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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:13 pm
Post subject: is250 vs. 325i  Add to elertz
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I am interested in trading my Acura TL, and have
narrowed the most likely possible replacements to
the Lexus is250 and the BMW 325i, both with manual
transmission.
I am interested in whatever input anyone might
have. I have owned a number of Toyotas over the
years, but no Lexus and no BMW.
I have heard that Lexus takes Toyota's quality and
attention to detail to the next level, and that in
the long run BMW is very expensive to maintain. I
have friends who own both - and swear they
wouldn't drive anything else.
Suggestions, pros, cons, all info would be
appreciated.
Many thanks.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:13 pm
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"Robert A. Cibiras" <Cibiras.DeleteThis@BellSouth.net> wrote
>I am interested in trading my Acura TL, and have narrowed the most likely
>possible replacements to the Lexus is250 and the BMW 325i, both with manual
>transmission.
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> I am interested in whatever input anyone might have. I have owned a number
> of Toyotas over the years, but no Lexus and no BMW.
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> I have heard that Lexus takes Toyota's quality and attention to detail to
> the next level, and that in the long run BMW is very expensive to
> maintain. I have friends who own both - and swear they wouldn't drive
> anything else.
I don't know why people say that BMWs are expensive to maintain.
The Camry that I bought my mom has cost about the same as my 330xi.
Some parts for my T100 cost *MORE* than the same part for my 330xi -
for instance the starter solenoid went out and the entire starter had to be
replaced; the O2 sensor is TWICE as expensive as those on BMWs.
My wife's Highlander has more often maintenance intervals; in aggregate
they cost what it does for my 330xi. And the maintenance on the BMW
is free for 4yrs/50K.
YMMV.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:31 am
Post subject: Re: is250 vs. 325i Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 04:13:09 UTC, "Robert A. Cibiras"
<Cibiras.DeleteThis@BellSouth.net> wrote:
> I am interested in trading my Acura TL, and have
> narrowed the most likely possible replacements to
> the Lexus is250 and the BMW 325i, both with manual
> transmission.
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> I am interested in whatever input anyone might
> have. I have owned a number of Toyotas over the
> years, but no Lexus and no BMW.
>
I have an 02 manual transmission IS300. From what I understand about
the IS250-350, they are fast cars, but not particularly sporty (seems
to be a Lexus characteristic, unfortunately). the BMW is probably
going to be a bit more of a "driver's car" but from everything I've
read, the Lexus will be the more reliable of the two by far. >> Stay informed about: is250 vs. 325i |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:51 am
Post subject: Re: is250 vs. 325i Add to elertz [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Robert A. Cibiras" <Cibiras RemoveThis @BellSouth.net> wrote in message
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>I am interested in trading my Acura TL, and have narrowed the most likely
>possible replacements to the Lexus is250 and the BMW 325i, both with manual
>transmission.
>
> I am interested in whatever input anyone might have. I have owned a number
> of Toyotas over the years, but no Lexus and no BMW.
>
> I have heard that Lexus takes Toyota's quality and attention to detail to
> the next level, and that in the long run BMW is very expensive to
> maintain. I have friends who own both - and swear they wouldn't drive
> anything else.
>
> Suggestions, pros, cons, all info would be appreciated.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Robert
>
If you're looking at those two particular cars you are, evidently, intersted
in the driving dynamics. If that's the case, I'd choose the BMW.
If all you are interested in is reliability, pick the Lexus (or any other
driving appliance). >> Stay informed about: is250 vs. 325i |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:21 am
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Floyd Rogers wrote:
> "Robert A. Cibiras" <Cibiras DeleteThis @BellSouth.net> wrote
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>>I am interested in trading my Acura TL, and have narrowed the most likely
>>possible replacements to the Lexus is250 and the BMW 325i, both with manual
>>transmission.
>>
>>I am interested in whatever input anyone might have. I have owned a number
>>of Toyotas over the years, but no Lexus and no BMW.
>>
>>I have heard that Lexus takes Toyota's quality and attention to detail to
>>the next level, and that in the long run BMW is very expensive to
>>maintain. I have friends who own both - and swear they wouldn't drive
>>anything else.
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> I don't know why people say that BMWs are expensive to maintain.
> The Camry that I bought my mom has cost about the same as my 330xi.
> Some parts for my T100 cost *MORE* than the same part for my 330xi -
> for instance the starter solenoid went out and the entire starter had to be
> replaced; the O2 sensor is TWICE as expensive as those on BMWs.
> My wife's Highlander has more often maintenance intervals; in aggregate
> they cost what it does for my 330xi. And the maintenance on the BMW
> is free for 4yrs/50K.
....in the US.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:26 am
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joe_tide wrote:
> "Robert A. Cibiras" <Cibiras DeleteThis @BellSouth.net> wrote in message
> news:tJSDg.14912$vj1.12683@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
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>>I am interested in trading my Acura TL, and have narrowed the most likely
>>possible replacements to the Lexus is250 and the BMW 325i, both with manual
>>transmission.
>>
>>I am interested in whatever input anyone might have. I have owned a number
>>of Toyotas over the years, but no Lexus and no BMW.
>>
>>I have heard that Lexus takes Toyota's quality and attention to detail to
>>the next level, and that in the long run BMW is very expensive to
>>maintain. I have friends who own both - and swear they wouldn't drive
>>anything else.
>>
>>Suggestions, pros, cons, all info would be appreciated.
>>
>>Many thanks.
>>
>>Robert
>>
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>
> If you're looking at those two particular cars you are, evidently, intersted
> in the driving dynamics. If that's the case, I'd choose the BMW.
>
> If all you are interested in is reliability, pick the Lexus (or any other
> driving appliance).
>
>
I would not go quite that far... I think that a prior poster got it
right. The BMW is a better driver's car. The Lexus will be a softer
ride (mushy) and marginally more reliable. If talking new cars, the
maintenance on the BMW will be covered under warranty. But even for
cars out-of-warranty I would not expect to save much with the reliable
Lexus.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:07 am
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:54 am
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <uc6dnZ0h3KaY533ZnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d.RemoveThis@adelphia.com>,
> Fred W <Malt_Hound@*spam-me-not*yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>The BMW is a better driver's car. The Lexus will be a softer
>>ride (mushy) and marginally more reliable.
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> The Lexus will be infinitely more reliable.
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define infinitely...
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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop.DeleteThis@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
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> In article <ebq4lh$v23$2@news.datemas.de>,
> richard.DeleteThis@news.vrx.net (Richard Sexton) wrote:
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>> Yeah. Plus chicks really dig toyotas.
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> I don't want women who base their choice of a man by what he drives.
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> (The Lexus isn't a toyota; it's made by Toyota, sure, but an SC400
> screams something way different than a Corolla...)
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Speaking of SC400's, I had two of them and I really miss them. Too bad Lexus
couldn't have continued them. I understand about "progress" and all, but I
sure miss them! >> Stay informed about: is250 vs. 325i |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:22 pm
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In article <12e00m2tombnhdb RemoveThis @corp.supernews.com>,
Floyd Rogers <fbloogyuds RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>I don't know why people say that BMWs are expensive to maintain.
This is the way my father in law explained it to me 30 years ago: "the
Germans are quite up front about maintenance costs. The Japanese want you
to believe their cars are cheaspre cheap to maintain but in reality they cost
about the same".
Volvo parts seem the be THE most expensive.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 3:25 pm
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In article <elmop-6CA77A.10075014082006.TakeThisOut@nntp3.usenetserver.com>,
Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop.TakeThisOut@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>In article <uc6dnZ0h3KaY533ZnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d.TakeThisOut@adelphia.com>,
> Fred W <Malt_Hound@*spam-me-not*yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> The BMW is a better driver's car. The Lexus will be a softer
>> ride (mushy) and marginally more reliable.
>
>The Lexus will be infinitely more reliable.
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Yeah. Plus chicks really dig toyotas.
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633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net >> Stay informed about: is250 vs. 325i |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:55 pm
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On Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:38:17 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop DeleteThis @nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>In article <ebq4g4$v23$1@news.datemas.de>,
> richard DeleteThis @news.vrx.net (Richard Sexton) wrote:
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>> >I don't know why people say that BMWs are expensive to maintain.
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>> This is the way my father in law explained it to me 30 years ago: "the
>> Germans are quite up front about maintenance costs. The Japanese want you
>> to believe their cars are cheaspre cheap to maintain but in reality they cost
>> about the same".
>
>Not true.
According to Edmunds.com, the cost per mile for the 2003 Lexus IS
300 is .60 cents, while a 2003 330i is .63 cents, averaged over 5
years of ownership while driving 15,000 miles/year.
epbrown
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2003 BMW 325i Black/Black, 2003 BMW Z4 Black/Black >> Stay informed about: is250 vs. 325i |
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