2008 Town & Country

"Bill Putney" <bptn.DeleteThis@kinez.net> wrote in message
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> ks wrote:
>> "Nosey" <kfrei43.DeleteThis@removethis.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> ks wrote:
>>>> trying to provide 12+ to the camera independly of the backup light
>>>> curcuit, I will have to ofcourse now seperate the camera from the
>>>> backup light so I don't cause any backfeed.
>>> Can't you just tap a 12+ into the existing camera power wire and isolate
>>> the backfeed with a diode?
>>> --
>>> Ken
>>
>> Yep thats the plan kinda The instruction say to clip the 12+ to the
>> Camera and use the wire from the module to supply the power to the camera
>> when view is needed.
>>
>> I was just trying to save time/hassel by seeing if I could find the wire
>> colors so I could do this at the harness before going into the gate so I
>> didn't have to diassembling the rear door to get to the camera to find
>> out which wire it is.
>>
>> Instead I'm getting legal and warranty advise.
>
> Three ways to get the wiring info.:
> (1) Some dealers will let you look at their FSM's in their facility - used
> to be that way - I don't know if they still do that.
>
> (2) Buy the FSM (probably more than the approx. $100 they used to be).
>
> (3) If it's worth $25 to you (for a one year subscription), you could get
> an on-line subscription to alldata.com. Not sure about your van, but for
> the vehicles I have subscriptions for, they have every single schematic
> that's in the FSM, and they are all right out of the FSM - none of the
> aftermarket manual "typical" schematics that may or may not be accurate
> for your vehicle. With that subscription you would also have access to
> the complete TSB's applicable to the vehicle - that alone might be worth
> the cost of the subscription.
>
> (I have no connections with alldata other than being a customer - and to
> prove it, I'll say that the rest of their vehicle-specific information,
> though right out of the FSM, is spotty, incomplete, and poorly
> organized/hard to search. Schematics and TSB's are 100%, and may be worth
> the cost by itself. Also, they give multiple year/multiple vehicle
> discounts.)
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address
> with the letter 'x')

I forgot all about Alldata, the FSM is $395.00 which I think is just a
little over priced!
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"Denny" <dmetzger2 DeleteThis @woh.rr.com> wrote in message
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> "ks" <someone DeleteThis @somewhere.com> wrote in message
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>> Kinda nice to see the boat trailer better behind me.
>>
>
> In my years of towing things, I'm comfortable in knowing the (whatever) is
> hooked up correctly, safety pins in hitch and\or ball, safety chains
> installed and watch the mirror. I agree the camera might be nice for
> hooking up but after that it just looking at a hitch. Believe me, if you
> would happen to break the ball and your load hits the chains, your butt
> will know it faster than your eyes looking at a picture when you should be
> handling the situation.
>
> Denny
>
>

Yep, I broke a class three hitch last year. A guy pulled up along side of me
to say it didn't look right (on the freeway) I touched the brake and boom
the trailer hit me. Sucks when the safety changs are hooked to the hitch and
the hitch brakes free!
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Denny wrote:
> You power up the camera when it's
> not supposed to have power. It puts this info on the bus. Other
> modules see this info when nothing is supposed to be there and gets
> confused (for lack of better word) and do something strange.

Didn't someone mention isolating the power feed with a diode?
--
Ken
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:22:27 -0400, "nunya" <nunya DeleteThis @nunya.net> wrote:

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>"Roy" <Roy DeleteThis @home.net> wrote in message news:g620l601n9j@news5.newsguy.com...
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>>
>> I doubt there isn't anybody who hasn't done something to their truck or
>> car that hasn't been a bit illegal or pushed the warranty a bit. Hell, if
>> ya haven't well.....
>>
>> I don't really see the reasoning for this toy, but it's his toy let him
>> play with it. Just mho.
>>
>
>in georgia there is still a law on the books from the old hotrodding days.
>it says that you cannot perform any modifications to your vehicle from its
>stock configuration. a good attorney could have you for lunch just for
>running a different brand of tire on the vehicle than it was shipped with.
>got to be one of the most violated laws on the books. i posted the general
>law on the subject below but if you go a read each subsection of the code
>you will find that most vehicle modifications beyond factory and dealer
>options are illegal.
>michael
>
>
>§ 40-8-7. Driving unsafe or improperly equipped vehicle; punishment for
>violations of chapter generally; vehicle inspection by law enforcement
>officer without warrant
>
> (a) No person shall drive or move on any highway any motor vehicle,
>trailer, semitrailer, or pole trailer, or any combination thereof, unless
>the equipment upon any and every such vehicle is in good working order and
>adjustment as required in this chapter and the vehicle is in such safe
>mechanical condition as not to endanger the driver or other occupant or any
>person upon the highway.
>
>(b) It is a misdemeanor for any person to drive or move, or for the owner to
>cause or knowingly permit to be driven or moved, on any street or highway
>any vehicle or combination of vehicles:
>
> (1) Which is in such unsafe condition as to endanger any person;
>
> (2) Which does not contain those parts or is not at all times equipped
>with such lights and other equipment in proper condition and adjustment as
>required in this chapter; or
>
> (3) Which is equipped in any manner in violation of this chapter.
>
>(c) It is also a misdemeanor for any person to do any act forbidden or fail
>to perform any act required under this chapter.
>
>(d) Any vehicle suspected of being operated in violation of this article may
>be the subject of an inspection conducted by any law enforcement officer who
>has reason to believe such violation is occurring, without the necessity of
>obtaining a warrant to permit such inspection.
>

As I interpret the above, there is NO prohibition about modifying a
vehicle. All the above states is that the original safety equipment,
including lights etc must be in good operating condition. You are
reading too much into it.

Doug
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Nosey wrote:
> Denny wrote:
>> You power up the camera when it's
>> not supposed to have power. It puts this info on the bus. Other
>> modules see this info when nothing is supposed to be there and gets
>> confused (for lack of better word) and do something strange.
>
> Didn't someone mention isolating the power feed with a diode?

Yes - but Denny apparently was assuming that the bus communicated
directly with the camera. If that were true (which, from what others
are saying, is not), it would be hard to fool the bus into not knowing
whether the camera was powered up or not.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')
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"Doug" <sparks06524nospam DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>>§ 40-8-7. Driving unsafe or improperly equipped vehicle; punishment for
>>violations of chapter generally; vehicle inspection by law enforcement
>>officer without warrant
<snip>
>
> As I interpret the above, there is NO prohibition about modifying a
> vehicle. All the above states is that the original safety equipment,
> including lights etc must be in good operating condition. You are
> reading too much into it.
>
> Doug

Doug,
i snipped a lot of the other stuff. the key to this code is the sentence
i left this time. the "improperly equipped" and "violations of chapter"
statements refer you back to the preponderence of codes covering
modifications to vehicles. this chapter includes lifts, fog lights, and all
kinds of modifictions. i chose not to post the entire chapter, you can
google it if you want. if you dig down into all the applicable codes in
georgia, many common modifications are illegal.
michael
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