

"Roy" wrote in message

> wrote in message
>
>>I have a canon i9900 and am trying to print sRGB .jpgs onto red river
>> satin paper via photoshop 7. Problem is I get a magenta cast when
>> trying to use ICC profiles.
>>
>> Work flow is like this:
>>
>> 1. open .jpg in photoshop, specify sRGB working space as embedded in
>> jpg (I use adobe now but these were older pictures)
>> 2. print with preview
>> color management:
>> source space = document
>> print space: rr upsatin i9900 (supplied ICC from Red River), choose
>> relative colorimetric, black point compensation
>> 3. click "Print"
>> 4. Printer box comes up- click "properties", on main tab color
>> adjustment set to "manual" and print type set to "none"
>>
>> Then print and the magenta cast can be seen in the preview, before even
>> printing out. Monitor is calibrated. Mostly the reds and oranges have
>> too much magenta. Curiously enough I don't have the problem if print
>> space is set to "printer color management" but that defeats the purpose
>> of using an ICC profile ..what gives?
>
>
> Hi there.
>
> I don't use a Canon printer, so I do not know how to set the printer
> dialogues to ensure it is not Colour Managing.
>
> A Magenta cast usually indicates double Colour Management. Once in PS and
> again in the Printer.
>
> When you stopped PS from C. Managing by selecting "Printer Management" in
> the Print Space, you were then letting only the Printer do the Corrections
> and were getting Correct Prints.
>
> This confirms that CM was being applied twice, and when you changed the
> workflow it was only being done once, and it was only being done in the
> Printer.
>
> I presume that somehow the Printer is now using the correct ICC Profile,
> or that one of its own built in Profiles is a very close match to the Red
> River one.
>
> There are obvious dangers in this system, since you do not seem to be able
> to control which Profile the Printer selects, and some change to some
> other Printer setting might well cause the use of another and incorrect
> profile.
>
> I have seen instructions in a previous Thread, about how to stop a Canon
> Printer applying C. M., but it was much more complicated than with an
> Epson. With a little luck or some perseverance on your part you may find
> out how to do that, and then be able to return to letting PS do the CM,
> without any interferance from the Printer..
>
> Until then just continue letting the Printer do it, and hope it keeps
> picking the correct Profile.
>
> Roy G
>
>
>
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