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Since: Nov 21, 2007 Posts: 264
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:00 pm
Post subject: Your government at work, Fluorescent Light Bulbs Archived from groups: alt>autos>toyota (more info?)
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The new For more information, The U.S. Environmental Protection
Agency has issued the following
guidelines for safely cleaning up broken compact fluorescent light
bulbs that contain MERCURY.
What to do if you accidentally break a bulb:
Before Cleanup: VENT the Room
Open a window and leave the room for 15 minutes or more.
Shut OFF the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system, if
you have one.
Cleanup Steps for Carpet or rugs
Wear disposable gloves, if available. Carefully scoop up glass
fragments and powder using stiff paper or
cardboard and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a
canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.
Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small
glass fragments and powder.
Vacuum the area were the bulb was broken. Remove the vacuum bag or
empty the canister and wash it
clean. Put the bag or vacuum debris in a sealed planted bag and
rewash the canister
Cleanup Steps for Hard Surfaces
Wear disposable gloves, if available. Carefully scoop up glass
fragments and powder using stiff paper or
cardboard and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a
canning jar) or in a sealed plastic
bag. Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining
small glass fragments and
powder. Wipe the area clean with damp paper towels or disposable wet
wipes and place them in the glass
jar or plastic bag. DO NOT use a vacuum or broom to clean up the
broken
Disposal of Clean-up Materials
Immediately place all cleanup materials, including gloves, outside the
building in a trash container or outdoor
protected area, away from children, for the next normal trash. Wash your
hands after disposing of the jars or plastic
bags containing clean-up materials
Future Cleaning of Carpeting or Rug:
Vent the Room During and After Vacuuming
For at least the next few times you vacuum, shut off the central forced-air
heating/air
conditioning system and open a window prior to vacuuming. Keep the central
heating/air
conditioning system shut OFF and the window open for at least 15 minutes
after vacuuming is
completed. For more information, visit http://www.depweb.state.pa.us,
keyword: Household
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Since: Jan 28, 2007 Posts: 42
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:00 pm
Post subject: Re: Your government at work, Fluorescent Light Bulbs [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Apr 19, 4:00 pm, "Mike hunt" <mikehun... DeleteThis @lycos.com> wrote:
> The new For more information, The U.S. Environmental Protection
> Agency has issued the following
>
> guidelines for safely cleaning up broken compact fluorescent light
> bulbs that contain MERCURY.
>
> What to do if you accidentally break a bulb:
>
> Before Cleanup: VENT the Room
>
> Open a window and leave the room for 15 minutes or more.
>
> Shut OFF the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system, if
> you have one.
>
> Cleanup Steps for Carpet or rugs
>
> Wear disposable gloves, if available. Carefully scoop up glass
> fragments and powder using stiff paper or
>
> cardboard and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a
> canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.
>
> Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small
> glass fragments and powder.
>
> Vacuum the area were the bulb was broken. Remove the vacuum bag or
> empty the canister and wash it
>
> clean. Put the bag or vacuum debris in a sealed planted bag and
> rewash the canister
>
> Cleanup Steps for Hard Surfaces
>
> Wear disposable gloves, if available. Carefully scoop up glass
> fragments and powder using stiff paper or
>
> cardboard and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a
> canning jar) or in a sealed plastic
>
> bag. Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining
> small glass fragments and
>
> powder. Wipe the area clean with damp paper towels or disposable wet
> wipes and place them in the glass
>
> jar or plastic bag. DO NOT use a vacuum or broom to clean up the
> broken
>
> Disposal of Clean-up Materials
>
> Immediately place all cleanup materials, including gloves, outside the
> building in a trash container or outdoor
>
> protected area, away from children, for the next normal trash. Wash your
> hands after disposing of the jars or plastic
>
> bags containing clean-up materials
>
> Future Cleaning of Carpeting or Rug:
>
> Vent the Room During and After Vacuuming
>
> For at least the next few times you vacuum, shut off the central forced-air
> heating/air
>
> conditioning system and open a window prior to vacuuming. Keep the central
> heating/air
>
> conditioning system shut OFF and the window open for at least 15 minutes
> after vacuuming is
>
> completed. For more information, visithttp://www.depweb.state.pa.us,
> keyword: Household
>
> Hazardous Waste. The Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs Fact Sheet
You of course realize, I hope, that schools and businesses have been
using flourescent fixtures since the '50's? I've used the compact
flourescent bulbs for the past 15 years and never had one break. Even
have full spectrum 60 watters in each of my musicstand lights. Don't
use them if they scare you.
I wonder how much mercury is in a can of tuna compared to a compact
flourescent bulb? Anybody know? >> Stay informed about: Your government at work, Fluorescent Light Bulbs |
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Since: Feb 25, 2005 Posts: 1001
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 5:56 pm
Post subject: Re: Your government at work, Fluorescent Light Bulbs [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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edspyhill01.DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Apr 19, 4:00 pm, "Mike hunt" <mikehun....DeleteThis@lycos.com> wrote:
>> The new For more information, The U.S. Environmental Protection
>> Agency has issued the following
>>
>> guidelines for safely cleaning up broken compact fluorescent light
>> bulbs that contain MERCURY.
>>
>> What to do if you accidentally break a bulb:
>>
>> Before Cleanup: VENT the Room
>>
>> Open a window and leave the room for 15 minutes or more.
>>
>> Shut OFF the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system, if
>> you have one.
>>
>> Cleanup Steps for Carpet or rugs
>>
>> Wear disposable gloves, if available. Carefully scoop up glass
>> fragments and powder using stiff paper or
>>
>> cardboard and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a
>> canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.
>>
>> Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small
>> glass fragments and powder.
>>
>> Vacuum the area were the bulb was broken. Remove the vacuum bag or
>> empty the canister and wash it
>>
>> clean. Put the bag or vacuum debris in a sealed planted bag and
>> rewash the canister
>>
>> Cleanup Steps for Hard Surfaces
>>
>> Wear disposable gloves, if available. Carefully scoop up glass
>> fragments and powder using stiff paper or
>>
>> cardboard and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a
>> canning jar) or in a sealed plastic
>>
>> bag. Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining
>> small glass fragments and
>>
>> powder. Wipe the area clean with damp paper towels or disposable wet
>> wipes and place them in the glass
>>
>> jar or plastic bag. DO NOT use a vacuum or broom to clean up the
>> broken
>>
>> Disposal of Clean-up Materials
>>
>> Immediately place all cleanup materials, including gloves, outside the
>> building in a trash container or outdoor
>>
>> protected area, away from children, for the next normal trash. Wash your
>> hands after disposing of the jars or plastic
>>
>> bags containing clean-up materials
>>
>> Future Cleaning of Carpeting or Rug:
>>
>> Vent the Room During and After Vacuuming
>>
>> For at least the next few times you vacuum, shut off the central forced-air
>> heating/air
>>
>> conditioning system and open a window prior to vacuuming. Keep the central
>> heating/air
>>
>> conditioning system shut OFF and the window open for at least 15 minutes
>> after vacuuming is
>>
>> completed. For more information, visithttp://www.depweb.state.pa.us,
>> keyword: Household
>>
>> Hazardous Waste. The Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs Fact Sheet
>
> You of course realize, I hope, that schools and businesses have been
> using flourescent fixtures since the '50's? I've used the compact
> flourescent bulbs for the past 15 years and never had one break. Even
> have full spectrum 60 watters in each of my musicstand lights. Don't
> use them if they scare you.
>
> I wonder how much mercury is in a can of tuna compared to a compact
> flourescent bulb? Anybody know?
But are we just going to be allowed to throw them in the trashcan, or
will there eventually be some paper work that has to follow each and
every bulb around to ensure that it is disposed of properly, with fees
going to some organization once they are everywhere and some greeny
makes a big deal about the mercury?
This is the way these things go. Something like this is
mandated/legislated, then, after the bell is rung, the same
environmental people behind that all of a sudden realize the "unintended
consequences" (yeah right - they knew it all along), and - oh my gosh!!
- there will be all kinds of studies and news articles on the crisis and
damage being done to mother earth, and we must get emergency legislation
thru to control this crisis. And all the savings will be out the window.
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x') >> Stay informed about: Your government at work, Fluorescent Light Bulbs |
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Since: May 21, 2007 Posts: 1219
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:12 pm
Post subject: Re: Your government at work, Fluorescent Light Bulbs [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Mike hunt wrote:
> The new For more information, The U.S. Environmental Protection
> Agency has issued the following
Why don't you come up a with a better solution? Fluorescent light bulbs
must contain mercury. There is no way around that with today's
technology, other to use a different type of light bulb.
So what would you recommend, Mr. Engineer?
I don't see anything wrong with the guidelines. What's your better idea?
Jeff
>
> guidelines for safely cleaning up broken compact fluorescent light
> bulbs that contain MERCURY.
>
> What to do if you accidentally break a bulb:
>
> Before Cleanup: VENT the Room
>
> Open a window and leave the room for 15 minutes or more.
>
> Shut OFF the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system, if
> you have one.
>
> Cleanup Steps for Carpet or rugs
>
> Wear disposable gloves, if available. Carefully scoop up glass
> fragments and powder using stiff paper or
>
> cardboard and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a
> canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.
>
> Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small
> glass fragments and powder.
>
> Vacuum the area were the bulb was broken. Remove the vacuum bag or
> empty the canister and wash it
>
> clean. Put the bag or vacuum debris in a sealed planted bag and
> rewash the canister
>
> Cleanup Steps for Hard Surfaces
>
> Wear disposable gloves, if available. Carefully scoop up glass
> fragments and powder using stiff paper or
>
> cardboard and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a
> canning jar) or in a sealed plastic
>
> bag. Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining
> small glass fragments and
>
> powder. Wipe the area clean with damp paper towels or disposable wet
> wipes and place them in the glass
>
> jar or plastic bag. DO NOT use a vacuum or broom to clean up the
> broken
>
>
> Disposal of Clean-up Materials
>
> Immediately place all cleanup materials, including gloves, outside the
> building in a trash container or outdoor
>
> protected area, away from children, for the next normal trash. Wash your
> hands after disposing of the jars or plastic
>
> bags containing clean-up materials
>
> Future Cleaning of Carpeting or Rug:
>
> Vent the Room During and After Vacuuming
>
> For at least the next few times you vacuum, shut off the central forced-air
> heating/air
>
> conditioning system and open a window prior to vacuuming. Keep the central
> heating/air
>
> conditioning system shut OFF and the window open for at least 15 minutes
> after vacuuming is
>
> completed. For more information, visit http://www.depweb.state.pa.us,
> keyword: Household
>
> Hazardous Waste. The Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs Fact Sheet
>
> >> Stay informed about: Your government at work, Fluorescent Light Bulbs |
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Since: May 15, 2006 Posts: 1209
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:15 pm
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"Mike hunt" <mikehunt22.DeleteThis@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:w5ednSshCsjF0pfVnZ2dnUVZ_t-nnZ2d@ptd.net...
> The new For more information, The U.S. Environmental Protection
> Agency has issued the following
>
> guidelines for safely cleaning up broken compact fluorescent light
> bulbs that contain MERCURY.
>
> What to do if you accidentally break a bulb:
Way too many words. All they had to do is let you narrate a 30 second public
service commercial, ending with "This could be you if you're not careful." >> Stay informed about: Your government at work, Fluorescent Light Bulbs |
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Since: May 21, 2007 Posts: 1219
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:17 pm
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Mike hunt" <mikehunt22 RemoveThis @lycos.com> wrote in message
> news:w5ednSshCsjF0pfVnZ2dnUVZ_t-nnZ2d@ptd.net...
>> The new For more information, The U.S. Environmental Protection
>> Agency has issued the following
>>
>> guidelines for safely cleaning up broken compact fluorescent light
>> bulbs that contain MERCURY.
>>
>> What to do if you accidentally break a bulb:
>
>
> Way too many words. All they had to do is let you narrate a 30 second public
> service commercial, ending with "This could be you if you're not careful."
Well, the problem is that by the time you read the bulletin, you've been
exposed.
Jeff >> Stay informed about: Your government at work, Fluorescent Light Bulbs |
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Since: May 15, 2006 Posts: 1209
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:18 pm
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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "Mike hunt" <mikehunt22.DeleteThis@lycos.com> wrote in message
>> news:w5ednSshCsjF0pfVnZ2dnUVZ_t-nnZ2d@ptd.net...
>>> The new For more information, The U.S. Environmental Protection
>>> Agency has issued the following
>>>
>>> guidelines for safely cleaning up broken compact fluorescent light
>>> bulbs that contain MERCURY.
>>>
>>> What to do if you accidentally break a bulb:
>>
>>
>> Way too many words. All they had to do is let you narrate a 30 second
>> public service commercial, ending with "This could be you if you're not
>> careful."
>
> Well, the problem is that by the time you read the bulletin, you've been
> exposed.
>
> Jeff
>
Ummm...no. >> Stay informed about: Your government at work, Fluorescent Light Bulbs |
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Since: Feb 25, 2005 Posts: 1001
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:35 pm
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Jeff wrote:
> Mike hunt wrote:
>> The new For more information, The U.S. Environmental Protection
>> Agency has issued the following
>
> Why don't you come up a with a better solution? Fluorescent light bulbs
> must contain mercury. There is no way around that with today's
> technology, other to use a different type of light bulb.
>
> So what would you recommend, Mr. Engineer?
>
> I don't see anything wrong with the guidelines. What's your better idea?
The point is that before you go forcing something down people's throats
by edict, study *all* the consequences. Don't just do the usual
environmental cause thing and only publicize the positives of something
you're in favor of. Factor in all the pluses and minuses up front, then
make an honest assessment. Don't convince the politicians only with
data that makes the results like you want them to come out, and once the
whole society is hooked hit them with the true costs and consequences.
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
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Since: May 15, 2006 Posts: 1209
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:59 pm
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Since: May 04, 2006 Posts: 69
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:49 pm
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On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:00:13 -0400, Mike hunt wrote:
> Before Cleanup: VENT the Room
>
> Open a window and leave the room for 15 minutes or more.
This will be great in the winter when it's below zero.
You think turning up the heat to keep the house warm for 15 minutes or
more will negate the energy saving from the flourescent bulb? >> Stay informed about: Your government at work, Fluorescent Light Bulbs |
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Since: Feb 25, 2005 Posts: 1001
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:49 pm
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hachiroku wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:00:13 -0400, Mike hunt wrote:
>
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>> Before Cleanup: VENT the Room
>>
>> Open a window and leave the room for 15 minutes or more.
>
> This will be great in the winter when it's below zero.
>
> You think turning up the heat to keep the house warm for 15 minutes or
> more will negate the energy saving from the flourescent bulb?
We're not supposed to be thinking about that sort of thing - yet.
Create the crisis first, then come up with a solution that costs 3 times
as much as all the savings combined and make a new industry out of it.
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
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Since: May 04, 2006 Posts: 69
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:49 pm
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On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:12:21 +0000, Jeff wrote:
> Mike hunt wrote:
>> The new For more information, The U.S. Environmental Protection
>> Agency has issued the following
>
> Why don't you come up a with a better solution? Fluorescent light bulbs
> must contain mercury. There is no way around that with today's
> technology, other to use a different type of light bulb.
>
> So what would you recommend, Mr. Engineer?
>
> I don't see anything wrong with the guidelines. What's your better idea?
An every day household item that isn't a HazMat nightmare? >> Stay informed about: Your government at work, Fluorescent Light Bulbs |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:51 pm
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On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:17:52 +0000, Jeff wrote:
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "Mike hunt" <mikehunt22.DeleteThis@lycos.com> wrote in message
>> news:w5ednSshCsjF0pfVnZ2dnUVZ_t-nnZ2d@ptd.net...
>>> The new For more information, The U.S. Environmental Protection
>>> Agency has issued the following
>>>
>>> guidelines for safely cleaning up broken compact fluorescent
>>> light
>>> bulbs that contain MERCURY.
>>>
>>> What to do if you accidentally break a bulb:
>>
>>
>> Way too many words. All they had to do is let you narrate a 30 second
>> public service commercial, ending with "This could be you if you're not
>> careful."
>
> Well, the problem is that by the time you read the bulletin, you've been
> exposed.
>
> Jeff
I had one BURN, it burned *through* the glass, and kept glowing even
after I turned off the power and removed the bulb.
No time to go through the steps outlined, the friggin' thing was BURNING!
Guess I've been exposed, eh?
Think it was made in China. They're out to get us one way or another... >> Stay informed about: Your government at work, Fluorescent Light Bulbs |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:58 pm
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On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:56:56 -0400, Bill Putney wrote:
> This is the way these things go. Something like this is
> mandated/legislated, then, after the bell is rung, the same
> environmental people behind that all of a sudden realize the "unintended
> consequences
Like the Corn For Energy crowd, pushing Ethanol as an alternative to
gasoline, and then realizing there are people starving because their corn
is being diverted to fuel, and now it's a CRISIS! >> Stay informed about: Your government at work, Fluorescent Light Bulbs |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:58 pm
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hachiroku wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:56:56 -0400, Bill Putney wrote:
>
>
>> This is the way these things go. Something like this is
>> mandated/legislated, then, after the bell is rung, the same
>> environmental people behind that all of a sudden realize the "unintended
>> consequences
>
> Like the Corn For Energy crowd,...
Yep. Great example.
Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
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