is250 vs. 325i

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In article <elmop-E6C5D5.13431614082006.RemoveThis@nntp3.usenetserver.com>,
Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop.RemoveThis@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> Now *try* to find a Honda or Toyota, either low brand or high brand, no
> matter how old, with non-working tail lights. Good luck.

You're saying the bulbs never blow on Japanese cars? They must be
different Hondas and Toyotas we get in London...

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 >> Stay informed about: is250 vs. 325i 

"Richard Sexton" <richard.TakeThisOut@news.vrx.net> wrote in message
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> In article <elmop-1994C1.19244414082006.TakeThisOut@nntp3.usenetserver.com>,
> Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop.TakeThisOut@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> >In article <ebqhek$qhm$2@news.datemas.de>,
> > richard.TakeThisOut@news.vrx.net (Richard Sexton) wrote:
> >
> >> >screams something way different than a Corolla...)
> >>
> >> Yeah it screams "look at me I look a lot like a Mercedes
> >> but use even more expsneive Toyota parts that aren't
> >> engineered to last decades". What a deal.
> >
> >Ah. As opposed to even more expensive Mercedes parts that aren't
> >engineered to last any more than a few years.
> >
> >Face it--M-B ain't what it used to be.
>
> I'll be the first to admit that, I don't have much confidence in the new
> cars. But if you can afford a Maybach you probably don't care.
>
> I did see an old 240Z yeterday but the point remains you don't see many
> old Japanese cars. I imagine getting parts for them might be an issue but
> I'm just guessing.
>
> Ironically the motor in that 240Z is a copy of the MB 6 from that era.
>
Actually, the old 240Z from 1970-73 had a 2.4 liter engine that was
bulletproof. It was a larger version of the engine used in the old Datsun
510 (1968-73). The main problem with those old Datsuns wasn't the engine or
lack of parts, but that the steel body on them were so thin that most rusted
out, even here in California.

In general, Toyota/Lexus may be a bit more reliable than BMW. However, you
buy a BMW for the way it drives. If you don't notice a difference or can't
appreciate it, then get the Toyota.

Btw, if you look under the hood of a Lexus, most parts say Toyota, so yes,
it is a TOYOTA!
 >> Stay informed about: is250 vs. 325i 

Some years ago I used to receive the monthly mag of the ADAC, the largest
German motorists' organization (equivalent to UK's AA but many more members
and, I suppose the USA's AAA), quite regularly. Once a year they would
publish their breakdown/rescue stats, which made interesting reading. Only
brands that sold more than 10 000 cars per year were included.

It was a very rough-and-ready table but put three Japanese brands at the top
(seemingly most reliable) in every class they were represented. I recall
Mazda and Toyota - maybe Honda was the third.

Thing is, the results were not normalised for usage. Thus Merc S-Class
performed relatively poorly in these tables but what was omitted was the
fact that such cars tended to be very high-mileage vehicles.

Make of it what you will.

DAS

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"Richard Sexton" <richard.RemoveThis@news.vrx.net> wrote in message
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[...]

> Yeah it screams "look at me I look a lot like a Mercedes
> but use even more expsneive Toyota parts that aren't
> engineered to last decades". What a deal.
>
>
> --
> Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org
> Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org
> 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net
> 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net
 >> Stay informed about: is250 vs. 325i 

I would forget the IS 250 and 325I and look at the IS 350 and 330I. I went
through the same decision and ended up with the IS 350. The 330I was a very
nice looking car and had the best ride of anything that I have driven, but
the IS 350 has lots of power and lots of cool gadgets. The IS 350 also has
a very good ride, and since I spend most of my driving time stuck in
traffic, the curve handling performance is not important.


It is also cool to turn on the Power button, disable the VDIM, and smoke
your tires in the IS 350!


"Robert A. Cibiras" <Cibiras.TakeThisOut@BellSouth.net> wrote in message
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>I am interested in trading my Acura TL, and have narrowed the most likely
>possible replacements to the Lexus is250 and the BMW 325i, both with manual
>transmission.
>
> I am interested in whatever input anyone might have. I have owned a number
> of Toyotas over the years, but no Lexus and no BMW.
>
> I have heard that Lexus takes Toyota's quality and attention to detail to
> the next level, and that in the long run BMW is very expensive to
> maintain. I have friends who own both - and swear they wouldn't drive
> anything else.
>
> Suggestions, pros, cons, all info would be appreciated.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Robert
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: is250 vs. 325i 

In article <elmop-0EEA68.19262414082006.DeleteThis@nntp3.usenetserver.com>,
Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop.DeleteThis@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>In article <ebqh79$qhm$1@news.datemas.de>,
> richard.DeleteThis@news.vrx.net (Richard Sexton) wrote:
>
>> Try buying a German car that's not thrashed. I've had new Japanese cars
>> and old German cars and the Germans cars have been far far cheaper to
>

No, that's been my experience. You may not agree. That's ok
reaosnable people disagree all the time.


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Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org
Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org
1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net
633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net
 >> Stay informed about: is250 vs. 325i 

In article <elmop-1994C1.19244414082006.RemoveThis@nntp3.usenetserver.com>,
Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop.RemoveThis@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>In article <ebqhek$qhm$2@news.datemas.de>,
> richard.RemoveThis@news.vrx.net (Richard Sexton) wrote:
>
>> >screams something way different than a Corolla...)
>>
>> Yeah it screams "look at me I look a lot like a Mercedes
>> but use even more expsneive Toyota parts that aren't
>> engineered to last decades". What a deal.
>
>Ah. As opposed to even more expensive Mercedes parts that aren't
>engineered to last any more than a few years.
>
>Face it--M-B ain't what it used to be.

I'll be the first to admit that, I don't have much confidence in the new
cars. But if you can afford a Maybach you probably don't care.

I did see an old 240Z yeterday but the point remains you don't see many
old Japanese cars. I imagine getting parts for them might be an issue but
I'm just guessing.

Ironically the motor in that 240Z is a copy of the MB 6 from that era.

Copy copy copy.


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Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org
Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org
1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net
633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net
 >> Stay informed about: is250 vs. 325i 

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E Brown wrote:

>
>
> According to Edmunds.com, the cost per mile for the 2003 Lexus IS
> 300 is .60 cents, while a 2003 330i is .63 cents, averaged over 5
> years of ownership while driving 15,000 miles/year.
> epbrown

....which, considering the method of acquiring the data, is statistically
insignificant.


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 >> Stay informed about: is250 vs. 325i 

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <elmop-E6C5D5.13431614082006 DeleteThis @nntp3.usenetserver.com>,
> Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop DeleteThis @nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>>Now *try* to find a Honda or Toyota, either low brand or high brand, no
>>matter how old, with non-working tail lights. Good luck.
>
>
> You're saying the bulbs never blow on Japanese cars? They must be
> different Hondas and Toyotas we get in London...
>

well, actually, now-a-days they don't use bulbs at all. L.E.D.s

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-Fred W
 >> Stay informed about: is250 vs. 325i 

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <OKudncuGaNowpXzZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d.TakeThisOut@comcast.com>,
> "bfd" <bfd853.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Btw, if you look under the hood of a Lexus, most parts say Toyota, so yes,
>>it is a TOYOTA!
>
>
> Look under the hood of a Benz and the parts all say Daimler-Chrysler.
>
> So they're nothing but Chryslers. Interesting...
>

Yeah. What's your point? Does this somehow relate to a BMW?

Good thing most of us in the lexus and bmw newsgroups don't give a rats
behind about MBs...

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-Fred W
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Robert A. Cibiras wrote:
> I am interested in trading my Acura TL, and have
> narrowed the most likely possible replacements to
> the Lexus is250 and the BMW 325i, both with manual
> transmission.

Go with the Lexus. Trust me. If I had it to do over
again, I would never have bought this German car.
I will NEVER buy another German car.

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