How long would a diesel hybrid last?

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On Jul 18, 10:20 am, "Willy" <w....RemoveThis@prodigy.net> wrote:
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> > From what I've been hearing the Prius should theoretically last longer
> > than a normal gas car because the gas engine is run at optimal rpm's,
> > the transmission has less moving parts and the electric engine lasts
> > practically forever. If this is true, I wonder how long a diesel Prius
> > would last?
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> > One other question. I heard that toyota was not going to make a diesel
> > hybrid because of the cost. If the jump in efficiency from gas only to
> > hybrid was worth the extra cost, why not gas hybrid to diesel hybrid?
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> Volkswagen is rumored to have plans to introduce exactly that for 2010. I
> just plunked down a deposit for an 09 Jetta TDI that will deliver 45-50
> MPG
> on the highway with no batteries to contend with. My reason for not
> considering a Prius is that I drive 50-100K a year, and I just couldn't
> imagine replacing batteries in one year. The Jetta super green TDI diesel
> (the only diesel automobile in America approved in all 50 states) could
> easily deliver 250-300K without a hiccup.

I wish someone would make a small pickup that gets 35-40 mpg. Over the
last few years pickups have gotten bigger and bigger. The Tacomas and
Nissans are now classified as mid sized. I don't care whether it's
diesel or hybrid, I'm just tired of getting in the low 20s mpg. I
don't need to haul a lot of weight but trucks are so damn convenient
for carrying things like bikes, canoes, rug doctors, etc, etc.




I do too, and I think the solution will be a diesel version in a small pick
up - and rumor has it we'll be seeing those from several mfg's in the next
two years.

Willy
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"Tomes" <ask.me DeleteThis @here.net> wrote in message
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> "Willy" ...
>> Volkswagen is rumored to have plans to introduce exactly that for 2010.
>> I just plunked down a deposit for an 09 Jetta TDI that will deliver 45-50
>> MPG on the highway with no batteries to contend with. My reason for not
>> considering a Prius is that I drive 50-100K a year, and I just couldn't
>> imagine replacing batteries in one year. The Jetta super green TDI
>> diesel (the only diesel automobile in America approved in all 50 states)
>> could easily deliver 250-300K without a hiccup.
>>
>> The next few years are going to be "interesting" to say the least for the
>> auto industry.
>>
> Why would you need to replace the batteries after 50K miles? There are
> Prii with over 200K miles in service as taxis that are doing just fine.
> Tomes


At 100K a year, and with anticipated battery life (based on what I've read,
which is perhaps speculation) of 100K miles, I would need to replace the
batteries once a year.

Willy
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"Willy" <wesk.TakeThisOut@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> "Tomes" <ask.me.TakeThisOut@here.net> wrote...
>> "Willy" ...
>>> Volkswagen is rumored to have plans to introduce exactly that for 2010.
>>> I just plunked down a deposit for an 09 Jetta TDI that will deliver
>>> 45-50 MPG on the highway with no batteries to contend with. My reason
>>> for not considering a Prius is that I drive 50-100K a year, and I just
>>> couldn't imagine replacing batteries in one year. The Jetta super green
>>> TDI diesel (the only diesel automobile in America approved in all 50
>>> states) could easily deliver 250-300K without a hiccup.
>>>
>>> The next few years are going to be "interesting" to say the least for
>>> the auto industry.
>>>
>> Why would you need to replace the batteries after 50K miles? There are
>> Prii with over 200K miles in service as taxis that are doing just fine.
>> Tomes
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> At 100K a year, and with anticipated battery life (based on what I've
> read, which is perhaps speculation) of 100K miles, I would need to replace
> the batteries once a year.
>
It is speculation that has not manifested itself.
Tomes
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>
> I can Hemi-foot my Mercury Grand Marquis and get it up over 90 mph on
> just the V8. But I have not done this as a real test to see exactly
> how fast I can get it to go on just the V8.
>
> Jack
>
I have stuck the foot in a 1966 Corvette 427/L88 on the back straight
at Watkins Glen to get 157 MPH (6800 RPM)...try that in your Prius.

This is from
a current Highlander Hybrid owner...I can get the Highlander up to about
40 MPH before the computer says "burn gasoline"! But again this is really
something to do only without any traffic around.
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>> "Tomes" <ask.me.RemoveThis@here.net> wrote...
>>> "Willy" ...
>>>> Volkswagen is rumored to have plans to introduce exactly that for 2010.
>>>> I just plunked down a deposit for an 09 Jetta TDI that will deliver
>>>> 45-50 MPG on the highway with no batteries to contend with. My reason
>>>> for not considering a Prius is that I drive 50-100K a year, and I just
>>>> couldn't imagine replacing batteries in one year. The Jetta super
>>>> green TDI diesel (the only diesel automobile in America approved in all
>>>> 50 states) could easily deliver 250-300K without a hiccup.
>>>>
>>>> The next few years are going to be "interesting" to say the least for
>>>> the auto industry.
>>>>
>>> Why would you need to replace the batteries after 50K miles? There are
>>> Prii with over 200K miles in service as taxis that are doing just fine.
>>> Tomes
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>> At 100K a year, and with anticipated battery life (based on what I've
>> read, which is perhaps speculation) of 100K miles, I would need to
>> replace the batteries once a year.
>>
> It is speculation that has not manifested itself.
> Tomes



I suppose it's "too soon to tell". But I did read an article, I think in
USA Today, but not sure about that--- anyhow, it said that battery
replacement is a very real concern, and as a result, in the near future, we
should start seeing "lease" options on the batteries. you would buy the car
without batteries per se, and lease the batteries.

The article also pointed out that when the batteries reach the end of their
usable life in a car, they still have around 85% life remaining for other
applications. The article did not however point out what those "other
applications" might be.

Willy
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