Someone please help!!

<clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 23 May 2008 08:56:04 -0700, "ScottM" <no.DeleteThis@no.com> wrote:
>
>>What about that 3rd CAT trick? ANYONE ever heard of doing that and is it
>>legal?
>>I'm curious as hell bout that one...
>>
>>p.s. for the record I would through an O2 at it in a heartbeat first.
>>
>>
>>"cmanke" <none.DeleteThis@000.com> wrote in message
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>>> My 1996 Ford Windstar has failed aircare due to high NOx emissions. I
>>> have already tried the stupid tricks that BTW, DON'T WORK. Anyway,
>>> the mechanic told me it's the cat converter. He also told me it will
>>> be $900 for me to fix it.
>>>
>>> His explanation was that FORD has put two cat converters into the
>>> windstar and that the Universal cat converter cannot be installed. He
>>> said there was actually room for a third cat converter that he could
>>> install and that would be $200 plus labour...seems a little fishy to
>>> me to install a third to clean up what the two aren't doing, but w/e.
>>>
>>> Apparently he has cleaned up the valves (something to do with the
>>> EGR), that the EGR itself was fine and my Ox sensors were also working
>>> fine. It has to be the cat converter he says.
>>>
>>> So now, I am a mother with 4 children 6 and under and NO VEHICLE
>>> because I can't pass aircare and I have a mechanic who wants to mark
>>> up the parts my van needs. Can someone please tell me if the
>>> universal cat converter can actually be installed (if it can't then
>>> why would they make it?!?!?!). It's a 3.8L, automatic transmission,
>>> a/c 1996 Ford Windstar.
>>
> I've heard of it, and it is legal. So is putting a cat on a vehicle
> that never had one.
> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

How can you say it's legal when you don't even know where the OP lives? Or
did I miss that? Where does she live? Please excuse me if I missed
that.

On Fri, 23 May 2008 22:43:32 -0700, "Forrest"
<REMOVETHISrunforrest1.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>
><clare at snyder dot ontario dot canada> wrote in message
>news:9i1f34ln0vuuevrbkjmeutgi3c3gprupt1@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 23 May 2008 08:56:04 -0700, "ScottM" <no.DeleteThis@no.com> wrote:
>>
>>>What about that 3rd CAT trick? ANYONE ever heard of doing that and is it
>>>legal?
>>>I'm curious as hell bout that one...
>>>
>>>p.s. for the record I would through an O2 at it in a heartbeat first.
>>>
>>>
>>>"cmanke" <none.DeleteThis@000.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1203373_16d8a0216689f50c4c2cca3cc2c0c9c0@0000.com...
>>>> My 1996 Ford Windstar has failed aircare due to high NOx emissions. I
>>>> have already tried the stupid tricks that BTW, DON'T WORK. Anyway,
>>>> the mechanic told me it's the cat converter. He also told me it will
>>>> be $900 for me to fix it.
>>>>
>>>> His explanation was that FORD has put two cat converters into the
>>>> windstar and that the Universal cat converter cannot be installed. He
>>>> said there was actually room for a third cat converter that he could
>>>> install and that would be $200 plus labour...seems a little fishy to
>>>> me to install a third to clean up what the two aren't doing, but w/e.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently he has cleaned up the valves (something to do with the
>>>> EGR), that the EGR itself was fine and my Ox sensors were also working
>>>> fine. It has to be the cat converter he says.
>>>>
>>>> So now, I am a mother with 4 children 6 and under and NO VEHICLE
>>>> because I can't pass aircare and I have a mechanic who wants to mark
>>>> up the parts my van needs. Can someone please tell me if the
>>>> universal cat converter can actually be installed (if it can't then
>>>> why would they make it?!?!?!). It's a 3.8L, automatic transmission,
>>>> a/c 1996 Ford Windstar.
>>>
>> I've heard of it, and it is legal. So is putting a cat on a vehicle
>> that never had one.
>> ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
>
>How can you say it's legal when you don't even know where the OP lives? Or
>did I miss that? Where does she live? Please excuse me if I missed
>that.
>
Well, here in Ontario it is legal. And we have mandatory biannual
emmission tests. It is illegal to remove any emmission device. It is
technically illegal to modify an emission device. There is nothing on
the books saying you cannot ADD an emmission control device.You can
use aftermarket (universal fit) cats here too - although my luck with
them has not been terribly good.
Anything that makes it pass is fair game - but I'd be replacing the
original if at all possible.
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