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Aceman

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:53 pm
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Is this indicative of a loose or broken engine/tranny mount?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:55 pm
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> Is this indicative of a loose or broken engine/tranny mount?

If an engine mount were broken, snapping the throttle while in neutral would
produce movement, as well - as the engine will try and twist against the
rotation of the crank. If the tranny mount was broken, the transmission
would try and bounce up, smacking the underside of the cab.

This may sound overly simplistic, but stick your head under there and look.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:55 pm
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> Is this indicative of a loose or broken engine/tranny mount?

Oh yeah.... year/make/model/relevant options are generally appreciated...
it eliminates some of the guesswork.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:04 am
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In news:%PmWf.605$i41.356@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net,
Tom Lawrence <tNlOaSwPrAeMnMcIeN5G DeleteThis @earthlink.net> stated, which I commented
on below:
>> Is this indicative of a loose or broken engine/tranny mount?
>
> Oh yeah.... year/make/model/relevant options are generally
> appreciated... it eliminates some of the guesswork.

Sorry Tom. SRT10 6-speed. Sure I looked under and it looks fine from what I
can see, but driving along and going over such as a thing as a sunken
manhole cover, it will shake the stick hard enough for me to lose my grip on
it, especially when it catches me off guard.

Would you consider that normal for this? I don't. I used to own a 70 429
Torino CJ with a 4-speed that also had a tight suspension, but not like
quite as tight as this truck, but it never did that.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:51 am
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In news:1143613309.864863.271800@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com,
Marsh Monster <MarshMonster2624 RemoveThis @aol.com> stated, which I commented on below:

> What makes it stop doing it?

Not going over bumps.

>
> My first guess is that it's doing it only 30-40mph in 4th or 5th
> gear.?
>
> My second guess is that the ujoints or center support is bad.
>
>
> a guess.....
> only a guess......
> based on the facts given......
> only the facts given.....................
> which were'nt a lot of facts you know.
>
> in case of a real diagnosis.......
> further info will be needed.
>

I appreciate your guess, and will take it as an educated guess. As for the
what speed and gear, I'll take notes on that today, but from your guess, I
believe, IIRC, 30-40 in 3rd or 4th, (can't remember if 5th too) is when it's
happening. I do remember hearing a 'click' when first starting off in 1st,
so I think I'm leaning towards the ujoint being a good guess. Taking it in
tomorrow. We'll see.

I'm not sure what other type of info you need. When I'm helping folks with
computer network infrastructure questions, I'll ask for specific info. I'll
be glad to add any pertinent additional info.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 2:55 pm
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> My second guess is that the ujoints or center support is bad.

Not to confuse you with "facts", but there is no center support - it's a
1-piece driveshaft (you know... regular cab... short bed...)

But hey... you keep right on "guessin".
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:55 pm
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> but ....nowhere on this thread was it stated that ..(you know..reg.
> cab..short bed)

It absolutely was... just what configuration do you think an SRT-10 with a
6spd comes in?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:48 am
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In news:t9IXf.12714$sL2.4463@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net,
Tom Lawrence <tNlOaSwPrAeMnMcIeN5G DeleteThis @earthlink.net> stated, which I commented
on below:

> Nice try... but the QC SRT-10 only comes with an automatic. Since
> the OP clearly stated he has a 6spd, that's only offered in an RC/SB
> configuration, with a 1-piece driveshaft.
>
> Back to you, genius...

Ok you guys, I've learned a bit in the past two weeks, and reading both of
your posts, and appreciate your comments and highlights. Smile

So far, this truck (and yes, the 6 speed only comes in the RC/SB and
automatic only in QC), has had some issues right off the dealer lot. Here's
the history so far...

Keep in mind I know these guys at the dealership and they are doing their
best to help me...

1. Made the deal and took it on Mon two weeks ago after working with the
general manager on the deal for about a week. I don't deal with salesmen
since I was a car salesmen about 17 years ago, and am fully aware of all the
backend stuff, how it works, the hidden monies, etc, so I go right to the
top. FYI for anyone who cares about the price, the sticker was $51,600. The
lease intial cap cost (the actual 'selling' price), was at $1200 below
invoice AND the rebate, which means I got $1200 out of the holdback, which
was about $1525. So essentially I paid about $300 above holdback. So got a
great deal. No sooner did I sign the papers a call came in from a guy from
the next state over wanting the vehicle. Nice... Smile Anyone else would have
just got the rebate off MSRP.

2. Found out afterwards the rear rotors were out of round and pulsating
badly at high speed. While driving around town in the three test drives I
took, I couldn't pick up the rear pulsing because I was using the tranny to
slow down before/as I was braking. I was playing with the tranny too much to
notice. As soon as I made the deal and took it home on the turnpike did it
show up. Hmm... Took it in the next day and of course they don't have those
17" huge ass rear rotors in stock. Special order from Milwaukee (where I
guess they built the truck since it's hand built and not assembly lined). I
also notice a nasty rear shimmy at 70mph. (Cut the rotors you say? They
couldn't cut the rotors, either on the vehicle or on the lathe, because they
are simply TOO big for the equipment. I was thinking about taking it to a
tractor trailer truck place to do it, but it is under warranty and I ain't
going to do it...

3. Took it back when the rotors came in. They replaced them and the rear
shimmy, the rear pulsing AND the shifter banging disappeared. Hmm... so it
was due to the rear rotors causing the heavy vibes and the shifter shaking
badly, besides the pulsing.

4. That opened up a can of worms. Now the front rotors were showing signs of
pulsing. WTF. So they ordered them for me yesterday. I told them they should
have swapped rotors off the SRT QC sitting in stock. The service general
manager said he would have done it but pointed out what if that had the same
problem? I said take it on the turnpike and test it, but the turnpike is
about 15 miles away and they didn't want to put all those miles on it
travelling to/from and on the turnpike.Ok.. np.

5. Drving it around is a huge pleasure. The front pusling isn't as bad, so I
took it out last night for a bit. Parked now and for the rest of the week
until the front rotors come in.

Am I upset? Sure, what do you think? But is it something I would return the
vehicle for another? Nope. This thing was ordered in June, 2005 and didn't
get delivered until early March 2006. I ain't giving it back... Just want to
get thru this rotor ordeal.

And thanks for the tips on what to look for. If after the front rotors are
replaced and there is still an issue, well, I will deal with it at that time
next week and probably request the Dodge tech guy (from corp) look into it
and see what's up.

Thanks again!

Ace
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:55 pm
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> And thanks for the tips on what to look for. If after the front rotors are
> replaced and there is still an issue, well, I will deal with it at that
> time next week and probably request the Dodge tech guy (from corp) look
> into it and see what's up.

Sounds like you're in pretty good hands with the dealership... best of luck
with the truck, and try not to have TOO much fun Smile
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:55 pm
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> the thread gave me an opportunity to become better informed myself.

You're welcome Smile

> ~refuses to admit that tommy had anything to do with it~

Ah, that's OK... one step at a time.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:21 pm
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In news:ojSZf.4605$i41.3229@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net,
Tom Lawrence <tNlOaSwPrAeMnMcIeN5G.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> stated, which I commented
on below:
>> And thanks for the tips on what to look for. If after the front
>> rotors are replaced and there is still an issue, well, I will deal
>> with it at that time next week and probably request the Dodge tech
>> guy (from corp) look into it and see what's up.
>
> Sounds like you're in pretty good hands with the dealership... best
> of luck with the truck, and try not to have TOO much fun Smile

Thanks Tom, I will! This truck is one awesome toy... Wink

Ace
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:22 pm
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In news:1144540382.118649.214560@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com,
Marsh Monster <MarshMonster2624.DeleteThis@aol.com> stated, which I commented on below:
>
> Good feedback ACE, glad your being taken care of.
>
>
> And.....
> the thread gave me an opportunity to become better informed myself.
>
>

No prob Marsh. I learned some things as well.

>
> ~:~
> marshmonster
> ~refuses to admit that tommy had anything to do with it~

LOL!
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 8:29 pm
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In news:ydYZf.2088$Es3.997@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net,
Tom Lawrence <tNlOaSwPrAeMnMcIeN5G.TakeThisOut@earthlink.net> stated, which I commented
on below:
>> the thread gave me an opportunity to become better informed myself.
>
> You're welcome Smile
>
>> ~refuses to admit that tommy had anything to do with it~
>
> Ah, that's OK... one step at a time.

FYI as a followup. Got the new rotors on the front. The vibrations are gone
other than the engine idling. This thing is awesome on the highway.

Apparently most of the shaking was due to having four out of round brakes.
Wouldn't you know it coming out of the factory like that? What are the odds
of getting a new vehicle, SRT or not, that all four rotors are out of round?

Thanks for your help and pointers gentlemen.

Ace
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 9:55 pm
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> Wouldn't you know it coming out of the factory like that? What are the
> odds of getting a new vehicle, SRT or not, that all four rotors are out of
> round?

Someone put the lug nuts on with an impact gun... and I wouldn't suspect the
factory - I'd suspect the dealership tech that did the PDI on the truck.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 8:40 am
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In news:7hX%f.7182$i41.1403@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net,
Tom Lawrence <tNlOaSwPrAeMnMcIeN5G RemoveThis @earthlink.net> stated, which I commented
on below:
>> Wouldn't you know it coming out of the factory like that? What are
>> the odds of getting a new vehicle, SRT or not, that all four rotors
>> are out of round?
>
> Someone put the lug nuts on with an impact gun... and I wouldn't
> suspect the factory - I'd suspect the dealership tech that did the
> PDI on the truck.

Hmm. Interesting point. Is that one of the PDI checkpoints, to take off the
wheels and check the brakes or something? I didn't think that was one of
them.

Ace
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