I need plans for horse drawn vehicles

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maradcliff.DeleteThis@UNLISTED.com wrote:
> I need plans for horse drawn vehicles.

A Google search for horse buggy plans turned up lots of hits, including
these:

http://www.mcinnisindustries.com/buggy.html
http://tinyurl.com/9sg9k

It'd also be pretty easy to just start building one from scratch with
some used mountain bike wheelsets - assuming you're not planning on
carrying more than a couple or three hundred pounds.

R
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Adjusted for inflation, gasoline now costs less than it did 20 years
ago.
NPR, as I remember it, said three days ago that the cost of a barrel of
oil in 1970 adjusted for inflation would be $90.00 today.
I ran my own test, remembering gasoline as $0.35 per gallon in 1958.
Adjusted for inflation, it would be slightly less than $3.00 per gallon
today.
TB
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 13:45:23 -0500, maradcliff.DeleteThis@UNLISTED.com wrote:

>I need plans for horse drawn vehicles.
>

You do realize that horse will cost more per mile than any car you
own, right? (feed, cleaning, vet, and maintenance...)

Get a bicycle! They are the most efficient form of transportation, do
not polute, are fast (once you are in shape, a bicycle can be almost
as fast as a car), low cost, low maintanance, etc. I probably bicycle
twice as many miles every week than I drive.
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> <maradcliff.RemoveThis@UNLISTED.com> wrote:

> I need plans for horse drawn vehicles.

> I live in a rural area, and am about 5 miles from town.

First I would make sure that you can legally drive that horse
into that town and park it at the store.

Here in Canada there is a guy in the Maritimes fighting a community
that doesn't want him coming into town on horseback and riding
the horse through the drive through of the local Tim Hortons.

Instead of getting a camera crew out and taping him buying his
double double and having the corporation turning it into a commercial
the local manager has pressed charges against the individual because
of the horse patties that get left behind.

I believe the horse owner has been to court once and is fighting for
his right to ride the horse into town.

Out here in Alberta if my feeble mind is correct we had a similar
situation some years ago of someone who wanted to ride his horse into
the closest town and would tie it up to a parking meter while he went
into a pub for a beer.

GOOD LUCK.... I think it would be interesting if someone took their car
or van and hitched it up to a team of horses and went for a ride into
town on the freeways.... just like people had to do in the depression.

Perhaps you might consider just gutting an old hulk of everything
that's not necessary......That would make more of an impression than
a cute looking or quaint horse drawn vehicle.

How about an old 1960 Volkswagen beetle. or Chevy Bel Air.
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Hmmmm.

Yes, I stand corrected.

But there is still the issue of the horse needing to understand some
fairly complex engineering principles. For example, to the horse,
square wheels would probably seem a very good idea. Also, the plans the
horse draws will probably call for humans to pull it, and horse to ride
in it.

I'm sorry, but I must insist that the OP would be better off getting
his vehicle specifications drawn up by a human. Horse drawn vehicles
are simply too impracticle to be feasible.
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impracticle?

Holy hell.
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maradcliff.RemoveThis@UNLISTED.com wrote:
> Therefore, I am looking for plans to build a horse drawn vehicle out
> of wood and the axel and wheels/tires from one of the old farm
> implements I got laying around. Does anyone know where to get some
> plans?

Use the best pneumatic tire trailer running gear you can get.

Be kind to your horse and your spine.

Welded steel tube makes for a lightweight frame for a small horsedrawn
vehicle.

....Brock.
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<maradcliff DeleteThis @UNLISTED.com> wrote in message

>
> Therefore, I am looking for plans to build a horse drawn vehicle out
> of wood and the axel and wheels/tires from one of the old farm
> implements I got laying around. Does anyone know where to get some
> plans?
>
> This message may not be exactly on topic to some of the newsgroups I
> am posting to, but is related.

The Amish still use carriages. You may be able to find information in an
Amish area and even buy some of the parts you need.

http://www.mcinnisindustries.com/buggy_nf.html

http://www.motherearthnews.com/library/1974_November_December/Our_Alte...tive_Tr
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<maradcliff.RemoveThis@UNLISTED.com> wrote in message
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> I need plans for horse drawn vehicles.
>
> I am serious about this. With gas being in the $2.50 to $3.00 a
> gallon range, and likely to get much higher, I am looking for ways to
> avoid having to buy the stuff. I have already done all the usual
> things, such as tune up the car, properly inflate tires, use the car
> (which gets better milage), than the pickup truck, whenever possible,
> and avoid unnecessary trips to the store, etc.
>
> All of this helps, but I want to cut back even more. Not only is my
> wallet suffering, but I am real tired of supporting these corrupt oil
> companies who are raping us financially. If oil is in low supply, why
> not limit us, rather then continually raising the price. I already
> know that limiting gas would not affect most average drivers, but
> would only affect those who waste gas with "performance" cars, large
> gas guzzling boats, and other unnecessary machinery.
>
> Anyhow, my point in this message is not to discuss oil prices, but
> rather to find alternatives to using it. I already own horses, which
> until now were pets and for recreational riding. But in the past,
> before motorized vehicles, people relied on their horses for
> transportation. I think this is going to become a reality again for
> many of us. While I realize I will have to continue to pay these
> crooks for their oil if I need to travel distances, I know that half
> of my gasoline usage is for short trips to town. This is where a
> horse drawn vehicle would help. Whether it's a trip to the grocery
> store, or any other short trip to town, I can use the horse. I live
> in a rural area, and am about 5 miles from town. This is an ideal
> distance for a horse drawn vehicle, and a total 10 mile per day trip
> is not too much for the horse, and seems like it would be enjoyable
> too.
>
> Therefore, I am looking for plans to build a horse drawn vehicle out
> of wood and the axel and wheels/tires from one of the old farm
> implements I got laying around. Does anyone know where to get some
> plans?
>
> This message may not be exactly on topic to some of the newsgroups I
> am posting to, but is related.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mark
>

Assuming for a moment that you are serious, please consider all the
excellent posts to date. I will repeat only one of them. Gas is a lot
cheaper than feeding a horse.

Now on to reality 101. Horses that are saddle broken are generally not
harness broken or trained. They frequently do not have the physical stature
to pull. There are riding horses, work horses and carriage horses. The
latter two are somewhat interchangeable.

The carriage will be the least of your expenses in money or time. The
harnesses will be expensive and must be maintained with frequent care and
oiling. Rivets and tears must be replaced and you will need a nice dry
place to store all this stuff. The time required to harness your horse(s)
will add 1-1/12 hours to each trip you take and if you are a responsible
owner another hour per trip to care for your horse.

Colbyt
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<Jimmy DeleteThis @the.shoppe> wrote in message
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> On 14 Aug 2005 14:44:48 -0700, tbasc DeleteThis @bellsouth.net wrote:
>
>>Adjusted for inflation, gasoline now costs less than it did 20 years
>>ago.
>>NPR, as I remember it, said three days ago that the cost of a barrel of
>>oil in 1970 adjusted for inflation would be $90.00 today.
>>I ran my own test, remembering gasoline as $0.35 per gallon in 1958.
>>Adjusted for inflation, it would be slightly less than $3.00 per gallon
>>today.
>
> Doesn't matter. All that matters is how long did you have to work in 1970
> to buy
> a gallon of gas and how long do you have to work now.

When I started driving in 1963 gas was about 25¢ and minimum wage was about
!.37 per hour. An hour at minimum wage bought 5.48 gallons Good wages in
a factory were about $4. skilled or management was about $5. Wages are
maybe 6X that time, if that is true, gas should be $1.50. Minimum wage
today buys 3 gallons.
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"Matt" <mattmorgan64 DeleteThis @msn.com> wrote in message
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> Horses can't draw.
>

You've never watched Mr. Ed, have you?
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