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On Jan 24, 5:21 am, HT <hung... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> I've recently had my 2000 VW refusing to start for me. 2 mornings in
> a row ( where it was pretty cold -21 degrees celcius). I took it down
> to the dealer, and they checked for power drain, battery, alternator,
> and couldn't find anything. I've left it there for a couple of days,
> and apparently it started each time they tried it.
>
> Thoughts? The battery is pretty new, about 1.5 year sold; from VW;
> and I haven't had any installed that would affect the electrical
> system (no new radio or anything like that - wiper blades don't count,
> lol.)
>
> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Details, please: no cranking? Slow cranking? Cranking but no firing?
Cranking but not enough firing to start? Gas or diesel?

Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Non sequitur. Your ACKS are
Grid: CN89mg uncoordinated."
ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Nomad the Network Engineer
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HT wrote:
> I've recently had my 2000 VW refusing to start for me. 2 mornings in
> a row ( where it was pretty cold -21 degrees celcius). I took it down
> to the dealer, and they checked for power drain, battery, alternator,
> and couldn't find anything. I've left it there for a couple of days,
> and apparently it started each time they tried it.
>
> Thoughts? The battery is pretty new, about 1.5 year sold; from VW;
> and I haven't had any installed that would affect the electrical
> system (no new radio or anything like that - wiper blades don't count,
> lol.)
>
> Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Brrrr...At minus 21 celsius more like minus 6 farenheit, if you don't
have nice thin full synthetic motor oil in the motor, it ain't turning
over, but it takes a smart tech to figure that one out. I bet the
dealer's shop is nice and cozy, right?
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On Jan 24, 5:20 pm, laura halliday <marsga....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 24, 5:21 am, HT <hung....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've recently had my 2000 VW refusing to start for me. 2 mornings in
> > a row ( where it was pretty cold -21 degrees celcius). I took it down
> > to the dealer, and they checked for power drain, battery, alternator,
> > and couldn't find anything. I've left it there for a couple of days,
> > and apparently it started each time they tried it.
>
> > Thoughts? The battery is pretty new, about 1.5 year sold; from VW;
> > and I haven't had any installed that would affect the electrical
> > system (no new radio or anything like that - wiper blades don't count,
> > lol.)
>
> > Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Details, please: no cranking? Slow cranking? Cranking but no firing?
> Cranking but not enough firing to start? Gas or diesel?
>
> Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Non sequitur. Your ACKS are
> Grid: CN89mg uncoordinated."
> ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Nomad the Network Engineer

Hi Laura.
It is a gas 1.8T. I don't hear any cranking when i try to turn on the
car. No clicking, no firing, no nothing. When the heater and radio
is on, and i try to turn the ignition, the fan goes off and the radio
goes off. The LCD on the radio also comes in VERY slowly. But when i
boosted it, it turned over on the first try; and once i was driving,
everything is okay. Today was like -18 celcius, and i turned it on no
problem on the first try when i went to pick it up.

I may not have arm'ed the car for a couple of days, do you think that
plays a factor? I read someone on the web, via google, that people
are saying that there is more of a power drain if you don't arm your
car. dunno if i believe this.
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On Jan 24, 5:20 pm, laura halliday <marsga....RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 24, 5:21 am, HT <hung....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I've recently had my 2000 VW refusing to start for me. 2 mornings in
> > a row ( where it was pretty cold -21 degrees celcius). I took it down
> > to the dealer, and they checked for power drain, battery, alternator,
> > and couldn't find anything. I've left it there for a couple of days,
> > and apparently it started each time they tried it.
>
> > Thoughts? The battery is pretty new, about 1.5 year sold; from VW;
> > and I haven't had any installed that would affect the electrical
> > system (no new radio or anything like that - wiper blades don't count,
> > lol.)
>
> > Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Details, please: no cranking? Slow cranking? Cranking but no firing?
> Cranking but not enough firing to start? Gas or diesel?
>
> Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Non sequitur. Your ACKS are
> Grid: CN89mg uncoordinated."
> ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Nomad the Network Engineer

Also, i have zero computer faults; i.e. battery light, engine light,
etc.
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On Jan 24, 8:21 pm, Nate Nagel <njna... DeleteThis @roosters.net> wrote:
> HT wrote:
> > On Jan 24, 5:20 pm, laura halliday <marsga... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Jan 24, 5:21 am, HT <hung... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>I've recently had my 2000 VW refusing to start for me.  2 mornings in
> >>>a row ( where it was pretty cold -21 degrees celcius).  I took it down
> >>>to the dealer, and they checked for power drain, battery, alternator,
> >>>and couldn't find anything.  I've left it there for a couple of days,
> >>>and apparently it started each time they tried it.
>
> >>>Thoughts?  The battery is pretty new, about 1.5 year sold; from VW;
> >>>and I haven't had any installed that would affect the electrical
> >>>system (no new radio or anything like that - wiper blades don't count,
> >>>lol.)
>
> >>>Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>
> >>Details, please: no cranking? Slow cranking? Cranking but no firing?
> >>Cranking but not enough firing to start? Gas or diesel?
>
> >>Laura Halliday VE7LDH     "Non sequitur. Your ACKS are
> >>Grid: CN89mg                    uncoordinated."
> >>ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W       - Nomad the Network Engineer
>
> > Hi Laura.
> > It is a gas 1.8T.  I don't hear any cranking when i try to turn on the
> > car.  No clicking, no firing, no nothing.  When the heater and radio
> > is on, and i try to turn the ignition, the fan goes off and the radio
> > goes off.  The LCD on the radio also comes in VERY slowly.  But when i
> > boosted it, it turned over on the first try; and once i was driving,
> > everything is okay.  Today was like -18 celcius, and i turned it on no
> > problem on the first try when i went to pick it up.
>
> > I may not have arm'ed the car for a couple of days, do you think that
> > plays a factor?   I read someone on the web, via google, that people
> > are saying that there is more of a power drain if you don't arm your
> > car.  dunno if i believe this.
>
> CErtainly sounds like either a bad battery or a power draw.  SWMBO's
> Corrado has a bad diode in the alternator; however, several shops did
> not correctly diagnose this.  I had to remove the alternator to get the
> supercharger out and on a hunch I took it to my local FLAPS to have it
> spun up on their machine and they confirmed my suspicions.  I haven't
> had it rebuilt yet simply because the rest of the car isn't back together

Agreed: you have a bad battery. Get it load tested to be sure.
Make sure the electrical system is charging it properly. Accessories
cutting out may be the car's doing: many cars kill accessories
when the engine is cranking.

My 1986 Jetta's battery is three years old, and doesn't even
notice cold temperatures until about -10 C.

Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Non sequitur. Your ACKS are
Grid: CN89mg uncoordinated."
ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Nomad the Network Engineer
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HT wrote:
> On Jan 24, 5:20 pm, laura halliday <marsga....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 24, 5:21 am, HT <hung....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I've recently had my 2000 VW refusing to start for me. 2 mornings in
>>>a row ( where it was pretty cold -21 degrees celcius). I took it down
>>>to the dealer, and they checked for power drain, battery, alternator,
>>>and couldn't find anything. I've left it there for a couple of days,
>>>and apparently it started each time they tried it.
>>
>>>Thoughts? The battery is pretty new, about 1.5 year sold; from VW;
>>>and I haven't had any installed that would affect the electrical
>>>system (no new radio or anything like that - wiper blades don't count,
>>>lol.)
>>
>>>Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Details, please: no cranking? Slow cranking? Cranking but no firing?
>>Cranking but not enough firing to start? Gas or diesel?
>>
>>Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Non sequitur. Your ACKS are
>>Grid: CN89mg uncoordinated."
>>ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Nomad the Network Engineer
>
>
> Hi Laura.
> It is a gas 1.8T. I don't hear any cranking when i try to turn on the
> car. No clicking, no firing, no nothing. When the heater and radio
> is on, and i try to turn the ignition, the fan goes off and the radio
> goes off. The LCD on the radio also comes in VERY slowly. But when i
> boosted it, it turned over on the first try; and once i was driving,
> everything is okay. Today was like -18 celcius, and i turned it on no
> problem on the first try when i went to pick it up.
>
> I may not have arm'ed the car for a couple of days, do you think that
> plays a factor? I read someone on the web, via google, that people
> are saying that there is more of a power drain if you don't arm your
> car. dunno if i believe this.
>

CErtainly sounds like either a bad battery or a power draw. SWMBO's
Corrado has a bad diode in the alternator; however, several shops did
not correctly diagnose this. I had to remove the alternator to get the
supercharger out and on a hunch I took it to my local FLAPS to have it
spun up on their machine and they confirmed my suspicions. I haven't
had it rebuilt yet simply because the rest of the car isn't back together

nate


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On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:46:05 -0800 (PST), HT <hungtru.DeleteThis@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Jan 24, 5:20 pm, laura halliday <marsga....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 24, 5:21 am, HT <hung....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I've recently had my 2000 VW refusing to start for me. 2 mornings in
>> > a row ( where it was pretty cold -21 degrees celcius). I took it down
>> > to the dealer, and they checked for power drain, battery, alternator,
>> > and couldn't find anything. I've left it there for a couple of days,
>> > and apparently it started each time they tried it.
>>
>> > Thoughts? The battery is pretty new, about 1.5 year sold; from VW;
>> > and I haven't had any installed that would affect the electrical
>> > system (no new radio or anything like that - wiper blades don't count,
>> > lol.)
>>
>> > Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Details, please: no cranking? Slow cranking? Cranking but no firing?
>> Cranking but not enough firing to start? Gas or diesel?
>>
>> Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Non sequitur. Your ACKS are
>> Grid: CN89mg uncoordinated."
>> ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Nomad the Network Engineer
>
>Hi Laura.
>It is a gas 1.8T. I don't hear any cranking when i try to turn on the
>car. No clicking, no firing, no nothing. When the heater and radio
>is on, and i try to turn the ignition, the fan goes off and the radio
>goes off. The LCD on the radio also comes in VERY slowly. But when i
>boosted it, it turned over on the first try; and once i was driving,
>everything is okay. Today was like -18 celcius, and i turned it on no
>problem on the first try when i went to pick it up.
>
>I may not have arm'ed the car for a couple of days, do you think that
>plays a factor? I read someone on the web, via google, that people
>are saying that there is more of a power drain if you don't arm your
>car. dunno if i believe this.
>
-18c is not that cold. Well it is fairly cold but still a good battery
with a gas engine should turn over good enough. Most auto parts stores
can hook up a test tool for the battery. Have the battery tested
somewhere pther than the dealer. Also have the charging system checked
somewhere else. You could get a volt meter to see what your running
voltage is and the voltage before trying to start. If it starts with a
jump, to me that indicates that the battery is a dud. This of course
assumes that there is no corrosion on the battery posts or where the
battery cables clamp on to the battery. But then you say that it held
a charge overnight. I would have attached my battery charger to see
what happens after a good charge. On the other hand I drive an hour
one way to work which should charge up a battery.

I never press the lock button on my car at night. It can sit in the
garage for a few days or more unlocked without any starting problems.
It sometimes sits in a cold garage. Where I live it is kind of rare to
have more than a week where it does not get above freezing. I used to
live where it was cold. Cars started all winter if they had good
batteries, good alternators, good battery cables and good alternator
wires.

http://www.batterystuff.com/tutorial_battery.html
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