d15b2 idling/running problems

When is the last time the ignition wires and plugs were
replaced? Are the current ones OEM? If it's been awhile,
replace with OEM. Also replace the distributor cap and
rotor, and check the timing. One of the most common
solutions here for rough running is simply a basic tuneup
with OEM parts. The OEM parts here BTW do pay for themselves
in longevity.

You could do a resistance check of all wires and report
back. Maybe it is indeed #2 wire that's bad (or particularly
bad)?

Next I would suspect the O2 sensor. For the d15b2 (which my
Civic has), IIRC a malfunctioning O2 sensor does not
necessarily set off the CEL etc. The O2 sensor is cheap
enough for this engine that a pre-emptive replacement is not
a bad idea at all.

See http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id11.html for
more discussion of the above and some other tips.

Elle
Original owner, 1991 Civic LX (engine d15b2), 200k miles


<ktetchlogger.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote
> Update - I started the engine, and pulled the plug wires
> out one by
> one - seems to be something with cyl2
>
> On Nov 1, 5:02 pm, ktetchlog....DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
>> Got an 88 civic, d15b2 engine
>>
>> Last 2 days, its started having very lumpy running. Its
>> shakey at
>> idle, and feels like its missing yet the check engine
>> doesn't come on
>> (as it does usually when it misfires)
>>
>> it appears to have a loss of power, and be rough
>> accelerating, unless
>> when going, you ease off the accelerator, where it
>> smooths down, and
>> if you gently ease the accelerator down, it runs fairly
>> smooth. goes
>> back to lumpy if its pressed down harder. It also seems
>> to be a lot
>> smoother at higher engine revs.
>>
>> Happened only about 2 days ago, during a run down a
>> country road,
>> stopped at a railroad corssing, and it was suddenly like
>> this.
>>
>> hope someone can give me some hints
>> thx.
 >> Stay informed about: d15b2 idling/running problems 

yeah, spark's good, as are the wires

i've just pulled the plugs and #2's black, carbon fouling. I put new
plugs in 2 weeks ago, when i changed the timing belt, its since done
1000 until this problem showed up 2 days ago (we had a lot of places
to go, and we live in a rural area - going to walmart's a 55 mile
roundtrip)

its an 88 civic, and 255k miles on it.


On Nov 1, 6:35 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion....RemoveThis@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> When is the last time the ignition wires and plugs were
> replaced? Are the current ones OEM? If it's been awhile,
> replace with OEM. Also replace the distributor cap and
> rotor, and check the timing. One of the most common
> solutions here for rough running is simply a basic tuneup
> with OEM parts. The OEM parts here BTW do pay for themselves
> in longevity.
>
> You could do a resistance check of all wires and report
> back. Maybe it is indeed #2 wire that's bad (or particularly
> bad)?
>
> Next I would suspect the O2 sensor. For the d15b2 (which my
> Civic has), IIRC a malfunctioning O2 sensor does not
> necessarily set off the CEL etc. The O2 sensor is cheap
> enough for this engine that a pre-emptive replacement is not
> a bad idea at all.
>
> Seehttp://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id11.htmlfor
> more discussion of the above and some other tips.
>
> Elle
> Original owner, 1991 Civic LX (engine d15b2), 200k miles
>
> <ktetchlog....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > Update - I started the engine, and pulled the plug wires
> > out one by
> > one - seems to be something with cyl2
>
> > On Nov 1, 5:02 pm, ktetchlog....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Got an 88 civic, d15b2 engine
>
> >> Last 2 days, its started having very lumpy running. Its
> >> shakey at
> >> idle, and feels like its missing yet the check engine
> >> doesn't come on
> >> (as it does usually when it misfires)
>
> >> it appears to have a loss of power, and be rough
> >> accelerating, unless
> >> when going, you ease off the accelerator, where it
> >> smooths down, and
> >> if you gently ease the accelerator down, it runs fairly
> >> smooth. goes
> >> back to lumpy if its pressed down harder. It also seems
> >> to be a lot
> >> smoother at higher engine revs.
>
> >> Happened only about 2 days ago, during a run down a
> >> country road,
> >> stopped at a railroad corssing, and it was suddenly like
> >> this.
>
> >> hope someone can give me some hints
> >> thx.
 >> Stay informed about: d15b2 idling/running problems 

Another followup - looks like compression

I've no compression tester, but when i pulled the #2 wire, with it
running, it was blowing out of the hole - the plug was still in. 3 and
4 aren't, but 1 is not as much, and yet 1 is still running/firing

On Nov 1, 6:54 pm, misti.carpen... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> yeah, spark's good, as are the wires
>
> i've just pulled the plugs and #2's black, carbon fouling. I put new
> plugs in 2 weeks ago, when i changed the timing belt, its since done
> 1000 until this problem showed up 2 days ago (we had a lot of places
> to go, and we live in a rural area - going to walmart's a 55 mile
> roundtrip)
>
> its an 88 civic, and 255k miles on it.
>
> On Nov 1, 6:35 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion... RemoveThis @nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > When is the last time the ignition wires and plugs were
> > replaced? Are the current ones OEM? If it's been awhile,
> > replace with OEM. Also replace the distributor cap and
> > rotor, and check the timing. One of the most common
> > solutions here for rough running is simply a basic tuneup
> > with OEM parts. The OEM parts here BTW do pay for themselves
> > in longevity.
>
> > You could do a resistance check of all wires and report
> > back. Maybe it is indeed #2 wire that's bad (or particularly
> > bad)?
>
> > Next I would suspect the O2 sensor. For the d15b2 (which my
> > Civic has), IIRC a malfunctioning O2 sensor does not
> > necessarily set off the CEL etc. The O2 sensor is cheap
> > enough for this engine that a pre-emptive replacement is not
> > a bad idea at all.
>
> > Seehttp://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id11.htmlfor
> > more discussion of the above and some other tips.
>
> > Elle
> > Original owner, 1991 Civic LX (engine d15b2), 200k miles
>
> > <ktetchlog... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote
>
> > > Update - I started the engine, and pulled the plug wires
> > > out one by
> > > one - seems to be something with cyl2
>
> > > On Nov 1, 5:02 pm, ktetchlog... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> > >> Got an 88 civic, d15b2 engine
>
> > >> Last 2 days, its started having very lumpy running. Its
> > >> shakey at
> > >> idle, and feels like its missing yet the check engine
> > >> doesn't come on
> > >> (as it does usually when it misfires)
>
> > >> it appears to have a loss of power, and be rough
> > >> accelerating, unless
> > >> when going, you ease off the accelerator, where it
> > >> smooths down, and
> > >> if you gently ease the accelerator down, it runs fairly
> > >> smooth. goes
> > >> back to lumpy if its pressed down harder. It also seems
> > >> to be a lot
> > >> smoother at higher engine revs.
>
> > >> Happened only about 2 days ago, during a run down a
> > >> country road,
> > >> stopped at a railroad corssing, and it was suddenly like
> > >> this.
>
> > >> hope someone can give me some hints
> > >> thx.
 >> Stay informed about: d15b2 idling/running problems 

ktetchlogger.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> Another followup - looks like compression
>
> I've no compression tester, but when i pulled the #2 wire, with it
> running, it was blowing out of the hole

blowing out of what hole?

seriously dude, it's impossible to offer advice if you're not describing
the symptoms properly and just guessing possible causes.


> - the plug was still in. 3 and
> 4 aren't, but 1 is not as much, and yet 1 is still running/firing
>
> On Nov 1, 6:54 pm, misti.carpen....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>> yeah, spark's good, as are the wires
>>
>> i've just pulled the plugs and #2's black, carbon fouling. I put new
>> plugs in 2 weeks ago, when i changed the timing belt, its since done
>> 1000 until this problem showed up 2 days ago (we had a lot of places
>> to go, and we live in a rural area - going to walmart's a 55 mile
>> roundtrip)
>>
>> its an 88 civic, and 255k miles on it.
>>
>> On Nov 1, 6:35 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion....RemoveThis@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> When is the last time the ignition wires and plugs were
>>> replaced? Are the current ones OEM? If it's been awhile,
>>> replace with OEM. Also replace the distributor cap and
>>> rotor, and check the timing. One of the most common
>>> solutions here for rough running is simply a basic tuneup
>>> with OEM parts. The OEM parts here BTW do pay for themselves
>>> in longevity.
>>> You could do a resistance check of all wires and report
>>> back. Maybe it is indeed #2 wire that's bad (or particularly
>>> bad)?
>>> Next I would suspect the O2 sensor. For the d15b2 (which my
>>> Civic has), IIRC a malfunctioning O2 sensor does not
>>> necessarily set off the CEL etc. The O2 sensor is cheap
>>> enough for this engine that a pre-emptive replacement is not
>>> a bad idea at all.
>>> Seehttp://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id11.htmlfor
>>> more discussion of the above and some other tips.
>>> Elle
>>> Original owner, 1991 Civic LX (engine d15b2), 200k miles
>>> <ktetchlog....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Update - I started the engine, and pulled the plug wires
>>>> out one by
>>>> one - seems to be something with cyl2
>>>> On Nov 1, 5:02 pm, ktetchlog....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Got an 88 civic, d15b2 engine
>>>>> Last 2 days, its started having very lumpy running. Its
>>>>> shakey at
>>>>> idle, and feels like its missing yet the check engine
>>>>> doesn't come on
>>>>> (as it does usually when it misfires)
>>>>> it appears to have a loss of power, and be rough
>>>>> accelerating, unless
>>>>> when going, you ease off the accelerator, where it
>>>>> smooths down, and
>>>>> if you gently ease the accelerator down, it runs fairly
>>>>> smooth. goes
>>>>> back to lumpy if its pressed down harder. It also seems
>>>>> to be a lot
>>>>> smoother at higher engine revs.
>>>>> Happened only about 2 days ago, during a run down a
>>>>> country road,
>>>>> stopped at a railroad corssing, and it was suddenly like
>>>>> this.
>>>>> hope someone can give me some hints
>>>>> thx.
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: d15b2 idling/running problems 

On Nov 2, 12:57 am, jim beam <spamvor... RemoveThis @bad.example.net> wrote:
> ktetchlog... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> > Another followup - looks like compression
>
> > I've no compression tester, but when i pulled the #2 wire, with it
> > running, it was blowing out of the hole
>
> blowing out of what hole?

I'm not sure how your engine is designed, but generally, when I pull a
spark plug wire out of an engine, thats about the only 'hole' there
is, that being the hole the spark plug wire goes into. If you have
additional holes in your engine, Maybe you should seek another engine.

>
> seriously dude, it's impossible to offer advice if you're not describing
> the symptoms properly and just guessing possible causes.
>
> > - the plug was still in. 3 and
> > 4 aren't, but 1 is not as much, and yet 1 is still running/firing
>
> > On Nov 1, 6:54 pm, misti.carpen... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> >> yeah, spark's good, as are the wires
>
> >> i've just pulled the plugs and #2's black, carbon fouling. I put new
> >> plugs in 2 weeks ago, when i changed the timing belt, its since done
> >> 1000 until this problem showed up 2 days ago (we had a lot of places
> >> to go, and we live in a rural area - going to walmart's a 55 mile
> >> roundtrip)
>
> >> its an 88 civic, and 255k miles on it.
>
> >> On Nov 1, 6:35 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion... RemoveThis @nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>> When is the last time the ignition wires and plugs were
> >>> replaced? Are the current ones OEM? If it's been awhile,
> >>> replace with OEM. Also replace the distributor cap and
> >>> rotor, and check the timing. One of the most common
> >>> solutions here for rough running is simply a basic tuneup
> >>> with OEM parts. The OEM parts here BTW do pay for themselves
> >>> in longevity.
> >>> You could do a resistance check of all wires and report
> >>> back. Maybe it is indeed #2 wire that's bad (or particularly
> >>> bad)?
> >>> Next I would suspect the O2 sensor. For the d15b2 (which my
> >>> Civic has), IIRC a malfunctioning O2 sensor does not
> >>> necessarily set off the CEL etc. The O2 sensor is cheap
> >>> enough for this engine that a pre-emptive replacement is not
> >>> a bad idea at all.
> >>> Seehttp://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id11.htmlfor
> >>> more discussion of the above and some other tips.
> >>> Elle
> >>> Original owner, 1991 Civic LX (engine d15b2), 200k miles
> >>> <ktetchlog... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote
> >>>> Update - I started the engine, and pulled the plug wires
> >>>> out one by
> >>>> one - seems to be something with cyl2
> >>>> On Nov 1, 5:02 pm, ktetchlog... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> Got an 88 civic, d15b2 engine
> >>>>> Last 2 days, its started having very lumpy running. Its
> >>>>> shakey at
> >>>>> idle, and feels like its missing yet the check engine
> >>>>> doesn't come on
> >>>>> (as it does usually when it misfires)
> >>>>> it appears to have a loss of power, and be rough
> >>>>> accelerating, unless
> >>>>> when going, you ease off the accelerator, where it
> >>>>> smooths down, and
> >>>>> if you gently ease the accelerator down, it runs fairly
> >>>>> smooth. goes
> >>>>> back to lumpy if its pressed down harder. It also seems
> >>>>> to be a lot
> >>>>> smoother at higher engine revs.
> >>>>> Happened only about 2 days ago, during a run down a
> >>>>> country road,
> >>>>> stopped at a railroad corssing, and it was suddenly like
> >>>>> this.
> >>>>> hope someone can give me some hints
> >>>>> thx.
 >> Stay informed about: d15b2 idling/running problems 

ktetchlogger.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 2, 12:57 am, jim beam <spamvor....TakeThisOut@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> ktetchlog....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Another followup - looks like compression
>>> I've no compression tester, but when i pulled the #2 wire, with it
>>> running, it was blowing out of the hole
>> blowing out of what hole?
>
> I'm not sure how your engine is designed, but generally, when I pull a
> spark plug wire out of an engine, thats about the only 'hole' there
> is, that being the hole the spark plug wire goes into. If you have
> additional holes in your engine, Maybe you should seek another engine.

finally, you have revealed information that clues in exactly what the
problem is. if only you'd have done that before being such a jackass.



>
>> seriously dude, it's impossible to offer advice if you're not describing
>> the symptoms properly and just guessing possible causes.
>>
>>> - the plug was still in. 3 and
>>> 4 aren't, but 1 is not as much, and yet 1 is still running/firing
>>> On Nov 1, 6:54 pm, misti.carpen....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> yeah, spark's good, as are the wires
>>>> i've just pulled the plugs and #2's black, carbon fouling. I put new
>>>> plugs in 2 weeks ago, when i changed the timing belt, its since done
>>>> 1000 until this problem showed up 2 days ago (we had a lot of places
>>>> to go, and we live in a rural area - going to walmart's a 55 mile
>>>> roundtrip)
>>>> its an 88 civic, and 255k miles on it.
>>>> On Nov 1, 6:35 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion....TakeThisOut@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> When is the last time the ignition wires and plugs were
>>>>> replaced? Are the current ones OEM? If it's been awhile,
>>>>> replace with OEM. Also replace the distributor cap and
>>>>> rotor, and check the timing. One of the most common
>>>>> solutions here for rough running is simply a basic tuneup
>>>>> with OEM parts. The OEM parts here BTW do pay for themselves
>>>>> in longevity.
>>>>> You could do a resistance check of all wires and report
>>>>> back. Maybe it is indeed #2 wire that's bad (or particularly
>>>>> bad)?
>>>>> Next I would suspect the O2 sensor. For the d15b2 (which my
>>>>> Civic has), IIRC a malfunctioning O2 sensor does not
>>>>> necessarily set off the CEL etc. The O2 sensor is cheap
>>>>> enough for this engine that a pre-emptive replacement is not
>>>>> a bad idea at all.
>>>>> Seehttp://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id11.htmlfor
>>>>> more discussion of the above and some other tips.
>>>>> Elle
>>>>> Original owner, 1991 Civic LX (engine d15b2), 200k miles
>>>>> <ktetchlog....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Update - I started the engine, and pulled the plug wires
>>>>>> out one by
>>>>>> one - seems to be something with cyl2
>>>>>> On Nov 1, 5:02 pm, ktetchlog....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> Got an 88 civic, d15b2 engine
>>>>>>> Last 2 days, its started having very lumpy running. Its
>>>>>>> shakey at
>>>>>>> idle, and feels like its missing yet the check engine
>>>>>>> doesn't come on
>>>>>>> (as it does usually when it misfires)
>>>>>>> it appears to have a loss of power, and be rough
>>>>>>> accelerating, unless
>>>>>>> when going, you ease off the accelerator, where it
>>>>>>> smooths down, and
>>>>>>> if you gently ease the accelerator down, it runs fairly
>>>>>>> smooth. goes
>>>>>>> back to lumpy if its pressed down harder. It also seems
>>>>>>> to be a lot
>>>>>>> smoother at higher engine revs.
>>>>>>> Happened only about 2 days ago, during a run down a
>>>>>>> country road,
>>>>>>> stopped at a railroad corssing, and it was suddenly like
>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>> hope someone can give me some hints
>>>>>>> thx.
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: d15b2 idling/running problems