oil consumption in new 2007 A4 2.0T Quatro

On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 17:32:53 +0100, "Huw"
<hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

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>"Roscoe P Pendoscoe" <mrshade DeleteThis @I_wont_see_it.net> wrote in message
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>Drive it reasonably hard otherwise the bores will glaze. This is an issue
>with every brand of quality engine which have very hard bore finish and very
>hard piston rings. These engines should be run-in under load and the first
>oil should not be changed sooner than 5000 miles.
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>Huw
>

It has vastly improved and yes I did drive fairly hard but no redline
shifts. 5K on the tach or a little more as that is what tech at dealer
told me was a safe point. I asked the salesman to point me at a tech
that was really bright and had some good knowledge he'd part with
beforehand.

I do understand the hard bore and ring issue but little can on dash at
such low miles is something to make you nervous. And of course I would
add oil when needed albeit not happily if it kept up at it's original
thirsty rate.

7400 miles now and is getting much better than before.

Regards,

RP





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In message <8uvg735a79nipoebf153ifrb874dfpiqfo.RemoveThis@4ax.com>, Roscoe P
Pendoscoe <mrshade.RemoveThis@I_wont_see_it.net> writes
>7400 miles now and is getting much better than before.

Thanks for the feedback. So many times I've read complaints about a
car, particularly when it's a new one, only to be followed by deafening
silence after someone has pitched in with reasoned advice.

It's nice to hear the outcome, especially when it's good news.

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"Dave N" <nospam.RemoveThis@charlecote.org.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <8uvg735a79nipoebf153ifrb874dfpiqfo.RemoveThis@4ax.com>, Roscoe P
> Pendoscoe <mrshade.RemoveThis@I_wont_see_it.net> writes
>>7400 miles now and is getting much better than before.
>
> Thanks for the feedback. So many times I've read complaints about a car,
> particularly when it's a new one, only to be followed by deafening silence
> after someone has pitched in with reasoned advice.
>
> It's nice to hear the outcome, especially when it's good news.
>

I'll second that. Thanks for the feedback.
It is difficult to run an engine under load if used mainly on flat
freeflowing roads. I don't have that problem as I live in a very undulating
area with mainly small twisty roads with a reasonable amount of traffic. I
am not afraid to drive a new quality car [or truck or tractor or any other
quality engine] reasonably hard.
It is likely that your engine will continue to improve in performance
[albeit subtly] and reduce its consumption of oil if you continue or
increasingly give it some hard work. Once it stabilises it will probably
last for a few hundred thousand miles before noticeable wear. I have a
friend who exceeded 200,000 miles in his Allroad with oil changes every
20,000 hard miles in just over three years. Engine was a peach and didn't
use a drop of oil when he sold it because he was tired driving the same car
and was in need of a change. I wouldn't run a 20000 mile schedule personally
and can see why people brainwashed to accept 3000 miles as normal throw up
their hands in horror. I hit a psychological barrier at 15,000 miles for no
good reason. I know why VW/Audi have that first 5000 mile service in the USA
and it is not because it is needed for the engine. Mine has done 10,000
already and it consumes none of its original oil fill and has never been
topped up.

Treated with the same driving style I have never had an engine that consumed
any oil except an old Land Rover which was a model noted for using oil
anyhow. Up until the very last year that one used about a quart between 5000
mile oil changes. It finally wore out after 24 years this January.
I hope that my new Audi [and yours] gives such sterling service.

Maybe the oil will have almost run out by then and we will be driving
Flintstone style.

Huw
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In message <5e0frvF364om7U1 RemoveThis @mid.individual.net>, Huw
<hedydd@[nospam].invalid> writes
>It is likely that your engine will continue to improve in performance
>[albeit subtly] and reduce its consumption of oil if you continue or
>increasingly give it some hard work. Once it stabilises it will probably
>last for a few hundred thousand miles before noticeable wear. I have a
>friend who exceeded 200,000 miles in his Allroad with oil changes every
>20,000 hard miles in just over three years. Engine was a peach and didn't
>use a drop of oil when he sold it because he was tired driving the same car
>and was in need of a change. I wouldn't run a 20000 mile schedule personally
>and can see why people brainwashed to accept 3000 miles as normal throw up
>their hands in horror. I hit a psychological barrier at 15,000 miles for no
>good reason. I know why VW/Audi have that first 5000 mile service in the USA
>and it is not because it is needed for the engine. Mine has done 10,000
>already and it consumes none of its original oil fill and has never been
>topped up.

I agree entirely with your view and the advice that you gave, but I fear
that you will find yourself at the receiving end of a lot of flaming. It
just so happens that my own experience reflects that of Roscoe; an
initial high use of oil which dropped off dramatically as the miles
increased, and since about 12000 miles it has been negligible.

Reading this group and other forums has made me realise that oil
changing intervals have become almost a matter of religious creed for
many people, especially for many in the USA for some non-obvious reason.
I am not an automobile engineer or a materials scientist so my starting
point has to be to what the manufacturer recommends. If I am to deviate
significantly from their published recommendations (servicing handbook),
then it should be for reasons based upon evidence of bad advice from the
manufacturer, not hearsay.

>Maybe the oil will have almost run out by then and we will be driving
>Flintstone style.

You really do like flirting with danger, don't you?

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As an ASC, I feel compelled to let you in on a little secret.
Here's the issue: (Just don't tell anyone I told you
The late generation 2006 to current models of the 2.0T A3's and A4's
have lately been coming back with -excessive oil consumption issues-. I
know what you're talking about.
The common cause for this problem is the Intake Flap Runner being stuck
open, which causes oil to leak in and burn off. This is not bad for the
enigne, however your -oil level- will decrease dramatically. Audi has
sent out Technical Bulletins regarding this problem. The solution is to
replace this part under Warranty if the problem occurs. HOWEVER, this is
not a _\"Recall\"_ or _\"Campaign_Action\"_ as we call it. It's merely a
solution to a minor ongoing problem with certain cars. The problem
hasn't come up enough for Audi to consider this a Recall. (Like the
spoiler addition for downforce on the 1st generation TT's. -That- was a
recall.) That being said, Audi is working on a solution to this
problem.
If the problem persists, the next step is to perform an -"Oil
consumption Test"-. If your oil light comes on, DO NOT add oil. Go to
your dealer and tell them abouthe problem. If your Flap Runner was
already replaced, they'll do one of these tests. It's a -two part- test.
The second part occurs in approx 1,000km after you went in the first
time with the complaint. Basiaclly, results are compaired from both
tests (before & after) and if any acton is needed further from the test,
your Dealer will take the appropriate action.[Result may vary with
driving habits and vehilce condition, including tuned vehicles.]
Anyway I hope this sheds some light on your problem, and rest assured
Audi is working on it for you!

P.S. Audi's "Oil Min" warning and Dip Sticks are constructed and set
for an EARLY NOTIFICATION. Meaning, you've got lots of time before it
causes damage to your engine. (UNLESS your oil pan is pissing and you're
bone dry, but you'd be able to tell if that was the case now wouldn't
you?) Anyway, If your oil light comes on, you still got about 4 - 4.5
litres of oil in your car. If your dip stick is at the MIN you got about
3.5 - 4.0 litres of oil in your car. Don't be afraid. But see your
Dealer right way!


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