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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:13 pm
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"Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for all your suggestions.
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> I guess when I clean underneath the front hood, I'll just do it
> the careful, tedious way, with a shop towel passed over individual
> surfaces, one at a time, like Auto Upkeep recommends.
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> It sure will take a lot longer, but for a beginner like me, it's
> probably safer.
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> On the other hand, in the '06 Camry, the engine's spark plugs are
> protected by a large plastic engine cover, and I guess I could
> cover the air filter housing's air intake with something, and
> cover the alternator and MAF sensor, but I think I'll just follow
> the book and use a dampened shop towel.
When I do this, I am careful to plug the air inlets, cover the alternator,
distributor,
etc (as it may apply to the vehicle) with plastic bags and tie them snugly.
Gunk, Dawn, etc will usually work fine. Kerosene, as mentioned before is
great
for dissolving oil without hurting most paint. Easily flushed away with
soap and water.
When you get through, take away ALL the bags and rag stuffing, wipe off the
visible
water. You can use WD-40 on plugs, wires, etc if you wish.It is a darn good
water dispersant.
Start the engine immediately. Let it run until hot enough to evaporate the
water.
You may want to (need to) lubricate hood hinges, pins, linkages, etc when
you are
finished. Removal of grease or oil by the bath may make this wise. |
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:54 pm
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On 2008-07-02, HLS <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.nix> wrote:
>> On the other hand, in the '06 Camry, the engine's spark plugs are
> When I do this, I am careful to plug the air inlets,
Don't most modern cars have their air inlets inside one of the fenders
these days? I can't recall the last time I saw a car that didn't. |
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 5:33 pm
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"Brent P" <tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On 2008-07-02, HLS <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.nix> wrote:
>>> On the other hand, in the '06 Camry, the engine's spark plugs are
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>> When I do this, I am careful to plug the air inlets,
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> Don't most modern cars have their air inlets inside one of the fenders
> these days? I can't recall the last time I saw a car that didn't.
The post was generic. . If you can plug it, do so. >> Stay informed about: Engine Cleaning |
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:58 pm
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 08:02:54 -0700 (PDT), Built_Well
<Built_Well_Toyota.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>Thanks for all your suggestions.
>
>I guess when I clean underneath the front hood, I'll just do it
>the careful, tedious way, with a shop towel passed over individual
>surfaces, one at a time, like Auto Upkeep recommends.
>
>It sure will take a lot longer, but for a beginner like me, it's
>probably safer.
>
>On the other hand, in the '06 Camry, the engine's spark plugs are
>protected by a large plastic engine cover, and I guess I could
>cover the air filter housing's air intake with something, and
>cover the alternator and MAF sensor, but I think I'll just follow
>the book and use a dampened shop towel.
Does your girl friend/wife/significant other get turned on by a clean
engine? I don't understand why you want to clean your engine, it
won't make the car run better. It won't help the engine to run cooler
or the A/C to work better. Well, maybe the A/C might work better if
the condenser is plugged up with bugs and stuff.
Keep the outside clean and the hood closed.
Jack >> Stay informed about: Engine Cleaning |
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 8:58 pm
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On 2008-07-02, Retired VIP <jackj.extradots.180.RemoveThis@windstream.net> wrote:
> Does your girl friend/wife/significant other get turned on by a clean
> engine? I don't understand why you want to clean your engine, it
> won't make the car run better. It won't help the engine to run cooler
> or the A/C to work better. Well, maybe the A/C might work better if
> the condenser is plugged up with bugs and stuff.
> Keep the outside clean and the hood closed.
Do you ever do any of your own work on a car? It's a lot easier when you
keep things underneath and under the hood clean or at least somewhat
clean. Tracing a leak is a lot easier when things are kept clean. And as
far as the engine working better, when clean it is working as it was
designed. Accelerated life testing may not get the engine and other
parts coated in the sorts of grime they do over a period of years of
real operation. Grime can do harm in a number of ways. Sure it may
something that isn't measurable and can't be pulled out of the noise of
random and old-age part failures, but other than some rare exceptions
its not doing any good being there. >> Stay informed about: Engine Cleaning |
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:56 pm
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Just make sure you don't get water into the alternator, AC clutch or
other open electrical parts.
On Jul 1, 7:50 am, Built_Well <Built_Well_Toy....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, I have a question about engine cleaning.
>
> A beginner's book called "Auto Upkeep" says to clean the engine like
> this:
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> "Open the hood. Wet a shop rag with a multipurpose cleaner and wipe
> grime, dirt, and dust from the engine compartment. Close the hood."
>
> What kind of multipurpose cleaner would work--Ammonia-based spray?
>
> Also, do I have to worry about accidentally cleaning off
> intentionally
> lubricated surfaces inside the engine compartment? >> Stay informed about: Engine Cleaning |
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:16 am
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On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:20:44 -0400, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno RemoveThis @e86.GTS>
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>>One of them had the oil pan bolts working loose and the entire underside
>>of the car was oil undercoated.
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> Good thing. Prevents body rust.
> --scott
And it did! Except where it got hit when it was a year old. Started
rusting from inside the panel. Traded it while it still looked good... >> Stay informed about: Engine Cleaning |
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:40 am
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Built_Well wrote:
> Hi, I have a question about engine cleaning.
>
> A beginner's book called "Auto Upkeep" says to clean the engine like
> this:
>
> "Open the hood. Wet a shop rag with a multipurpose cleaner and wipe
> grime, dirt, and dust from the engine compartment. Close the hood."
>
> What kind of multipurpose cleaner would work--Ammonia-based spray?
>
> Also, do I have to worry about accidentally cleaning off
> intentionally
> lubricated surfaces inside the engine compartment?
Beware of washing some of the informational labels. I washed one under
my hood and all the writing came off. The labels on the driver's door
are blank---as if written with disappearing ink. >> Stay informed about: Engine Cleaning |
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:05 am
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johngdole.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
> Just make sure you don't get water into the alternator, AC clutch or
> other open electrical parts.
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>
Water won't hurt an alternator or AC/clutch! Don't hit it with a
pressure washer so that a jet of water blasts past the bearing seals,
but other than that its harmless to an alternator or AC clutch. If
you've ever had an AC clutch apart, the electrical wiring (just a magnet
coil) is completely encased inside a plastic potting compound.
Alternator wiring is entirely magnet wire which is coated and
waterproof, and even the exposed brush/sliprings won't be harmed by a
little water. Heck, offroaders submerge their alternators routinely, and
lots of regular street cars have the alternators down where splash from
puddles can get to them. >> Stay informed about: Engine Cleaning |
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:36 pm
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On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:00:48 -0500, Brent P
<tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On 2008-07-02, Retired VIP <jackj.extradots.180.DeleteThis@windstream.net> wrote:
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>> Does your girl friend/wife/significant other get turned on by a clean
>> engine? I don't understand why you want to clean your engine, it
>> won't make the car run better. It won't help the engine to run cooler
>> or the A/C to work better. Well, maybe the A/C might work better if
>> the condenser is plugged up with bugs and stuff.
>> Keep the outside clean and the hood closed.
>
>Do you ever do any of your own work on a car? It's a lot easier when you
>keep things underneath and under the hood clean or at least somewhat
>clean.
No, the job is a little bit cleaner but not easier. Yes, I do a lot
of my own work and I used to clean my engine at the car wash every
couple of months. It's a waste of money and time.
> Tracing a leak is a lot easier when things are kept clean. And as
>far as the engine working better, when clean it is working as it was
>designed. Accelerated life testing may not get the engine and other
>parts coated in the sorts of grime they do over a period of years of
>real operation. Grime can do harm in a number of ways. Sure it may
>something that isn't measurable and can't be pulled out of the noise of
>random and old-age part failures, but other than some rare exceptions
>its not doing any good being there.
Hmmm, you seem to be saying that a clean engine makes a big difference
in how the engine runs and how long it lasts but you can't measure any
difference.
Name a problem caused by dirty valve covers or caked-on crude on the
oil pan. What problem would dust and dirt on the fire wall cause?
Jack >> Stay informed about: Engine Cleaning |
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:36 pm
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:18 pm
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:20 pm
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:18 pm
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On 2008-07-03, Retired VIP <jackj.extradots.180 RemoveThis @windstream.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:00:48 -0500, Brent P
><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>On 2008-07-02, Retired VIP <jackj.extradots.180 RemoveThis @windstream.net> wrote:
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>>> Does your girl friend/wife/significant other get turned on by a clean
>>> engine? I don't understand why you want to clean your engine, it
>>> won't make the car run better. It won't help the engine to run cooler
>>> or the A/C to work better. Well, maybe the A/C might work better if
>>> the condenser is plugged up with bugs and stuff.
>>> Keep the outside clean and the hood closed.
>>
>>Do you ever do any of your own work on a car? It's a lot easier when you
>>keep things underneath and under the hood clean or at least somewhat
>>clean.
> No, the job is a little bit cleaner but not easier.
I don't know where you live, but keeping an engine compartment clean
cuts down on the corrosion and that does make things easier.
> Yes, I do a lot
> of my own work and I used to clean my engine at the car wash every
> couple of months. It's a waste of money and time.
I've never found a need to do it that frequently.
>> Tracing a leak is a lot easier when things are kept clean. And as
>>far as the engine working better, when clean it is working as it was
>>designed. Accelerated life testing may not get the engine and other
>>parts coated in the sorts of grime they do over a period of years of
>>real operation. Grime can do harm in a number of ways. Sure it may
>>something that isn't measurable and can't be pulled out of the noise of
>>random and old-age part failures, but other than some rare exceptions
>>its not doing any good being there.
> Hmmm, you seem to be saying that a clean engine makes a big difference
> in how the engine runs and how long it lasts but you can't measure any
> difference.
Go play games somewhere else. It's plainly clear what I said.
> Name a problem caused by dirty valve covers or caked-on crude on the
> oil pan. What problem would dust and dirt on the fire wall cause?
Why those specific ones? Why not road salt coating brake lines? >> Stay informed about: Engine Cleaning |
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:05 am
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On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:24:53 -0400, Scott in Florida
<MoveOn DeleteThis @outa.here> wrote:
>On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:36:07 GMT, Retired VIP
><jackj.extradots.180 DeleteThis @windstream.net> wrote:
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>>On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:00:48 -0500, Brent P
>><tetraethylleadREMOVETHIS DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>On 2008-07-02, Retired VIP <jackj.extradots.180 DeleteThis @windstream.net> wrote:
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>>>> Does your girl friend/wife/significant other get turned on by a clean
>>>> engine? I don't understand why you want to clean your engine, it
>>>> won't make the car run better. It won't help the engine to run cooler
>>>> or the A/C to work better. Well, maybe the A/C might work better if
>>>> the condenser is plugged up with bugs and stuff.
>>>> Keep the outside clean and the hood closed.
>>>
>>>Do you ever do any of your own work on a car? It's a lot easier when you
>>>keep things underneath and under the hood clean or at least somewhat
>>>clean.
>>
>>No, the job is a little bit cleaner but not easier. Yes, I do a lot
>>of my own work and I used to clean my engine at the car wash every
>>couple of months. It's a waste of money and time.
>>
>>> Tracing a leak is a lot easier when things are kept clean. And as
>>>far as the engine working better, when clean it is working as it was
>>>designed. Accelerated life testing may not get the engine and other
>>>parts coated in the sorts of grime they do over a period of years of
>>>real operation. Grime can do harm in a number of ways. Sure it may
>>>something that isn't measurable and can't be pulled out of the noise of
>>>random and old-age part failures, but other than some rare exceptions
>>>its not doing any good being there.
>>
>>Hmmm, you seem to be saying that a clean engine makes a big difference
>>in how the engine runs and how long it lasts but you can't measure any
>>difference.
>>
>>Name a problem caused by dirty valve covers or caked-on crude on the
>>oil pan. What problem would dust and dirt on the fire wall cause?
>>
>
>Dirt dropping into the brake fluid reservoir when you check it.
>
>
>>Jack
Well hell Scott, you wipe the damn thing off with a rag before you
take the top off. Same holds true for the oil filler, wipe it off
with a rag before you take the cap off.
You guys do what you want about washing your car's engine. If it
makes you feel better to have a clean engine, then great. Just don't
try to convince me that your car runs better or last longer than mine
will with a dirty engine. Oh yeah, don't come crying to me when
you're stuck in a car wash bay with a wet engine that won't start. Or
crack a hot manifold by spraying cold water on it.
Jack >> Stay informed about: Engine Cleaning |
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