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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:55 pm
Post subject: Need a second opinion...
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Hi folks,
I recently installed a new intake manifold (1500 sp, Brazilian) after I
gave up trying to clear the heat riser pipes on the original. Long
story short, engine is back in car and now I find that I can't get
the stock air cleaner back on as the carb top is slightly too close to
the fan housing (by about 5-6mm). Its been suggested to me that I might
be able to bend it back some using a steel pipe down the throat of the
manifold and some carefully applied pressure. I'd really like a
second opinion on this before I risk doing some damage - am I likely
to get away with it? Do I risk breaking the manifold to head studs?
Manifold is bolted down to both heads and exhaust.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:40 pm
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Thanks guys, suspected as much - I stand dissuaded.
What an incredible PITA though! I snapped off a 6mm steel cable inside
my original manifold trying to ream the bugger out and then when I fit
a new, clear one, the air cleaner won't fit back on but of course I
only realise this after the engine's reinstalled. Its just not FAIR!!!
The engine runs waaay better with clear heat risers too (I can actually
fit the stock air-cleaner back on but backwards because of the offset
but it brings me out in a rash just looking at it and I can't connect
the air pre-heat hose or the oil breather hose). This is just so
frustrating, this should be the easy bit!
My options now are, I guess, remove manifold and take it somewhere for
alignment (I don't have access to appropriate tools myself). Or, try
and find an original, German manifold with clear(ed) heat risers
(prectically impossible it seems). Or, have my first manifold cut,
cleared and rewelded (yuck!). Or, find another, German, manifold and
try again to clear the heat risers (double yuck!!).
Someone should be recycling and selling these - I would pay quite a bit
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:40 pm
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Thanks guys, suspected as much - I stand dissuaded.
What an incredible PITA though! I snapped off a 6mm steel cable inside
my original manifold trying to ream the bugger out and then when I fit
a new, clear one, the air cleaner won't fit back on but of course I
only realise this after the engine's reinstalled. Its just not FAIR!!!
The engine runs waaay better with clear heat risers too (I can actually
fit the stock air-cleaner back on but backwards because of the offset
but it brings me out in a rash just looking at it and I can't connect
the air pre-heat hose or the oil breather hose). This is just so
frustrating, this should be the easy bit!
My options now are, I guess, remove manifold and take it somewhere for
alignment (I don't have access to appropriate tools myself). Or, try
and find an original, German manifold with clear(ed) heat risers
(prectically impossible it seems). Or, have my first manifold cut,
cleared and rewelded (yuck!). Or, find another, German, manifold and
try again to clear the heat risers (double yuck!!).
Someone should be recycling and selling these - I would pay quite a bit
for one. >> Stay informed about: Need a second opinion... |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:40 pm
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Thanks guys, suspected as much - I stand dissuaded.
What an incredible PITA though! I snapped off a 6mm steel cable inside
my original manifold trying to ream the bugger out and then when I fit
a new, clear one, the air cleaner won't fit back on but of course I
only realise this after the engine's reinstalled. Its just not FAIR!!!
The engine runs waaay better with clear heat risers too (I can actually
fit the stock air-cleaner back on but backwards because of the offset
but it brings me out in a rash just looking at it and I can't connect
the air pre-heat hose or the oil breather hose). This is just so
frustrating, this should be the easy bit!
My options now are, I guess, remove manifold and take it somewhere for
alignment (I don't have access to appropriate tools myself). Or, try
and find an original, German manifold with clear(ed) heat risers
(prectically impossible it seems). Or, have my first manifold cut,
cleared and rewelded (yuck!). Or, find another, German, manifold and
try again to clear the heat risers (double yuck!!).
Someone should be recycling and selling these - I would pay quite a bit
for one. >> Stay informed about: Need a second opinion... |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:40 pm
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Thanks guys, suspected as much - I stand dissuaded.
What an incredible PITA though! I snapped off a 6mm steel cable inside
my original manifold trying to ream the bugger out and then when I fit
a new, clear one, the air cleaner won't fit back on but of course I
only realise this after the engine's reinstalled. Its just not FAIR!!!
The engine runs waaay better with clear heat risers too (I can actually
fit the stock air-cleaner back on but backwards because of the offset
but it brings me out in a rash just looking at it and I can't connect
the air pre-heat hose or the oil breather hose). This is just so
frustrating, this should be the easy bit!
My options now are, I guess, remove manifold and take it somewhere for
alignment (I don't have access to appropriate tools myself). Or, try
and find an original, German manifold with clear(ed) heat risers
(prectically impossible it seems). Or, have my first manifold cut,
cleared and rewelded (yuck!). Or, find another, German, manifold and
try again to clear the heat risers (double yuck!!).
Someone should be recycling and selling these - I would pay quite a bit
for one. >> Stay informed about: Need a second opinion... |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:40 pm
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Thanks guys, suspected as much - I stand dissuaded.
What an incredible PITA though! I snapped off a 6mm steel cable inside
my original manifold trying to ream the bugger out and then when I fit
a new, clear one, the air cleaner won't fit back on but of course I
only realise this after the engine's reinstalled. Its just not FAIR!!!
The engine runs waaay better with clear heat risers too (I can actually
fit the stock air-cleaner back on but backwards because of the offset
but it brings me out in a rash just looking at it and I can't connect
the air pre-heat hose or the oil breather hose). This is just so
frustrating, this should be the easy bit!
My options now are, I guess, remove manifold and take it somewhere for
alignment (I don't have access to appropriate tools myself). Or, try
and find an original, German manifold with clear(ed) heat risers
(prectically impossible it seems). Or, have my first manifold cut,
cleared and rewelded (yuck!). Or, find another, German, manifold and
try again to clear the heat risers (double yuck!!).
Someone should be recycling and selling these - I would pay quite a bit
for one. >> Stay informed about: Need a second opinion... |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:40 pm
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Thanks guys, suspected as much - I stand dissuaded.
What an incredible PITA though! I snapped off a 6mm steel cable inside
my original manifold trying to ream the bugger out and then when I fit
a new, clear one, the air cleaner won't fit back on but of course I
only realise this after the engine's reinstalled. Its just not FAIR!!!
The engine runs waaay better with clear heat risers too (I can actually
fit the stock air-cleaner back on but backwards because of the offset
but it brings me out in a rash just looking at it and I can't connect
the air pre-heat hose or the oil breather hose). This is just so
frustrating, this should be the easy bit!
My options now are, I guess, remove manifold and take it somewhere for
alignment (I don't have access to appropriate tools myself). Or, try
and find an original, German manifold with clear(ed) heat risers
(prectically impossible it seems). Or, have my first manifold cut,
cleared and rewelded (yuck!). Or, find another, German, manifold and
try again to clear the heat risers (double yuck!!).
Someone should be recycling and selling these - I would pay quite a bit
for one. >> Stay informed about: Need a second opinion... |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:20 pm
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> PLAN "B"
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> Make a "custom" gasket between the carb base and manifold
> riser flange. This gasket will have a slightly tapered
> profile such that it "tilts" the carb back at a comfortable angle 
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> I think one could do it in an evening with nothing
> more than a big ass rasp.
Hmmmmmm...
What effect might an even slightly tilted carb have on the level of
fuel in the float chamber or indeed oil in the aircleaner? Or are you
meaning more of an 'offset' type of gasket; does such a thing exist?
What could one use as a starting point to fabricate one? >> Stay informed about: Need a second opinion... |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:20 pm
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> PLAN "B"
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> Make a "custom" gasket between the carb base and manifold
> riser flange. This gasket will have a slightly tapered
> profile such that it "tilts" the carb back at a comfortable angle
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> I think one could do it in an evening with nothing
> more than a big ass rasp.
Hmmmmmm...
What effect might an even slightly tilted carb have on the level of
fuel in the float chamber or indeed oil in the aircleaner? Or are you
meaning more of an 'offset' type of gasket; does such a thing exist?
What could one use as a starting point to fabricate one? >> Stay informed about: Need a second opinion... |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:20 pm
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> PLAN "B"
>
> Make a "custom" gasket between the carb base and manifold
> riser flange. This gasket will have a slightly tapered
> profile such that it "tilts" the carb back at a comfortable angle
>
> I think one could do it in an evening with nothing
> more than a big ass rasp.
Hmmmmmm...
What effect might an even slightly tilted carb have on the level of
fuel in the float chamber or indeed oil in the aircleaner? Or are you
meaning more of an 'offset' type of gasket; does such a thing exist?
What could one use as a starting point to fabricate one? >> Stay informed about: Need a second opinion... |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:20 pm
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> PLAN "B"
>
> Make a "custom" gasket between the carb base and manifold
> riser flange. This gasket will have a slightly tapered
> profile such that it "tilts" the carb back at a comfortable angle
>
> I think one could do it in an evening with nothing
> more than a big ass rasp.
Hmmmmmm...
What effect might an even slightly tilted carb have on the level of
fuel in the float chamber or indeed oil in the aircleaner? Or are you
meaning more of an 'offset' type of gasket; does such a thing exist?
What could one use as a starting point to fabricate one? >> Stay informed about: Need a second opinion... |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:20 pm
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> PLAN "B"
>
> Make a "custom" gasket between the carb base and manifold
> riser flange. This gasket will have a slightly tapered
> profile such that it "tilts" the carb back at a comfortable angle
>
> I think one could do it in an evening with nothing
> more than a big ass rasp.
Hmmmmmm...
What effect might an even slightly tilted carb have on the level of
fuel in the float chamber or indeed oil in the aircleaner? Or are you
meaning more of an 'offset' type of gasket; does such a thing exist?
What could one use as a starting point to fabricate one? >> Stay informed about: Need a second opinion... |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:20 pm
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> PLAN "B"
>
> Make a "custom" gasket between the carb base and manifold
> riser flange. This gasket will have a slightly tapered
> profile such that it "tilts" the carb back at a comfortable angle
>
> I think one could do it in an evening with nothing
> more than a big ass rasp.
Hmmmmmm...
What effect might an even slightly tilted carb have on the level of
fuel in the float chamber or indeed oil in the aircleaner? Or are you
meaning more of an 'offset' type of gasket; does such a thing exist?
What could one use as a starting point to fabricate one? >> Stay informed about: Need a second opinion... |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:30 pm
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Dangermouse wrote:
> > PLAN "B"
> >
> > Make a "custom" gasket between the carb base and manifold
> > riser flange. This gasket will have a slightly tapered
> > profile such that it "tilts" the carb back at a comfortable angle
> >
> > I think one could do it in an evening with nothing
> > more than a big ass rasp.
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> Hmmmmmm...
>
> What effect might an even slightly tilted carb have on the level of
> fuel in the float chamber or indeed oil in the aircleaner? Or are you
> meaning more of an 'offset' type of gasket; does such a thing exist?
> What could one use as a starting point to fabricate one?
Plan C.
Get a different air cleaner.
Randy >> Stay informed about: Need a second opinion... |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:30 pm
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Dangermouse wrote:
> > PLAN "B"
> >
> > Make a "custom" gasket between the carb base and manifold
> > riser flange. This gasket will have a slightly tapered
> > profile such that it "tilts" the carb back at a comfortable angle
> >
> > I think one could do it in an evening with nothing
> > more than a big ass rasp.
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>
> Hmmmmmm...
>
> What effect might an even slightly tilted carb have on the level of
> fuel in the float chamber or indeed oil in the aircleaner? Or are you
> meaning more of an 'offset' type of gasket; does such a thing exist?
> What could one use as a starting point to fabricate one?
Plan C.
Get a different air cleaner.
Randy >> Stay informed about: Need a second opinion... |
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