cold-starting problem with 1995 Accord

meciboy <none DeleteThis @000.com> wrote in news:975544_
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> Have a 1995 Accord, recently i have difficulty getting it started when
> it sits over-night or its wet/damp outside. Once it’s running its
> great, always starts and gets 30 MPG with 190K on the engine. Have
> taken it to the mechanic twice. First time he replaced two spark plugs
> because they were mis-gapped. Second time he said it was the battery,
> which was bad and has been replaced. The engine turns over (sometimes
> 10 or more times) but will not fire, and now sometimes i turn the key
> and nothing happens. Have a newer starter but all ignition components
> are original




There's likely your problem. The wires are too old.

HT current is leaking off or shorting through the plug boot before it gets
to jump the plug gap.

Replace the wires with new OEM, not aftermarket. Bet the problem goes away.



> along with fuel injectors and fuel filter ( i heard this
> is a bitch to replace). For the first 30 seconds or so the engine
> sounds like its missing until it kind of warms up.



It's "missing" until warmup? Dead giveaway. It IS missing...because of
ancient wires.

You can use injector cleaner if you like, but it will neither hurt nor help
in this case.


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Thanks for the info. did have the starter replaced because it was free under warranty. That ignition problem hasn't happened again. I am going towards the fuel injector route now, i'm going to run some expensive injector cleaner with higher octane gas next fill-up and see if i notice any difference. Don't know if i want to go as far as cleaning them off the engine. Thanks for the advice.
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Did replace the wires but they were generic crap and didn't fit right-i took them back, i know i should always stay with OEM for Honda's. Going to go with injector cleaner first before i start replacing anything, the mechanic says Honda wires should be good for life? I'm not so sure. Thanks for the advice
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meciboy <none.RemoveThis@000.com> wrote in
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> Did replace the wires but they were generic and didn’t fit right-i
> took them back, i know i should always stay with OEM for Honda’s.
> Going to go with injector cleaner first before i start replacing
> anything, the mechanic says Honda wires should be good for life? I’m
> not so sure.



Absolutely not. The wires are good for maybe seven years. After that the
insulation begins to break down, allowing moisture to wick current away
from the core.

You NEED to replace the entire high-tension side. That means wires, plugs,
cap and rotor. Failure to do this will result in worsening starting
problems and eventual coil/igniter failure.




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Tegger wrote:
> meciboy <none DeleteThis @000.com> wrote in
> news:978284_f9feb211be4afd45ce7c86a913afc020@autoboardz.com:
>
>> Did replace the wires but they were generic and didn�t fit right-i
>> took them back, i know i should always stay with OEM for Honda�s.
>> Going to go with injector cleaner first before i start replacing
>> anything, the mechanic says Honda wires should be good for life? I�m
>> not so sure.
>
>
>
> Absolutely not. The wires are good for maybe seven years. After that the
> insulation begins to break down, allowing moisture to wick current away
> from the core.
>
> You NEED to replace the entire high-tension side. That means wires, plugs,
> cap and rotor. Failure to do this will result in worsening starting
> problems and eventual coil/igniter failure.
>

i haven't always enjoyed the greatest results with honda oem wires.
while they are definitely better than cheapo generic garbage from the
local parts store, they're not the best.

among alternatives:
1. ngk standard core are good quality leads, widely available and
competitively priced. easily as good as oem.

2. ngk coiled core are absolutely excellent - coiled core is the best
kind of lead to use. they definitely make the car run better at low
rpm's, starting is quicker and most importantly, they get rid of
electrical noise throughout the system.

3. even better than that are are magnecor leads. but they're not as
straight forward to use as the leads are thicker than oem. and the
connectors look a little funky, if you care about such things.
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Great advice, you're right, the mechanic did say he sprayed water on the engine and it ran bad until it dried off, this makes sense that the wires are worn. Will replace wires , cap, and rotor. Thanks
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