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Scooby-Doggy-Dog

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 4:50 pm
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:32 pm
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"Scooby-Doggy-Dog" wrote in message

> http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&...8612&It


I agree 100% with Bob Vandergriff's statements. Personally I think the
reason that NHRA is staying with the 1000' rule into next season is because
older tracks like Pomona don't have the acreage to expand the shutdown area.

Regardless, I don't like the 1000' rule and think the NHRA needs to focus on
better shut down areas (i.e. sand traps and forgivable barriers) than
limiting the race track.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:47 pm
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I dont understand why foam absorbing walls (like NASCAR Sprint Cup)
are not added.Its not like a drag strip is the size of Daytona.All the
new shutdown areas I`ve seen on TV have concrete walls. If its a cost
thing-then safety is still not a main priority.
I dont know if it would work on sides of main strip,but at least add
at shutdown area.

How many lives was lost in NASCAR before they got off their rears to
make safety #1.They drive the COT now for safety reasons -but has
really effected the racing. I have watched both series for many years
& now say that NHRA is more appealing to watch.

Kim
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Scooby-Doggy-Dog

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:46 am
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Softer walls would be a good addition but the real problem is at the
top end. Better sand traps and some kind of new arresting technology
need to be implemented. But in reality we've probably seen our last
NHRA 1/4 mile nitro race.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:17 pm
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> Softer side walls could cause the nose of the car to dig in and spin, then
> roll.

If you had watched Jeff Gordon hit wall at Pocono (around 200mph) in
turn 1 almost head on ,you would have seen how the softer wall deflect
the impact -not cause the car to dig in.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:18 pm
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Kim wrote:
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>> Softer side walls could cause the nose of the car to dig in and spin, then
>> roll.
>
> If you had watched Jeff Gordon hit wall at Pocono (around 200mph) in
> turn 1 almost head on ,you would have seen how the softer wall deflect
> the impact -not cause the car to dig in.


it's sometimes referred to as a soft wall, but it's really not a soft
wall at all, it's made of steel and foam that reduces the impact and
brunt forces absorbed by the vehicle and its occupant, and it's a no
brainer for ANY racing facility

SAFER Barrier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safer_barrier


as far as the sand trap and end of the track goes, INDY did something
about it without extending the length or needing any additional real
estate, if NHRA cared they would tell the tracks to fix it or we're not
racing there until you do
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Sla#s

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:25 pm
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SG wrote:
> Kim wrote:
>>
>>> Softer side walls could cause the nose of the car to dig in and
>>> spin, then roll.
>>
>> If you had watched Jeff Gordon hit wall at Pocono (around 200mph) in
>> turn 1 almost head on ,you would have seen how the softer wall
>> deflect the impact -not cause the car to dig in.
>
>
> it's sometimes referred to as a soft wall, but it's really not a soft
> wall at all, it's made of steel and foam that reduces the impact and
> brunt forces absorbed by the vehicle and its occupant, and it's a no
> brainer for ANY racing facility
>
> SAFER Barrier
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safer_barrier

Yes I see - A hard skin with give - good idea - thanks for that info.

> as far as the sand trap and end of the track goes, INDY did something
> about it without extending the length or needing any additional real
> estate, if NHRA cared they would tell the tracks to fix it or we're
> not racing there until you do

What did Indy do?

Slatts
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SG

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:25 pm
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Sla#s wrote:
> SG wrote:
>> Kim wrote:
>>>
>>>> Softer side walls could cause the nose of the car to dig in and
>>>> spin, then roll.
>>>
>>> If you had watched Jeff Gordon hit wall at Pocono (around 200mph) in
>>> turn 1 almost head on ,you would have seen how the softer wall
>>> deflect the impact -not cause the car to dig in.
>>
>>
>> it's sometimes referred to as a soft wall, but it's really not a soft
>> wall at all, it's made of steel and foam that reduces the impact and
>> brunt forces absorbed by the vehicle and its occupant, and it's a no
>> brainer for ANY racing facility
>>
>> SAFER Barrier
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safer_barrier
>
> Yes I see - A hard skin with give - good idea - thanks for that info.
>
>> as far as the sand trap and end of the track goes, INDY did something
>> about it without extending the length or needing any additional real
>> estate, if NHRA cared they would tell the tracks to fix it or we're
>> not racing there until you do
>
> What did Indy do?
>
> Slatts
>
>


http://www.nhra.com/content/news.asp?articleid=31914&zoneid=163
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:56 pm
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"SG" wrote in message

> Sla#s wrote:
>> SG wrote:
>>> Kim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Softer side walls could cause the nose of the car to dig in and
>>>>> spin, then roll.
>>>>
>>>> If you had watched Jeff Gordon hit wall at Pocono (around 200mph) in
>>>> turn 1 almost head on ,you would have seen how the softer wall
>>>> deflect the impact -not cause the car to dig in.
>>>
>>>
>>> it's sometimes referred to as a soft wall, but it's really not a soft
>>> wall at all, it's made of steel and foam that reduces the impact and
>>> brunt forces absorbed by the vehicle and its occupant, and it's a no
>>> brainer for ANY racing facility
>>>
>>> SAFER Barrier
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safer_barrier
>>
>> Yes I see - A hard skin with give - good idea - thanks for that info.
>>
>>> as far as the sand trap and end of the track goes, INDY did something
>>> about it without extending the length or needing any additional real
>>> estate, if NHRA cared they would tell the tracks to fix it or we're
>>> not racing there until you do
>>
>> What did Indy do?
>>
>> Slatts
>
> http://www.nhra.com/content/news.asp?articleid=31914&zoneid=163

The above appears to be a superb idea but since we are not NHRA Engineers
that oversee the day-to-day activities, we here can't state that it is a
perfect solution.

I'm starting to think that economics are overriding all of this. Especially
since its possible that only 10 TF teams might be returning for a full
season next year. Sorry I can't provide a link for that on short notice...
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:02 am
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:25 pm
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SG wrote:
<SNIP>>> What did Indy do?
>>
>
> http://www.nhra.com/content/news.asp?articleid=31914&zoneid=163

Thanks.

I've said this before.
Personaly I think they are going to have to reduce engine capacity.
It's happened in every other form of motor racing and it's not as though
drag racing has been "unlimited" for years.
After all what would you prefer, a seven second race or a three second one?
(I'm old enough to remember top fuel being 7 seconds!)

Slatts
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