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labatyd

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:29 pm
Post subject: circa 90's Topaz/Tempo heaters
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Owners/anyone experienced with these cars have comments on the heaters? This
one seems to be cold in comparison. Thermostats have been changed. Presently
using 192 deg. yet still rather slow to warm the car and never really hot
air from the vents. I've had other cars that produce so much heat you can't
hold you hand over the defrost vent. Chatted briefly with another owner just
today and they report similar.

What gives?

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clare at snyder.on.ca

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:48 pm
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:29:38 -0600, "labatyd" wrote:

>Owners/anyone experienced with these cars have comments on the heaters? This
>one seems to be cold in comparison. Thermostats have been changed. Presently
>using 192 deg. yet still rather slow to warm the car and never really hot
>air from the vents. I've had other cars that produce so much heat you can't
>hold you hand over the defrost vent. Chatted briefly with another owner just
>today and they report similar.
>
>What gives?
>
Put a sheet of cardboard over the rad to block airflow to the engine
compartment, with a 6 or 8" diameter hole centered over the fan.
The block "blast cools" to the point the rad hardly gets any heat.
Same as an Aerostar. Without a winter front both 3.0 aerostars I owned
were "ice boxes". With a winter cover, they were toasty.

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Jim Warman1

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:59 am
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The fan on the Tempo is electric driven.... it will not turn on if the
engine temp is low...

Thge OP is going to be further ahead to fix the problem before there is any
chance of additional damage....

Anyone care to guess how many forgotten pieces of cardboard I've removed
from radiators in July????


<clare at snyder.on.ca> wrote in message

> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:29:38 -0600, "labatyd" wrote:
>
>>Owners/anyone experienced with these cars have comments on the heaters?
>>This
>>one seems to be cold in comparison. Thermostats have been changed.
>>Presently
>>using 192 deg. yet still rather slow to warm the car and never really hot
>>air from the vents. I've had other cars that produce so much heat you
>>can't
>>hold you hand over the defrost vent. Chatted briefly with another owner
>>just
>>today and they report similar.
>>
>>What gives?
>>
> Put a sheet of cardboard over the rad to block airflow to the engine
> compartment, with a 6 or 8" diameter hole centered over the fan.
> The block "blast cools" to the point the rad hardly gets any heat.
> Same as an Aerostar. Without a winter front both 3.0 aerostars I owned
> were "ice boxes". With a winter cover, they were toasty.
>
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> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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labatyd

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:15 am
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<clare at snyder.on.ca> wrote in message

> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:29:38 -0600, "labatyd" wrote:
>
>>Owners/anyone experienced with these cars have comments on the heaters?
>>This
>>one seems to be cold in comparison. Thermostats have been changed.
>>Presently
>>using 192 deg. yet still rather slow to warm the car and never really hot
>>air from the vents. I've had other cars that produce so much heat you
>>can't
>>hold you hand over the defrost vent. Chatted briefly with another owner
>>just
>>today and they report similar.
>>
>>What gives?
>>
> Put a sheet of cardboard over the rad to block airflow to the engine
> compartment, with a 6 or 8" diameter hole centered over the fan.
> The block "blast cools" to the point the rad hardly gets any heat.
> Same as an Aerostar. Without a winter front both 3.0 aerostars I owned
> were "ice boxes". With a winter cover, they were toasty.
>
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>

Already have done that. It annoys me to hell to have to do this and not
really a very effective way. Also not designed for easy access either. I
have to pull the grill to make it easier. Further you have to watch
carefully and on some days.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:18 am
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"Jim Warman" wrote in message

> The fan on the Tempo is electric driven.... it will not turn on if the
> engine temp is low...
>
> Thge OP is going to be further ahead to fix the problem before there is
> any chance of additional damage....
>

Fix the problem how though? I beginning to think it's a design problem.
That's why I asked if other owners are experiencing the same situation.

> Anyone care to guess how many forgotten pieces of cardboard I've removed
> from radiators in July????
>
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:54 pm
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On Jan 30, 9:48 pm, clare at snyder.on.ca wrote:
> Same as an Aerostar. Without a winter front both 3.0 aerostars I owned
> were "ice boxes". With a winter cover, they were toasty.


I recently retired a '93 extended Aerostar with a 3.0 that had such
good heat my kids would complain that it was too hot when the outside
temp was zero.

I suspect the heater core is partially plugged, in both the Tempo and
the Aerostar.
A lot of Tempo owners I've seen never do any maintenance to the cars
except to
change oil. If that.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:18 pm
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:18:13 -0600, "labatyd" wrote:

>
>"Jim Warman" wrote in message
>
>> The fan on the Tempo is electric driven.... it will not turn on if the
>> engine temp is low...
I realize that. But on days when it is warm enough to actually warm up
the engine, the hole centered on the fan avoids broken fan blades.
>>
>> Thge OP is going to be further ahead to fix the problem before there is
>> any chance of additional damage....
>>
>
>Fix the problem how though? I beginning to think it's a design problem.
>That's why I asked if other owners are experiencing the same situation.
>
>> Anyone care to guess how many forgotten pieces of cardboard I've removed
>> from radiators in July????
>>
>>
From my experience, it is. They overcool through the BLOCK on very
cold days. Sit and idle, out of the wind, and it will warm up. Start
to move and it's cold again. Feel the rad, and it is stone cold, open
the cap and there is no circulation. Cover the "grill" to keep airflow
through the engine compartment to a minimum, and everything heats up.
Medium cold days not a serious problem, particularly in town. Cold
days on the highway? Terrible.
>


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:43 pm
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:54:33 -0800 (PST), Kruse
wrote:

>
>References:
Both my 3.0 aerostars had good heater cores, and with a winter front
provided more than adequate heating even on the highway, and both had
the problem from the day I got them - 37000km and 54000km.

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