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87bronc




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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:27 pm
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hey just bought a 87 full size bronco the fuel guage does not work the guage it self is fine i just would like to get an opinion on hat it could be before dropping the tank.

Now the lady i bought this from had a reman trany put in it ever since it has been put in it its been breaking the mounting ears on the starter she said she went threw like 5 and i have gone threw one so far any suggestions

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:06 pm
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Punctuation. That's my suggestion. It is very difficult to help you when you
do not gives us an idea where one idea stops and another starts.

An '87 Bronco is going to take some work, so you either need to know this
sort of stuff or be ready to open your checkbook very wide, or look at the
issues as being unimportant to "flight operations," and learn to work around
them.

I can't imagine any transmission problem that would break the starter. You
did not say which transmission you have, but I assume the automatic. The
starter should not care abou tthe transmission per se, but it would care
about the bellhousing and flywheel.

The fuel level sending unit lives in the gas tank, and is part of the fuel
pump if I remember correctly. You will have to drop the tank to get the pump
and sending unit out.





"87bronc" <none RemoveThis @000.com> wrote in message
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> hey just bought a 87 full size bronco the fuel guage does not work
> the guage it self is fine i just would like to get an opinion on hat
> it could be before dropping the tank.
>
> Now the lady i bought this from had a reman trany put in it ever since
> it has been put in it its been breaking the mounting ears on the
> starter she said she went threw like 5 and i have gone threw one so
> far any suggestions

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:07 pm
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Punctuation. That's my suggestion. It is very difficult to help you when
> you do not gives us an idea where one idea stops and another starts.


That was funny as hell.

roflmao

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:33 pm
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"87bronc" wrote:

hey just bought a 87 full size bronco the fuel guage does not
work the guage it self is fine i just would like to get an opinion
on hat it could be before dropping the tank.

Now the lady i bought this from had a reman trany put in it
ever since it has been put in it its been breaking the mounting
ears on the starter she said she went threw like 5 and i have
gone threw one so far any suggestions
___________________________________________________

Please provide more information:

____ Fuel guage (gauge?):
If it doesn't work, how do you know it is 'fine'?

____ Opinion on hat:
What kind of hat? Style or value opinion?

____ Broken mounting ears:
Starter mounting ears are very strong. Broken ears
are almost always caused by improper installation, not
by subsequent operation. What did the mechanic who
replaced the starter say was the cause of the breakage?

If possible, have your next post proofread by a literate
friend. A truly serious inquiry may get no responses
because posts with extensive spelling and punctuation
errors are often ignored as probable trolls.

Good luck.

Rodan.
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87bronc




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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:46 pm
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Well The lady had bought a ramanufactured c6 automatic transmission from checker auto parts. Now ever since this transmission has been put in the mounting ears have been cracking or breaking off completely. Every starter has lasted about 5 start ups and thats it. Now i have crawled under and made sure the last starter i just put in was lining up correctly and the same thing happend. i checked the fly wheel and there is nothing wrong with it its not bent or missing any teeth. i don't know what to do i personaly think that something is just not lining up right
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 11:45 pm
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"87bronc" <none.RemoveThis@000.com> wrote in message
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> Well The lady had bought a ramanufactured c6 automatic transmission
> from checker auto parts. Now ever since this transmission has been
> put in the mounting ears have been cracking or breaking off
> completely. Every starter has lasted about 5 start ups and thats it.
> Now i have crawled under and made sure the last starter i just put in
> was lining up correctly and the same thing happend. i checked the fly
> wheel and there is nothing wrong with it its not bent or missing any
> teeth. i don't know what to do i personaly think that something is
> just not lining up right

What engine is in the vehicle? Also, I vaguely remember a similar problem
with one vehicle of a friend and it was an improperly mounted flywheel.
Either the flywheel was installed backwards or the starter ring was
installed backwards on the flywheel. As I recall, the beveled side of the
starter ring should face forward (toward the starter) and in this case the
reverse was true. It prevented the starter gear from disengaging the starter
ring quickly enough and resulted in twisting the starter. Anyone out there
seen such a problem or happening? Hope this helps....

DaveD
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:37 am
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"87bronc" <none RemoveThis @000.com> wrote in message
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Are the dowel pins in place?

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:14 pm
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The starter would not care a whit about the transmission. It would care
about the bellhousing and it would care about the shim.

I can't fathom breaking the "ears" off. These are very thick. If they are
breaking off, the starter is not being fitted flat to the bellhousing. You
have something out of alignment.



"87bronc" <none.TakeThisOut@000.com> wrote in message
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> Well The lady had bought a ramanufactured c6 automatic transmission
> from checker auto parts. Now ever since this transmission has been
> put in the mounting ears have been cracking or breaking off
> completely. Every starter has lasted about 5 start ups and thats it.
> Now i have crawled under and made sure the last starter i just put in
> was lining up correctly and the same thing happend. i checked the fly
> wheel and there is nothing wrong with it its not bent or missing any
> teeth. i don't know what to do i personaly think that something is
> just not lining up right
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:02 am
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Nick,
You should not include your flag in a Text Only newsgroup.

The GIF file throws the server or the reader, or both, into a tizzy.





"N in WNC" <ninwnc RemoveThis @webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Make sure the starter boltsare tight. I had a fordtruck at one timethat
> was notirious for loosening he starer bolts. I aplied lock-tite and
> solved the problem.
>
> I guess if it was partialy loose,it could bind on starting. I don't know
> that this would break off the "ears".
>
> Nick
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:02 am
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Nick,
> You should not include your flag in a Text Only newsgroup.
>
> The GIF file throws the server or the reader, or both, into a tizzy.



......looks cool, though.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:39 am
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On Tue, 06 May 2008 02:02:42 +0000, Jeff Strickland rearranged some
electrons to say:

> Nick,
> You should not include your flag in a Text Only newsgroup.
>
> The GIF file throws the server or the reader, or both, into a tizzy.
>
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He's a Web TV user. He doesn't know any better.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:50 am
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My apologies.I will try to remember in the future.

Nick
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 3:04 pm
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"Spdloader" <askforit.DeleteThis@nospam.sc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> Nick,
>> You should not include your flag in a Text Only newsgroup.
>>
>> The GIF file throws the server or the reader, or both, into a tizzy.
>
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> .....looks cool, though.
>
> Spdloader


Yes, it does.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:41 pm
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the engine in it is a winsor 351 4bbl carb. I will start with the fly wheel being on backwards and the starter ring. One thing i noticed was that the bolts they used to mount it in were just grade A hardware. I went and found some starter bolts that fit that truck. Well i appriciate the advice and i will let you know how everything goes. thanks again guys
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:57 pm
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As a practical matter, since the truck has a C6 automatic, there is no
reason for the flywheel to come off. Given this tidbit of factual
information, odds favor it being on the right way. You should be able to
open an access cover on the bell housing to look at the flywheel and the
torque converter.

The wrong bolts could be a problem. I believe bolts are rated as Grade 3,
Grade 5, and Grade 8, where grade 3 is the type of bolt used in a
construction project, and grade 5 and grade 8 are automotive grades. You
stated Grade A, and that sounds alot like Grade 8 to me, and Grade 8 is the
proper bolt for this application. A Grade 5 is probably sufficient, but I
recall that Grade 8 has a higher tensile strength.

If the bolts you had were the type with a shoulder (un-threaded portion)
that was getting bottomed out and leaving the starter to wobble a bit, then
this could easily be causing a problem.

I would suggest you take a look at the flywheel from either the view of the
access panel or from the location that the starter normally lives in, but do
not pull the transmission down and take the bell housing off unless you know
for certain that the flywheel is backwards. It seems to me that if the
flywheel was backwards, the torque converter would not fit, so I doubt the
flywheel is your trouble.
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