I have a flat tire and it won't come off!! '04 Corolla.

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:30:27 +0000, beastmaster wrote:

> I know, I know. YouÂ’re saying to yourself, "This guy has to be kidding,
> right? He canÂ’t even change a tire?" Well, let me elaborate before we
> start jumping to conclusions about my intelligence...
>
> I have an Â’04 Corolla S. Earlier in the evening today, after I got out of
> class, I noticed that I had a flat. IÂ’ve changed tires before, but this
> is my first flat with this car. I jacked up the car, took the five lug
> nuts off, tried to pull the tire off, but it wouldnÂ’t budge. I took the
> tire iron and tried to pry it off. No luck. My only guess is that there is
> another nut in the center hub of the wheel, but I canÂ’t get to it because
> thereÂ’s a cap over it.
>
> I was able to find someone with an air pump, and inflated my tire enough
> so that I could make it to the store and pick up some Fix-a-Flat. IÂ’m due
> to have the tires changed, so IÂ’ll have this taken care of tomorrow, but
> IÂ’d like to know for future reference how to get a tire off of my car!
>
> Has anyone else experienced this? Maybe you work at a shop and have dealt
> with this issue. Please, IÂ’m really confused.


Wow...an '04 and the wheel won't come off!

Rust is your enemy. When you get the wheel off, grease the hub and the
base of the lugs to prevent this from happening again.

I've had to hit tires with a sledgehammer so hard I thought I was going to
break the bead on the tire before the wheel loosened!
 >> Stay informed about: I have a flat tire and it won't come off!! '04 Corolla. 

thanks for clearing that up. there is a lot of rust on the hub where the tire bolts on. so, that makes sense.

too bad i don't carry a sledgehammer around with me.
 >> Stay informed about: I have a flat tire and it won't come off!! '04 Corolla. 

"beastmaster" <none RemoveThis @000.com> wrote in message
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>I know, I know. You're saying to yourself, "This guy has to be
> kidding, right? He can't even change a tire?" Well, let me elaborate
> before we start jumping to conclusions about my intelligence...
>
> I have an '04 Corolla S. Earlier in the evening today, after I got out
> of class, I noticed that I had a flat. I've changed tires before, but
> this is my first flat with this car. I jacked up the car, took the
> five lug nuts off, tried to pull the tire off, but it wouldn't budge.
> I took the tire iron and tried to pry it off. No luck. My only guess
> is that there is another nut in the center hub of the wheel, but I
> can't get to it because there's a cap over it.
>
> I was able to find someone with an air pump, and inflated my tire
> enough so that I could make it to the store and pick up some
> Fix-a-Flat. I'm due to have the tires changed, so I'll have this taken
> care of tomorrow, but I'd like to know for future reference how to get
> a tire off of my car!
>
> Has anyone else experienced this? Maybe you work at a shop and have
> dealt with this issue. Please, I'm really confused.

Tell them what happened at the store where you get the tire changed. Ask
them what the problem is and what they did to get the tire off. There
probably is just rust or something holding the tire on.

BTW, you should be able to look in your owner's manual. If there is an
additional nut or something you would have to do, the answer is there.
(There is not a center nut to take off; this holds the rotor on the car).

Jeff

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 >> Stay informed about: I have a flat tire and it won't come off!! '04 Corolla. 

beastmaster wrote:
> I know, I know. You’re saying to yourself, "This guy has to be
> kidding, right? He can’t even change a tire?" Well, let me elaborate
> before we start jumping to conclusions about my intelligence...
>
> I have an ’04 Corolla S. Earlier in the evening today, after I got out
> of class, I noticed that I had a flat. I’ve changed tires before, but
> this is my first flat with this car. I jacked up the car, took the
> five lug nuts off, tried to pull the tire off, but it wouldn’t budge.
> I took the tire iron and tried to pry it off. No luck. My only guess
> is that there is another nut in the center hub of the wheel, but I
> can’t get to it because there’s a cap over it.
>
> I was able to find someone with an air pump, and inflated my tire
> enough so that I could make it to the store and pick up some
> Fix-a-Flat. I’m due to have the tires changed, so I’ll have this taken
> care of tomorrow, but I’d like to know for future reference how to get
> a tire off of my car!
>
> Has anyone else experienced this? Maybe you work at a shop and have
> dealt with this issue. Please, I’m really confused.
>
Not unusual. Your driving conditions and time have corroded the wheels
to the hubs. I have had the same issues with other vehicles. Sometimes I
use a small sledge hammer and placing a wood board against the inside of
the rim with vehicle supported by my hoist. Other times I've had to
resort to a large slide hammer. If you try this yourself be patent and
careful not to strike so hard that you take a chance bending a rim. I
have had good luck using anit-seize lubricant between the rim and hub
prior to reassembly. You might want to check all the wheels on your car.
IMHO. Good luck.
 >> Stay informed about: I have a flat tire and it won't come off!! '04 Corolla. 

"beastmaster" <none.TakeThisOut@000.com> wrote in message
news:988995_9373f7e520e2f7d56dd9b2c625b8c1d9@autoboardz.com...
>I know, I know. You're saying to yourself, "This guy has to be
> kidding, right? He can't even change a tire?" Well, let me elaborate
> before we start jumping to conclusions about my intelligence...
>
> I have an '04 Corolla S. Earlier in the evening today, after I got out
> of class, I noticed that I had a flat. I've changed tires before, but
> this is my first flat with this car. I jacked up the car, took the
> five lug nuts off, tried to pull the tire off, but it wouldn't budge.
> I took the tire iron and tried to pry it off. No luck. My only guess
> is that there is another nut in the center hub of the wheel, but I
> can't get to it because there's a cap over it.
>
> I was able to find someone with an air pump, and inflated my tire
> enough so that I could make it to the store and pick up some
> Fix-a-Flat. I'm due to have the tires changed, so I'll have this taken
> care of tomorrow, but I'd like to know for future reference how to get
> a tire off of my car!
>
> Has anyone else experienced this? Maybe you work at a shop and have
> dealt with this issue. Please, I'm really confused.
>

Corrosion around the hub is probably holding the wheel on. If you have
alloy wheels, electrolytic action can almost weld the wheel to the rotor.
Besides the lug nuts, there is no other fasteners holding the wheel to the
car.

If you are on the road away from home when this happens, re-install the lug
nuts by hand until they are snug as you can get them by hand, then back off
1 or 2 turns. BTW, you want to do this at home if you are banging on the
wheel so the wheel doesn't go flying off when it comes loose. If you bang
on the wheel, use a 2 x 4 so the hammer is not striking the wheel or tire
directly.

Back to on the road... Drive slowly, making sudden turns of the steering
wheel away from the side with the problem wheel. If it is the front wheel,
pull up next to a curb and crank the steering wheel so the curb acts as a
fulcrum. When you hear the wheel pop, jack up the car and change the wheel.

To prevent a reoccurrence, apply wheel bearing grease or anti-seize around
the center hub and on the marks on the rotor or drum where the wheel
touches.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
 >> Stay informed about: I have a flat tire and it won't come off!! '04 Corolla. 

"Ph@Boy" <user.DeleteThis@example.net> wrote in message
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<...>

> Not unusual. Your driving conditions and time have corroded the wheels to
> the hubs. I have had the same issues with other vehicles. Sometimes I use
> a small sledge hammer and placing a wood board against the inside of the
> rim with vehicle supported by my hoist. Other times I've had to resort to
> a large slide hammer. If you try this yourself be patent and careful not
> to strike so hard that you take a chance bending a rim. I have had good
> luck using anit-seize lubricant between the rim and hub prior to
> reassembly. You might want to check all the wheels on your car. IMHO. Good
> luck.

You're better letting the shop do this. Unless the car is properly secured
it can be a crushing experience.

Jeff
 >> Stay informed about: I have a flat tire and it won't come off!! '04 Corolla. 

Jeff wrote:
>
> "Ph@Boy" <user RemoveThis @example.net> wrote in message
> news:54SdnffizOu8q2XYnZ2dnUVZ_vumnZ2d@trueband.net...
> <...>
>
>> Not unusual. Your driving conditions and time have corroded the wheels
>> to the hubs. I have had the same issues with other vehicles. Sometimes
>> I use a small sledge hammer and placing a wood board against the
>> inside of the rim with vehicle supported by my hoist. Other times I've
>> had to resort to a large slide hammer. If you try this yourself be
>> patent and careful not to strike so hard that you take a chance
>> bending a rim. I have had good luck using anit-seize lubricant between
>> the rim and hub prior to reassembly. You might want to check all the
>> wheels on your car. IMHO. Good luck.
>
> You're better letting the shop do this. Unless the car is properly
> secured it can be a crushing experience.
>
> Jeff
I am the shop.
 >> Stay informed about: I have a flat tire and it won't come off!! '04 Corolla. 

There should only be five, or four, lug nuts on that car. I'll go with four,
not five.





"beastmaster" <none RemoveThis @000.com> wrote in message
news:988995_9373f7e520e2f7d56dd9b2c625b8c1d9@autoboardz.com...
>I know, I know. You're saying to yourself, "This guy has to be
> kidding, right? He can't even change a tire?" Well, let me elaborate
> before we start jumping to conclusions about my intelligence...
>
> I have an '04 Corolla S. Earlier in the evening today, after I got out
> of class, I noticed that I had a flat. I've changed tires before, but
> this is my first flat with this car. I jacked up the car, took the
> five lug nuts off, tried to pull the tire off, but it wouldn't budge.
> I took the tire iron and tried to pry it off. No luck. My only guess
> is that there is another nut in the center hub of the wheel, but I
> can't get to it because there's a cap over it.
>
> I was able to find someone with an air pump, and inflated my tire
> enough so that I could make it to the store and pick up some
> Fix-a-Flat. I'm due to have the tires changed, so I'll have this taken
> care of tomorrow, but I'd like to know for future reference how to get
> a tire off of my car!
>
> Has anyone else experienced this? Maybe you work at a shop and have
> dealt with this issue. Please, I'm really confused.
>
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 >> Stay informed about: I have a flat tire and it won't come off!! '04 Corolla. 

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:48:16 -0500, Ray O wrote:

> If you are on the road away from home when this happens, re-install the
> lug nuts by hand until they are snug as you can get them by hand, then
> back off 1 or 2 turns. BTW, you want to do this at home if you are
> banging on the wheel so the wheel doesn't go flying off when it comes
> loose. If you bang on the wheel, use a 2 x 4 so the hammer is not
> striking the wheel or tire directly.


Great...now he tells me. Shoot, man I use a full blown sledgehammer!
Usually takes one or two blows on a Toyota...when I did the pads and
rotors on the Grand Caravan I thought I was going to knock the thing off
the friggin' jack stands..and it was a steel wheel!!
 >> Stay informed about: I have a flat tire and it won't come off!! '04 Corolla. 

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno.TakeThisOut@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:6F2Kh.5524$Hb6.3214@trndny03...
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:48:16 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>
>> If you are on the road away from home when this happens, re-install the
>> lug nuts by hand until they are snug as you can get them by hand, then
>> back off 1 or 2 turns. BTW, you want to do this at home if you are
>> banging on the wheel so the wheel doesn't go flying off when it comes
>> loose. If you bang on the wheel, use a 2 x 4 so the hammer is not
>> striking the wheel or tire directly.
>
>
> Great...now he tells me. Shoot, man I use a full blown sledgehammer!
> Usually takes one or two blows on a Toyota...when I did the pads and
> rotors on the Grand Caravan I thought I was going to knock the thing off
> the friggin' jack stands..and it was a steel wheel!!
>
If you are in a shop where customers can see what you are doing, they tend
to get excited when they see someone swinging a sledgehammer at their car
and see the wheel go flying off, hitting the car in the next stall. The 2 X
4 reduces the chance of damage to the wheel and tire and reduces the chance
that the hammer will bounce off the tire and come right back at you, and the
loose lug nuts keep the wheel from flying off. Voila! You've gone from
looking like the 3 Stooges to looking clever!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
 >> Stay informed about: I have a flat tire and it won't come off!! '04 Corolla. 

On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:57:49 -0500, Ray O wrote:

>
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno DeleteThis @AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:6F2Kh.5524$Hb6.3214@trndny03...
>> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:48:16 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>
>>> If you are on the road away from home when this happens, re-install the
>>> lug nuts by hand until they are snug as you can get them by hand, then
>>> back off 1 or 2 turns. BTW, you want to do this at home if you are
>>> banging on the wheel so the wheel doesn't go flying off when it comes
>>> loose. If you bang on the wheel, use a 2 x 4 so the hammer is not
>>> striking the wheel or tire directly.
>>
>>
>> Great...now he tells me. Shoot, man I use a full blown sledgehammer!
>> Usually takes one or two blows on a Toyota...when I did the pads and
>> rotors on the Grand Caravan I thought I was going to knock the thing off
>> the friggin' jack stands..and it was a steel wheel!!
>>
> If you are in a shop where customers can see what you are doing, they tend
> to get excited when they see someone swinging a sledgehammer at their car
> and see the wheel go flying off, hitting the car in the next stall. The 2
> X 4 reduces the chance of damage to the wheel and tire and reduces the
> chance that the hammer will bounce off the tire and come right back at
> you, and the loose lug nuts keep the wheel from flying off. Voila!
> You've gone from looking like the 3 Stooges to looking clever!


These are my cars, in my backyard..!
 >> Stay informed about: I have a flat tire and it won't come off!! '04 Corolla. 

"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno.DeleteThis@AE86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 22:57:49 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>
>>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno.DeleteThis@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:6F2Kh.5524$Hb6.3214@trndny03...
>>> On Wed, 14 Mar 2007 15:48:16 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you are on the road away from home when this happens, re-install the
>>>> lug nuts by hand until they are snug as you can get them by hand, then
>>>> back off 1 or 2 turns. BTW, you want to do this at home if you are
>>>> banging on the wheel so the wheel doesn't go flying off when it comes
>>>> loose. If you bang on the wheel, use a 2 x 4 so the hammer is not
>>>> striking the wheel or tire directly.
>>>
>>>
>>> Great...now he tells me. Shoot, man I use a full blown sledgehammer!
>>> Usually takes one or two blows on a Toyota...when I did the pads and
>>> rotors on the Grand Caravan I thought I was going to knock the thing off
>>> the friggin' jack stands..and it was a steel wheel!!
>>>
>> If you are in a shop where customers can see what you are doing, they
>> tend
>> to get excited when they see someone swinging a sledgehammer at their car
>> and see the wheel go flying off, hitting the car in the next stall. The
>> 2
>> X 4 reduces the chance of damage to the wheel and tire and reduces the
>> chance that the hammer will bounce off the tire and come right back at
>> you, and the loose lug nuts keep the wheel from flying off. Voila!
>> You've gone from looking like the 3 Stooges to looking clever!
>
>
> These are my cars, in my backyard..!
>

Oh, do the loosen the lug nuts and drive around trick then
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
 >> Stay informed about: I have a flat tire and it won't come off!! '04 Corolla. 

Jeff Strickland wrote:
> There should only be five, or four, lug nuts on that car. I'll go with
> four, not five.
>
>
>
>
>
> "beastmaster" <none.DeleteThis@000.com> wrote in message
> news:988995_9373f7e520e2f7d56dd9b2c625b8c1d9@autoboardz.com...
>> I know, I know. You're saying to yourself, "This guy has to be
>> kidding, right? He can't even change a tire?" Well, let me elaborate
>> before we start jumping to conclusions about my intelligence...
>>
>> I have an '04 Corolla S. Earlier in the evening today, after I got out
>> of class, I noticed that I had a flat. I've changed tires before, but
>> this is my first flat with this car. I jacked up the car, took the
>> five lug nuts off, tried to pull the tire off, but it wouldn't budge.
>> I took the tire iron and tried to pry it off. No luck. My only guess
>> is that there is another nut in the center hub of the wheel, but I
>> can't get to it because there's a cap over it.
>>
>> I was able to find someone with an air pump, and inflated my tire
>> enough so that I could make it to the store and pick up some
>> Fix-a-Flat. I'm due to have the tires changed, so I'll have this taken
>> care of tomorrow, but I'd like to know for future reference how to get
>> a tire off of my car!
>>
>> Has anyone else experienced this? Maybe you work at a shop and have
>> dealt with this issue. Please, I'm really confused.
>>
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>
I carry one of those little air pumps in all my vehicles. I don't
need them often but they are very handy to have when you need one. I've
had wheels stuck also, one was on an old pickup and it must have been
on there for 15 years, the owner finally had to find someone with a
torch to heat it or cut it off. That was the worst one I've ever run
across. I grease the back of aluminum wheels or the contact surface to
prevent this when I replace a wheel. Any time steel and aluminum
contact, grease is your friend.
 >> Stay informed about: I have a flat tire and it won't come off!! '04 Corolla.