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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:45 am
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SWMBO was driving to work today when there was 'a bang and a cloud of
smoke' and a 'bit of a loss of power, but it drove OK, but there's a
funny noise'
2 x AA men have looked so far
1) Clutch has gone and hit gear box (! nice to know they are as ever
well trained. Last one I had refused to take anything off the bike as
'fairings can break')
2) Gearbox is gone. Not quite sure how it can be 'gone' since it still
changes gear and she managed to drive OK for several miles.
My money is on either bearing or gear disintegration.
Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
Prace Bets now
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 6:27 pm
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My 156 2.0 TS lunched 5th gear...very unpleasant. The bearing looked
like it had collapsed and that allowed enough movement for the gears to
strip...all the swarf jammed the box. Had to have the gearbox stripped,
gear and associated bits changed, a new clutch put in (since it was all
in bits anyway) and rebuilt...£1000, but there was a lot of damage and
it took a lot of labour time. Independent garage too. On the plus side,
the car drove better than it ever had before!
Good luck and hope it's not as serious.
Catman wrote:
> SWMBO was driving to work today when there was 'a bang and a cloud of
> smoke' and a 'bit of a loss of power, but it drove OK, but there's a
> funny noise'
>
> 2 x AA men have looked so far
> 1) Clutch has gone and hit gear box (! nice to know they are as ever
> well trained. Last one I had refused to take anything off the bike as
> 'fairings can break')
> 2) Gearbox is gone. Not quite sure how it can be 'gone' since it still
> changes gear and she managed to drive OK for several miles.
>
> My money is on either bearing or gear disintegration.
>
> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
> Prace Bets now |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:39 pm
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Eddie Bermuda wrote:
> My 156 2.0 TS lunched 5th gear...very unpleasant. The bearing looked
> like it had collapsed and that allowed enough movement for the gears to
> strip...all the swarf jammed the box. Had to have the gearbox stripped,
> gear and associated bits changed, a new clutch put in (since it was all
> in bits anyway) and rebuilt...£1000, but there was a lot of damage and
> it took a lot of labour time. Independent garage too. On the plus side,
> the car drove better than it ever had before!
>
> Good luck and hope it's not as serious.
Cheers. Can't see it coming in much less than a grand TBH
>
> Catman wrote:
>> SWMBO was driving to work today when there was 'a bang and a cloud of
>> smoke' and a 'bit of a loss of power, but it drove OK, but there's a
>> funny noise'
>>
>> 2 x AA men have looked so far
>> 1) Clutch has gone and hit gear box (! nice to know they are as ever
>> well trained. Last one I had refused to take anything off the bike as
>> 'fairings can break')
>> 2) Gearbox is gone. Not quite sure how it can be 'gone' since it
>> still changes gear and she managed to drive OK for several miles.
>>
>> My money is on either bearing or gear disintegration.
>>
>> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
>> Prace Bets now
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:51 am
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I ended up spending about £1750 on it to get the gearbox fixed, radiator
fixed, and the front suspension fixed...then traded it in three months
later and got £2500 for it (against a GT)...
It's only money...
Catman wrote:
> Eddie Bermuda wrote:
>> My 156 2.0 TS lunched 5th gear...very unpleasant. The bearing looked
>> like it had collapsed and that allowed enough movement for the gears
>> to strip...all the swarf jammed the box. Had to have the gearbox
>> stripped, gear and associated bits changed, a new clutch put in (since
>> it was all in bits anyway) and rebuilt...£1000, but there was a lot of
>> damage and it took a lot of labour time. Independent garage too. On
>> the plus side, the car drove better than it ever had before!
>>
>> Good luck and hope it's not as serious.
>
> Cheers. Can't see it coming in much less than a grand TBH
>
>>
>> Catman wrote:
>>> SWMBO was driving to work today when there was 'a bang and a cloud of
>>> smoke' and a 'bit of a loss of power, but it drove OK, but there's a
>>> funny noise'
>>>
>>> 2 x AA men have looked so far
>>> 1) Clutch has gone and hit gear box (! nice to know they are as ever
>>> well trained. Last one I had refused to take anything off the bike as
>>> 'fairings can break')
>>> 2) Gearbox is gone. Not quite sure how it can be 'gone' since it
>>> still changes gear and she managed to drive OK for several miles.
>>>
>>> My money is on either bearing or gear disintegration.
>>>
>>> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
>>> Prace Bets now
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:43 am
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Eddie Bermuda wrote:
> I ended up spending about £1750 on it to get the gearbox fixed, radiator
> fixed, and the front suspension fixed...then traded it in three months
> later and got £2500 for it (against a GT)...
>
> It's only money...
Indeed
C
>
> Catman wrote:
>> Eddie Bermuda wrote:
>>> My 156 2.0 TS lunched 5th gear...very unpleasant. The bearing looked
>>> like it had collapsed and that allowed enough movement for the gears
>>> to strip...all the swarf jammed the box. Had to have the gearbox
>>> stripped, gear and associated bits changed, a new clutch put in
>>> (since it was all in bits anyway) and rebuilt...£1000, but there was
>>> a lot of damage and it took a lot of labour time. Independent garage
>>> too. On the plus side, the car drove better than it ever had before!
>>>
>>> Good luck and hope it's not as serious.
>>
>> Cheers. Can't see it coming in much less than a grand TBH
>>
>>>
>>> Catman wrote:
>>>> SWMBO was driving to work today when there was 'a bang and a cloud
>>>> of smoke' and a 'bit of a loss of power, but it drove OK, but
>>>> there's a funny noise'
>>>>
>>>> 2 x AA men have looked so far
>>>> 1) Clutch has gone and hit gear box (! nice to know they are as ever
>>>> well trained. Last one I had refused to take anything off the bike
>>>> as 'fairings can break')
>>>> 2) Gearbox is gone. Not quite sure how it can be 'gone' since it
>>>> still changes gear and she managed to drive OK for several miles.
>>>>
>>>> My money is on either bearing or gear disintegration.
>>>>
>>>> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
>>>> Prace Bets now
>>
>>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:38 pm
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Catman <catman.DeleteThis@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
> SWMBO was driving to work today when there was 'a bang and a cloud of
> smoke' and a 'bit of a loss of power, but it drove OK, but there's a
> funny noise'
>
> 2 x AA men have looked so far
> 1) Clutch has gone and hit gear box (! nice to know they are as ever
> well trained. Last one I had refused to take anything off the bike as
> 'fairings can break')
> 2) Gearbox is gone. Not quite sure how it can be 'gone' since it still
> changes gear and she managed to drive OK for several miles.
>
> My money is on either bearing or gear disintegration.
>
> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
> Prace Bets now
50 - 100 quid for a second hand box.
Plus the cost of a new clutch (may as well do it whilst the box is
dropped)
4 hours labour.
I dunno - 400 quid, tops?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:10 pm
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SteveH wrote:
> Catman <catman.TakeThisOut@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> SWMBO was driving to work today when there was 'a bang and a cloud of
>> smoke' and a 'bit of a loss of power, but it drove OK, but there's a
>> funny noise'
>>
>> 2 x AA men have looked so far
>> 1) Clutch has gone and hit gear box (! nice to know they are as ever
>> well trained. Last one I had refused to take anything off the bike as
>> 'fairings can break')
>> 2) Gearbox is gone. Not quite sure how it can be 'gone' since it still
>> changes gear and she managed to drive OK for several miles.
>>
>> My money is on either bearing or gear disintegration.
>>
>> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
>> Prace Bets now
>
> 50 - 100 quid for a second hand box.
>
> Plus the cost of a new clutch (may as well do it whilst the box is
> dropped)
>
> 4 hours labour.
>
> I dunno - 400 quid, tops?
Sounds wonderfully optimistic 
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:12 pm
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Catman <catman.RemoveThis@rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
> >> Prace Bets now
> >
> > 50 - 100 quid for a second hand box.
> >
> > Plus the cost of a new clutch (may as well do it whilst the box is
> > dropped)
> >
> > 4 hours labour.
> >
> > I dunno - 400 quid, tops?
>
> Sounds wonderfully optimistic
Well, if it's just box internals, then I reckon I'm not far off.
All depends on labour rates, I suppose - but when my 33 chewed it's diff
bearings, I had it swapped for 75 quid, on top of the box, which cost me
another 75.
When the 75 box did the same, I had it rebuilt with parts from my 2
spares for 500 quid.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 4:15 pm
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"SteveH" <steve RemoveThis @italiancar.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1ie5rhm.ugxgvi1h50w9qN%steve@italiancar.co.uk...
> Catman <catman RemoveThis @rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> >> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
>> >> Prace Bets now
>> >
>> > 50 - 100 quid for a second hand box.
>> >
>> > Plus the cost of a new clutch (may as well do it whilst the box is
>> > dropped)
>> >
>> > 4 hours labour.
>> >
>> > I dunno - 400 quid, tops?
>>
>> Sounds wonderfully optimistic
>
> Well, if it's just box internals, then I reckon I'm not far off.
>
> All depends on labour rates, I suppose - but when my 33 chewed it's diff
> bearings, I had it swapped for 75 quid, on top of the box, which cost me
> another 75.
>
> When the 75 box did the same, I had it rebuilt with parts from my 2
> spares for 500 quid.
I wouldn't have time or know how. If my PC does the equivalent of blowing a
head, or chewing its own gearbox, then sleeves up and here we go, but not
cars - I understand them, but would never trust my work if I tried things
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GT <ContactGT_remove_.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Well, if it's just box internals, then I reckon I'm not far off.
> >
> > All depends on labour rates, I suppose - but when my 33 chewed it's diff
> > bearings, I had it swapped for 75 quid, on top of the box, which cost me
> > another 75.
> >
> > When the 75 box did the same, I had it rebuilt with parts from my 2
> > spares for 500 quid.
>
> I wouldn't have time or know how. If my PC does the equivalent of blowing a
> head, or chewing its own gearbox, then sleeves up and here we go, but not
> cars - I understand them, but would never trust my work if I tried things
> myself! Trouble is, the PC is cheaper to repair!
I didn't do it myself.... I got a man in 
Local gearbox specialist took the 2 used boxes from me, removed the
knackered one from the car and built a good one from all 3, using new
bearings where appropriate, though.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:59 pm
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SteveH wrote:
> Catman <catman RemoveThis @rustcuore-sportivo.co.uk> wrote:
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>>>> Other theories? Hideous cost projections?
>>>> Prace Bets now
>>> 50 - 100 quid for a second hand box.
>>>
>>> Plus the cost of a new clutch (may as well do it whilst the box is
>>> dropped)
>>>
>>> 4 hours labour.
>>>
>>> I dunno - 400 quid, tops?
>> Sounds wonderfully optimistic
>
> Well, if it's just box internals, then I reckon I'm not far off.
>
> All depends on labour rates, I suppose - but when my 33 chewed it's diff
> bearings, I had it swapped for 75 quid, on top of the box, which cost me
> another 75.
>
> When the 75 box did the same, I had it rebuilt with parts from my 2
> spares for 500 quid.
Groovy
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