Poor Toyota

Mike hunt wrote:
> Of course you are not correct, the warranty expires in ten years. The
> Corolla IS the comparable car is size, not the Camry. When was the last
> time you went to a dealership and obtained a total drive home price,
> apparently not recently


Both the Camry and the Prius are considered midsize cars by the EPA.

Jeff

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> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Mike hunt wrote:
>>> Actually the price difference, to drive on home a Prius over a Corolla
>>> with the same equipment, is more like $8,500. That $8,500 will buy 2150
>>> gallons of gas, before one starts to save one penny on fuel.
>>>
>>> In ten years the Corolla owner will not need to spend another $5,000
>>> (1250 gallons)to replace the battery to be able to sell their car.
>> Neither will the Prius owner. If I am incorrect, please show the evidence
>> that there have been a lot of problems with batteries that have not been
>> covered by the warranty.
>>
>> However, the price difference between a Prius and a comparably equipped
>> Camry is about $4000 (MSRP) and probably about $6000 drive home price.
>> That is a better comparion, IMHO.
>>
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Wickeddoll® wrote:
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> I'm not buying a car for a long time, if I can help it. Maybe they'll make
> a better looking hybrid by then.
>
> Natalie

Maybe the should make the Camry into a hybrid.

JEff
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"Jeff" ...
> Wickeddoll® wrote:
> <...>
>
>> I'm not buying a car for a long time, if I can help it. Maybe they'll
>> make a better looking hybrid by then.
>>
>> Natalie
>
> Maybe the should make the Camry into a hybrid.
>
> Jeff
>
*fwap*

Natalie
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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Mike hunt wrote:
>> Of course you are not correct, the warranty expires in ten years. The
>> Corolla IS the comparable car is size, not the Camry. When was the last
>> time you went to a dealership and obtained a total drive home price,
>> apparently not recently
>
>
> Both the Camry and the Prius are considered midsize cars by the EPA.
>
> Jeff

While this is true, I think it is somewhat misleading. There is sufficent
room in the Prius for a large guy, but it does not feel nearly as roomy as a
Camry. In particualr it seems very narrow. No matter what the EPA says, it
is much closer in feel to a Corolla than a Camry.
Camry Prius Corolla
Passenger Volume 101 ft3 96 ft3 89 ft3
Luggage Volume 15 ft3 16 ft3 14 ft3

The reported numbers for the Prius passenger volume are in the middle
between the Camry and the Corolla. In my opinion, the Prius luggage capacity
is misleading. The CR rating show the Camry and Corolla has having more
luggage room than the Prius.

The Consumer Reports numbers for passenger room are:
Camry Prius Corolla
Front shoulder room, in 57.0 55.0 54.0
Front leg room, in 42.0 40.5 41.0
Front head room, in 5.0 5.0 4.0
Rear shoulder room, in 56.0 52.5 52.0
Rear fore-aft room, in 29.0 30.0 28.0
Rear head room, in 2.0 5.0 2.0

There is not really a lot of difference in the CR measurements among the
three cars, but it seems to me that the Prius is closer to the Corolla than
the Camry.

Ed
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"C. E. White" ...
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3zX5k.5784$7A1.2094@trndny04...
>> Mike hunt wrote:
>>> Of course you are not correct, the warranty expires in ten years. The
>>> Corolla IS the comparable car is size, not the Camry. When was the last
>>> time you went to a dealership and obtained a total drive home price,
>>> apparently not recently
>>
>> Both the Camry and the Prius are considered midsize cars by the EPA.
>> Jeff
>
> While this is true, I think it is somewhat misleading. There is sufficent
> room in the Prius for a large guy, but it does not feel nearly as roomy as
> a Camry. In particualr it seems very narrow. No matter what the EPA says,
> it is much closer in feel to a Corolla than a Camry.
> Camry Prius Corolla
> Passenger Volume 101 ft3 96 ft3 89 ft3
> Luggage Volume 15 ft3 16 ft3 14 ft3
>
> The reported numbers for the Prius passenger volume are in the middle
> between the Camry and the Corolla. In my opinion, the Prius luggage
> capacity is misleading. The CR rating show the Camry and Corolla has
> having more luggage room than the Prius.
>
> The Consumer Reports numbers for passenger room are:
> Camry Prius Corolla
> Front shoulder room, in 57.0 55.0 54.0
> Front leg room, in 42.0 40.5 41.0
> Front head room, in 5.0 5.0 4.0
> Rear shoulder room, in 56.0 52.5 52.0
> Rear fore-aft room, in 29.0 30.0 28.0
> Rear head room, in 2.0 5.0 2.0
>
> There is not really a lot of difference in the CR measurements among the
> three cars, but it seems to me that the Prius is closer to the Corolla
> than the Camry.
>
> Ed
I dunno, I ride in the back of my Prius and am rather comfortable. I was in
the back of a Camry last week and felt like I had to hunch and was not as
comfortable. I suppose it was the head room. Both seem wide enough for 2
folks.

I do not think that the luggage capacity is misleading at all. We can fit a
_lot_ of stuff in the Prius.
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"Tomes" <ask.me DeleteThis @here.net> wrote in message
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> I do not think that the luggage capacity is misleading at all. We can fit
> a _lot_ of stuff in the Prius.


With the rear up for passengers and without blocking the already restrictive
rear view?

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"Ed White" ...
> "Tomes" ...
>
>> I do not think that the luggage capacity is misleading at all. We can
>> fit a _lot_ of stuff in the Prius.
>
>
> With the rear up for passengers and without blocking the already
> restrictive rear view?
>
Of course the view out the rear is blocked. This is the same as filling up
a station wagon or any hatchback. I do not see this as a problem; I see it
as a benefit. It is a different style, different utility.

I also do not see the everyday rear viewing as a problem as one gets used to
it when one uses it regularly. I see plenty enough. It has an actual
advantage in that it blocks a lot of headlights that would otherwise make
rear viewing painful [especially those damn and illegal high beam DRLs].
Tomes
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