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Allnews

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:55 pm
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Realize this is a bit off topic, but want to buy long lasting tires (I put
lots of mileage) that are quiet too.
Placing them on my '05 Accord. Original Michelin were very quiet but
HORRIBLE in rain and I got very little mileage out of these.
Torn btw. harmony & hydroedge. Hydroedge reportedly has higher mileage but
more noise, especially as it wears...
Any recommendations?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:54 am
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"Allnews" <spamenot.TakeThisOut@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
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> Realize this is a bit off topic, but want to buy long lasting tires (I put
> lots of mileage) that are quiet too.
> Placing them on my '05 Accord. Original Michelin were very quiet but
> HORRIBLE in rain and I got very little mileage out of these.
> Torn btw. harmony & hydroedge. Hydroedge reportedly has higher mileage
> but more noise, especially as it wears...
> Any recommendations?
>

If 60000 miles is enough for you, look into the Bridgestone Turanza LS-H.
Don't expect great snow performance, but in all other wet dry conditions,
these are excellent. A bit pricey, so shop around.


Bob

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:55 pm
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:38:02 GMT, "Allnews" <spamenot RemoveThis @nbnet.nb.ca>
wrote:

>Realize this is a bit off topic, but want to buy long lasting tires (I put
>lots of mileage) that are quiet too.
>Placing them on my '05 Accord. Original Michelin were very quiet but
>HORRIBLE in rain and I got very little mileage out of these.
>Torn btw. harmony & hydroedge. Hydroedge reportedly has higher mileage but
>more noise, especially as it wears...
>Any recommendations?
>

I've got Harmonys on a '94 Toyota Pickup. I don't think I'll drive
them down to the wear bars as I do some serious commuting. However
they will probably give me 65-70k miles. I've had no traction
problems with them and I drive them hard in the rain on occasion. As
far as noise, I know our Civic is bad for road noise so I don't what
if anything you can do about that. They aren't noisy on my truck.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 7:55 pm
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"Allnews" <spamenot.DeleteThis@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote in message
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> Realize this is a bit off topic, but want to buy long lasting tires (I put
> lots of mileage) that are quiet too.
> Placing them on my '05 Accord. Original Michelin were very quiet but
> HORRIBLE in rain and I got very little mileage out of these.
> Torn btw. harmony & hydroedge. Hydroedge reportedly has higher mileage
> but more noise, especially as it wears...
> Any recommendations?

I was wondering if the Hydroedge were a quiet tire myself. I had the
Harmony tires on my '01 Accord and I got 120,000 km on them before they were
down to the tread wear marks.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:55 pm
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:38:02 GMT, "Allnews" <spamenot.RemoveThis@nbnet.nb.ca>
wrote:

>Realize this is a bit off topic, but want to buy long lasting tires (I put
>lots of mileage) that are quiet too.
>Placing them on my '05 Accord. Original Michelin were very quiet but
>HORRIBLE in rain and I got very little mileage out of these.
>Torn btw. harmony & hydroedge. Hydroedge reportedly has higher mileage but
>more noise, especially as it wears...

Yah, drove my newish 2007 Accord EX in the rain for about the first
time the other day (it never rains in southern California), and
noticed the poor traction. Tires on previous Accord, most recently
2004, did much better, I think, and were still solid past 45k miles.

I know that's no help to you know, just concurring on the observation.
Must have changed something between 2004 and 2005.

J.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:33 pm
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Allnews wrote:
> Realize this is a bit off topic, but want to buy long lasting tires (I put
> lots of mileage) that are quiet too.
> Placing them on my '05 Accord. Original Michelin were very quiet but
> HORRIBLE in rain and I got very little mileage out of these.
> Torn btw. harmony & hydroedge. Hydroedge reportedly has higher mileage but
> more noise, especially as it wears...
> Any recommendations?
>
>
i found hydroedge to be a brutally harsh ride in a 2000 civic. great in
all other respects though.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:02 am
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rjdriver wrote:
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> If 60000 miles is enough for you, look into the Bridgestone Turanza LS-H.
> Don't expect great snow performance, but in all other wet dry conditions,
> these are excellent. A bit pricey, so shop around.

I have Turanza LS-T tires on my '88 Civic and I got 70,000 mi out of my last
set (I'm now on my 2nd set). They do fine in the rain but not in the snow.
For that I have a set of snow tires on an extra set of rims to swap over for
the 2 or 3 times a year I might need them.

Eric
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:15 am
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On Mar 29, 9:38 pm, "Allnews" <spame....DeleteThis@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
> Realize this is a bit off topic, but want to buy long lasting tires (I put
> lots of mileage) that are quiet too.
> Placing them on my '05 Accord. Original Michelin were very quiet but
> HORRIBLE in rain and I got very little mileage out of these.
> Torn btw. harmony & hydroedge. Hydroedge reportedly has higher mileage but
> more noise, especially as it wears...
> Any recommendations?

My suggestion is not to worry about the "long lasting" part but
concentrate on the performance aspects that are important to you. You
can use the Tire Rack's survey results for that type of analysis (be
sure to read the user comments as they often provide good information
on how the tires perform on different types of cars). My experience
with long lasting tires is that after several years their performance
begins to suffer in significant ways regardless of how much tread is
left. I'd have been better off buying higher performance tires with a
warranty of 40,000 to 60,000 miles than paying for the 70,000 to
80,000 mile warranty. In the overall cost of auto upkeep, tires are
really cheap - buy the best you can afford. Perhaps the Michelin Pilot
Exalto A/S or Bridgestone Potenza Pole Position or the Goodyear
Assurance TripleTred depending upon your driving style.

YMMV
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:49 am
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"ACAR" <getoutanpush.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 29, 9:38 pm, "Allnews" <spame....TakeThisOut@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:
>> Realize this is a bit off topic, but want to buy long lasting tires (I
>> put
>> lots of mileage) that are quiet too.
>> Placing them on my '05 Accord. Original Michelin were very quiet but
>> HORRIBLE in rain and I got very little mileage out of these.
>> Torn btw. harmony & hydroedge. Hydroedge reportedly has higher mileage
>> but
>> more noise, especially as it wears...
>> Any recommendations?
>
> My suggestion is not to worry about the "long lasting" part but
> concentrate on the performance aspects that are important to you. You
> can use the Tire Rack's survey results for that type of analysis (be
> sure to read the user comments as they often provide good information
> on how the tires perform on different types of cars). My experience
> with long lasting tires is that after several years their performance
> begins to suffer in significant ways regardless of how much tread is
> left. I'd have been better off buying higher performance tires with a
> warranty of 40,000 to 60,000 miles than paying for the 70,000 to
> 80,000 mile warranty. In the overall cost of auto upkeep, tires are
> really cheap - buy the best you can afford. Perhaps the Michelin Pilot
> Exalto A/S or Bridgestone Potenza Pole Position or the Goodyear
> Assurance TripleTred depending upon your driving style.
>
> YMMV


I was thinking the exact thing with the Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S, but
comparing them with the Bridgestone Potenza RE960. I've tried a couple sets
of the Potenza RE950s on my old car, and have never had a better tire in the
rain. Excellent, along with dry. Snow was not good, but worked in light
snow. I hear the RE960s which replaced them are better.

My '05 Accord LX has the OEM Michelin Energy, and agree - they have a LOT to
be desired.
Agree - www.tirerack.com - excellent source for reader surveys and test
track reviews.

-Dave
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:24 pm
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Hi : I switched from Harmonies to Hydroedge on both my '92 and '04
Accords a couple of years ago. Bottom line is that I LOVE the
Hydroedge, both in terms of performance and relative quietness. I did
not experience much of the dreaded extra noise at all, but I did
notice that my wet weather handling felt much safer and more
controlled. I was at 6 mm tread on my Harmonies when I switched, but
those tires were still too scary for me in the rain. Too many
hydroplaning incidents througout the life of the Harmonies. Virtually
none since I switched to Hydroedge. One caveat: Hydroedge is not the
best tire in ice and snow!!! In that department, I felt obligated to
go to a dedicated winter tire for here in sourthern Ontario, and so
now use the Michelin X-Ice starting in November. One thing that really
helps me is to get a four wheel alignment every March when I switch
back to the Hydroedge. - Paul

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:38:02 GMT, "Allnews" <spamenot.DeleteThis@nbnet.nb.ca>
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>Realize this is a bit off topic, but want to buy long lasting tires (I put
>lots of mileage) that are quiet too.
>Placing them on my '05 Accord. Original Michelin were very quiet but
>HORRIBLE in rain and I got very little mileage out of these.
>Torn btw. harmony & hydroedge. Hydroedge reportedly has higher mileage but
>more noise, especially as it wears...
>Any recommendations?
>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:55 pm
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Allnews wrote:
> Realize this is a bit off topic, but want to buy long lasting tires
> (I put lots of mileage) that are quiet too.
> Placing them on my '05 Accord. Original Michelin were very quiet but
> HORRIBLE in rain and I got very little mileage out of these.
> Torn btw. harmony & hydroedge. Hydroedge reportedly has higher
> mileage but more noise, especially as it wears...
> Any recommendations?

I have 30k on my original tires of my '04 Accord, and they look like they
can go another 30k.
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