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Wayne Brown

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:08 pm
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My wife is detemined to buy a Honda CRV. I am opposed.

Can anybody out there give me some ammunition to discourage her???

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:17 am
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The CRV is an absolutely great car. What's so bad about it?

P.S. You might not want to post this question to a Honda group.
Generally, most Honda group members will support Honda cars (with the
slight exception of the Passport).

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:01 am
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Wayne Brown wrote:
> My wife is detemined to buy a Honda CRV. I am opposed.

then get a divorce. if your communication is so poor that you have to
ask questions like that here, it's the best thing for both of you.

> Can anybody out there give me some ammunition to discourage her???

no, you have to buy it yourself, buddy. walmart sells it.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:52 pm
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Wayne Brown wrote:
> My wife is detemined to buy a Honda CRV. I am opposed.
>
> Can anybody out there give me some ammunition to discourage her???

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Why are you opposed? Don't think she deserves to feel safe when she's
driving by herself? Got a problem with a vehicle that has the best
resale value around?

'Curly'
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Wayne Brown

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:21 pm
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Not much point in asking the question in a group where people don't drive
the car.

"Larry in AZ" wrote in message

> Waiving the right to remain silent, "Wayne Brown"
> said:
>
>> My wife is detemined to buy a Honda CRV. I am opposed.
>>
>> Can anybody out there give me some ammunition to discourage her???
>
> Try a Toyota group...
>
> --
> Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail
>
> "I've come here to enjoy nature. Don't talk to me
> about the environment!" - 'Denny Crane'
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:22 am
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Wayne Brown wrote:
> Not much point in asking the question in a group where people don't drive
> the car.

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H m m m. Provides no information, then insults us.

Get her a used Hyundai Pony.

'Curly'
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N.E.Ohio Bob

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:31 am
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Wayne Brown wrote:

> My wife is detemined to buy a Honda CRV. I am opposed.
>
> Can anybody out there give me some ammunition to discourage her???
>
>
Is she under the impression that the CRV is harder to roll over in a
crash than an Accord? Does she think the car is better in a side impact?
Does she think it stops better? Does she like to be up high where she
can see over the other cars? Does she think the CRV holds more stuff
than a four door Accord?
Or does she think the CRV is a nicer looking vehicle? bob
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D.D. Pallmer

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:22 pm
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Two years ago, I bot a 2005 CR-V Special Edition (top o' the line) to have
as a 3rd family vehicle that my then 15 year old daughter would, shortly,
drive primarily. My thinking was that eventually I'd give her that car as a
junior or senior in college. My wife drives a Mercury Mountaineer (Explorer)
and I drive a luxury car. So the CR-V also serves as my "daily runner" when
I don't want my "good" car out.
Ford Escape/Mercury Mariner were also on my list but I asked myself this one
question: Which vehicle, in 5,6 7 years from now, will will have the best
odds against generating "Dad, my car is making this noise/dummy light is
on/won't run/the dealer says needs a $2000 repair". While I knew intuitively
that Honda was the answer, a timely article said that an 8 year old Honda
had fewer defects than a 3 year old Ford. Case closed.

Well, the 2005 was a great vehicle. Got 20MPG in Pittsburgh hills, versus 13
on the Mountaineer. I felt that if I was going to feed a 3rd vehicle, I
wanted AWD...this is PITTSBURGH. But I did not want another piggie like the
Mountaineer. Yet I still wanted something big(ish) and safe enough so that
when my affluent suburban neighbor's SUBURBAN/ESCALADE run into my CR-V, we
would stand a chance. The side curtain air bags and stability control give
me SOME confidence in this respect. I certainly would NOT put myself or my
kid into anything smaller, at least not as long as the Jones are driving
Suburbans and Hummers.

Well, I took the CR-V in for an oil change and saw the 2007 model. One thing
led to another and I traded. (Honda resale value on the old vehicle, by the
way, was the deal-clenching factor....our Mountaineer was worth about half
in just 2 years...the 2005 CR-V was worth MUCH more. If you keep them
forever as per my original plan, it doesn't matter but if you are a 2-4 year
holder than resale actually makes the higher upfront priced Honda/Toyota
cheaper to own for that period than the competition that depreciates much
faster).

The 2007 rides like a "real car". The 2005 was OK, but you could feel the
bumps like a "small car". For $26,000 (top 'o the line EX-L) you get about
85% of a Lexus ES330 for only 60% of the cost. Honda's got a MAJOR winner
here. The current plan is, again, for my kid to get this vehicle in a few
years OR my wife might take it over when my daughter goes to college and our
Mountaineer will be 6-7 years old and we'll get our daughter something else
(or another CR-V) when the time comes. My point is that the 2005 was not
"good enough" to be my wife's "primary" vehicle...it was a great "3rd
vehicle". But the 2007 reaches "primary vehicle status". The ride is SO much
improved. Same great gas mileage too.

Did I answer your question?

"Wayne Brown" wrote in message

> My wife is detemined to buy a Honda CRV. I am opposed.
>
> Can anybody out there give me some ammunition to discourage her???
>
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Wayne Brown

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 11:54 pm
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Your point about the primary vehicle is interesting. This would be our
family's primary vehicle and since we cannot afford "new" we would probably
end up with a 2004 or 2005 model.

Perhaps your point will push her into another Accord.

Thanx.



"D.D. Pallmer" wrote in message

> Two years ago, I bot a 2005 CR-V Special Edition (top o' the line) to have
> as a 3rd family vehicle that my then 15 year old daughter would, shortly,
> drive primarily. My thinking was that eventually I'd give her that car as
> a
> junior or senior in college. My wife drives a Mercury Mountaineer
> (Explorer)
> and I drive a luxury car. So the CR-V also serves as my "daily runner"
> when
> I don't want my "good" car out.
> Ford Escape/Mercury Mariner were also on my list but I asked myself this
> one
> question: Which vehicle, in 5,6 7 years from now, will will have the best
> odds against generating "Dad, my car is making this noise/dummy light is
> on/won't run/the dealer says needs a $2000 repair". While I knew
> intuitively
> that Honda was the answer, a timely article said that an 8 year old Honda
> had fewer defects than a 3 year old Ford. Case closed.
>
> Well, the 2005 was a great vehicle. Got 20MPG in Pittsburgh hills, versus
> 13
> on the Mountaineer. I felt that if I was going to feed a 3rd vehicle, I
> wanted AWD...this is PITTSBURGH. But I did not want another piggie like
> the
> Mountaineer. Yet I still wanted something big(ish) and safe enough so that
> when my affluent suburban neighbor's SUBURBAN/ESCALADE run into my CR-V,
> we
> would stand a chance. The side curtain air bags and stability control give
> me SOME confidence in this respect. I certainly would NOT put myself or my
> kid into anything smaller, at least not as long as the Jones are driving
> Suburbans and Hummers.
>
> Well, I took the CR-V in for an oil change and saw the 2007 model. One
> thing
> led to another and I traded. (Honda resale value on the old vehicle, by
> the
> way, was the deal-clenching factor....our Mountaineer was worth about half
> in just 2 years...the 2005 CR-V was worth MUCH more. If you keep them
> forever as per my original plan, it doesn't matter but if you are a 2-4
> year
> holder than resale actually makes the higher upfront priced Honda/Toyota
> cheaper to own for that period than the competition that depreciates much
> faster).
>
> The 2007 rides like a "real car". The 2005 was OK, but you could feel the
> bumps like a "small car". For $26,000 (top 'o the line EX-L) you get about
> 85% of a Lexus ES330 for only 60% of the cost. Honda's got a MAJOR winner
> here. The current plan is, again, for my kid to get this vehicle in a few
> years OR my wife might take it over when my daughter goes to college and
> our
> Mountaineer will be 6-7 years old and we'll get our daughter something
> else
> (or another CR-V) when the time comes. My point is that the 2005 was not
> "good enough" to be my wife's "primary" vehicle...it was a great "3rd
> vehicle". But the 2007 reaches "primary vehicle status". The ride is SO
> much
> improved. Same great gas mileage too.
>
> Did I answer your question?
>
> "Wayne Brown" wrote in message
>
>> My wife is detemined to buy a Honda CRV. I am opposed.
>>
>> Can anybody out there give me some ammunition to discourage her???
>>
>
>
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D.D. Pallmer

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 5:36 pm
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Well, don't get me wrong. The '05 CR-V was a great vehicle. MANY would
consider it a "primary" vehicle. I admit to being spoiled. By my point was
that even "being spoiled", the '07 rises to "primary" status FOR ME.

If I were you, I'd "stretch" for the '07. You can drive it 10-15 years. A
2-3 year old one will last 8-12 more years, but will cost close to a new
one. Even if you have to finance over a longer period of time, you're better
off in the latest model. If you amortize the additional cost of the new
vehicle (versus an '04-'05) over all those years, the difference is
negligible. The value curve favors the brand spankin' new '07. THAT'S WHY I
TRADED IN MY '05 FOR THE '07!


"Wayne Brown" wrote in message

> Your point about the primary vehicle is interesting. This would be our
> family's primary vehicle and since we cannot afford "new" we would
> probably end up with a 2004 or 2005 model.
>
> Perhaps your point will push her into another Accord.
>
> Thanx.
>
>
>
> "D.D. Pallmer" wrote in message
>
>> Two years ago, I bot a 2005 CR-V Special Edition (top o' the line) to
>> have
>> as a 3rd family vehicle that my then 15 year old daughter would, shortly,
>> drive primarily. My thinking was that eventually I'd give her that car as
>> a
>> junior or senior in college. My wife drives a Mercury Mountaineer
>> (Explorer)
>> and I drive a luxury car. So the CR-V also serves as my "daily runner"
>> when
>> I don't want my "good" car out.
>> Ford Escape/Mercury Mariner were also on my list but I asked myself this
>> one
>> question: Which vehicle, in 5,6 7 years from now, will will have the best
>> odds against generating "Dad, my car is making this noise/dummy light is
>> on/won't run/the dealer says needs a $2000 repair". While I knew
>> intuitively
>> that Honda was the answer, a timely article said that an 8 year old Honda
>> had fewer defects than a 3 year old Ford. Case closed.
>>
>> Well, the 2005 was a great vehicle. Got 20MPG in Pittsburgh hills, versus
>> 13
>> on the Mountaineer. I felt that if I was going to feed a 3rd vehicle, I
>> wanted AWD...this is PITTSBURGH. But I did not want another piggie like
>> the
>> Mountaineer. Yet I still wanted something big(ish) and safe enough so
>> that
>> when my affluent suburban neighbor's SUBURBAN/ESCALADE run into my CR-V,
>> we
>> would stand a chance. The side curtain air bags and stability control
>> give
>> me SOME confidence in this respect. I certainly would NOT put myself or
>> my
>> kid into anything smaller, at least not as long as the Jones are driving
>> Suburbans and Hummers.
>>
>> Well, I took the CR-V in for an oil change and saw the 2007 model. One
>> thing
>> led to another and I traded. (Honda resale value on the old vehicle, by
>> the
>> way, was the deal-clenching factor....our Mountaineer was worth about
>> half
>> in just 2 years...the 2005 CR-V was worth MUCH more. If you keep them
>> forever as per my original plan, it doesn't matter but if you are a 2-4
>> year
>> holder than resale actually makes the higher upfront priced Honda/Toyota
>> cheaper to own for that period than the competition that depreciates much
>> faster).
>>
>> The 2007 rides like a "real car". The 2005 was OK, but you could feel the
>> bumps like a "small car". For $26,000 (top 'o the line EX-L) you get
>> about
>> 85% of a Lexus ES330 for only 60% of the cost. Honda's got a MAJOR winner
>> here. The current plan is, again, for my kid to get this vehicle in a few
>> years OR my wife might take it over when my daughter goes to college and
>> our
>> Mountaineer will be 6-7 years old and we'll get our daughter something
>> else
>> (or another CR-V) when the time comes. My point is that the 2005 was not
>> "good enough" to be my wife's "primary" vehicle...it was a great "3rd
>> vehicle". But the 2007 reaches "primary vehicle status". The ride is SO
>> much
>> improved. Same great gas mileage too.
>>
>> Did I answer your question?
>>
>> "Wayne Brown" wrote in message
>>
>>> My wife is detemined to buy a Honda CRV. I am opposed.
>>>
>>> Can anybody out there give me some ammunition to discourage her???
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 12:56 pm
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On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:54:45 -0600, "Wayne Brown"
wrote:

>Your point about the primary vehicle is interesting. This would be our
>family's primary vehicle and since we cannot afford "new" we would probably
>end up with a 2004 or 2005 model.
>
>Perhaps your point will push her into another Accord.
>
>Thanx.


We've got on '05 CR-V SE. Best car, by far, that I've ever owned.
We're going to go down to one vehicle, and the CR-V can't do what we
want, so it's got to go, but I'll sure miss it.

bb
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:19 am
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Seems like the CR-V is a good way to go. Why are you opposed.

Lots of happy owners on CR-V Owners Club from what I can see too.

"Wayne Brown" wrote in message

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>
> Can anybody out there give me some ammunition to discourage her???
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:36 pm
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I am just an ornery old man who spends a lot of time being annoyed by
pick-up trucks and SUVS that block my view when I am driving, and, as far as
I am concerned, present a hazard in parking lots. One more SUV on the road
would not be something I am in favour of. Of course, the reverse is also
true; if everyone drove SUVs and pick-up trucks, that would also eliminate
the problem.

We are on our 2nd Accord and I am trying to convince her to get another one.

"garray" wrote in message

> Seems like the CR-V is a good way to go. Why are you opposed.
>
> Lots of happy owners on CR-V Owners Club from what I can see too.
>
> "Wayne Brown" wrote in message
>
>> My wife is detemined to buy a Honda CRV. I am opposed.
>>
>> Can anybody out there give me some ammunition to discourage her???
>>
>
>
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