carb icing

Clean Intake Manifold Preheat Tubes. (Most important IMHO)
Proper working thermostat.
Hose from engine tin to Carb Air Cleaner.
Engine and carb in good tune.

Speedy Jim wrote:
> wrote:
>
>> Now that winter is here I had a problem with my bug running really
>> bad. I opened the lid and the intake and bottom of the carb looked
>> like a mug right out of the freezer. I read on some post about the
>> exhaust tubes are useless and that is for sure I can hold on the them
>> after it has been running for a while. The hose that goes from the
>> crank case was full of gunk. I cleaned it but I don't know how it
>> could be getting that much water in it. Could it be condensation, or
>> something else that I am over looking. I put hose clamps on it
>> thinking that might help, but I don't see how water entered in there
>> in the first place. Anybody have any ideas.
>
> Carb icing is mainly controlled by the heated
> air inlet to the carb air cleaner. Make sure
> that is working and actually pulling up hot air.
>
> The manifold preheat helps somewhat in keeping
> the bottom of the carb warmed, but the icing
> occurs in the throat of the carb.
>
> Jim
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Move to California..


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On Dec 31 2007, 8:20 am, vwluvrs wrote:
> Move to California..
>
>

Won't work. My bug iced up routinely in Arizona. In the summer, to
boot. So long as the humidity was high on a cool morning things ran
very, very poorly until the weather warmed. The thing that got me was,
if I stopped for a cuppa coffee somewhere, when I got back to the car
and fired it up it ran GREAT for about 5 minutes. The residual engine
heat would warm the carb and manifold, melt the ice, and everything
was happy...albeit temporarily.

If you don't have the manifold and carburetor heating systems working,
you car will run poorly much of the time. I had my bug tuned up, carb
rebuilt, and a bunch of other BS performed by a "VW shop" 10+ years
ago when I barely got into this hobby. My car still ran poorly. Having
spent too much money on idiots, I started reading and fixing the
systems that were not functioning.....THEN things started running
right.

Also as an FYI for everyone.. the late model aircleaners with the
vacuum temp switches that get dirty and don't work, etc. I was working
on a 97 golf 2.0 this past week...and I spied a suspicious looking
thing on the upper aircleaner half. Sure as hell, it's the exact same
switch VW used on the beetle. If you need one, check with the wreckers
as the part from the watercooled models will work. I'm not sure what
you can do if the air door itself is bad, but finding a good used
switch that hasn't been sitting in the muck for several years should
be a no-brainer.

Chris
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wrote in message


> If you don't have the manifold and carburetor heating systems working,
> you car will run poorly much of the time. [...]

Maybe my experience is just too strange. My manifold heating pipes are good,
but what makes the most diffference is a proper heated air return to the
stock air filter. And I live in Minnesota. You know, like COLD! I suspect
many, many Bug owners are missing those peculiar parts because they are
thown away in a half-assed rebuild.
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On Jan 3, 7:54 pm, <pico> wrote:
> wrote in message
>
>
>
> > If you don't have the manifold and carburetor heating systems working,
> > you car will run poorly much of the time. [...]
>
> Maybe my experience is just too strange. My manifold heating pipes are good,
> but what makes the most diffference is a proper heated air return to the
> stock air filter. And I live in Minnesota. You know, like COLD! I suspect
> many, many Bug owners are missing those peculiar parts because they are
> thown away in a half-assed rebuild.

I drove my '64 to work a few days last week. Friday it was 15 degrees
outside when I left for work before the sun came up, 35 mile trip. No
carb icing at all like I've had with previous bugs I've owned, but
this is the first one I've had that I left the air cleaner alone.
It's still stock, believe it or not. I didn't replace it with one of
those cool looking paper open-element filters like I did on every
other beetle I've had. I _was_ missing the heater modification inside
the car that I'd done on my last beetle, though. I dressed in layers,
wore a hoodie cap thing, gloves, and laid a sweatshirt down over my
legs to keep (kind of) warm on the way to work. My hood seal isn't
really good so I get a lot of cold air coming in through the dash, and
the heater box on the passenger side isn't hooked up well so I only
get cold air coming in on the passenger side through the floor vent.
I'll get around to getting that all sorted out... eventually. Hey, it
was warmer than riding the motorcycle would have been and it used
about half as much gas as I'd have used if I'd driven the police
car.
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On Jan 6, 9:29 am, Tricky wrote:
> Shag wrote:
> > On Jan 3, 7:54 pm, <pico> wrote:
> >> wrote in message
>
> >>
>
> >>> If you don't have the manifold and carburetor heating systems working,
> >>> you car will run poorly much of the time. [...]
> >> Maybe my experience is just too strange. My manifold heating pipes are good,
> >> but what makes the most diffference is a proper heated air return to the
> >> stock air filter. And I live in Minnesota. You know, like COLD! I suspect
> >> many, many Bug owners are missing those peculiar parts because they are
> >> thown away in a half-assed rebuild.
>
> > I drove my '64 to work a few days last week. Friday it was 15 degrees
> > outside when I left for work before the sun came up, 35 mile trip. No
> > carb icing at all like I've had with previous bugs I've owned, but
> > this is the first one I've had that I left the air cleaner alone.
> > It's still stock, believe it or not. I didn't replace it with one of
> > those cool looking paper open-element filters like I did on every
> > other beetle I've had. I _was_ missing the heater modification inside
> > the car that I'd done on my last beetle, though. I dressed in layers,
> > wore a hoodie cap thing, gloves, and laid a sweatshirt down over my
> > legs to keep (kind of) warm on the way to work. My hood seal isn't
> > really good so I get a lot of cold air coming in through the dash, and
> > the heater box on the passenger side isn't hooked up well so I only
> > get cold air coming in on the passenger side through the floor vent.
> > I'll get around to getting that all sorted out... eventually. Hey, it
> > was warmer than riding the motorcycle would have been and it used
> > about half as much gas as I'd have used if I'd driven the police
> > car.
>
> Police Car ?

http://www.employees.org/~travist/police/police1.jpg
http://www.employees.org/~travist/police/use_od.jpg
Wahooo!!!!
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Shag wrote:
> On Jan 3, 7:54 pm, <pico> wrote:
>> wrote in message
>>
>>
>>
>>> If you don't have the manifold and carburetor heating systems working,
>>> you car will run poorly much of the time. [...]
>> Maybe my experience is just too strange. My manifold heating pipes are good,
>> but what makes the most diffference is a proper heated air return to the
>> stock air filter. And I live in Minnesota. You know, like COLD! I suspect
>> many, many Bug owners are missing those peculiar parts because they are
>> thown away in a half-assed rebuild.
>
> I drove my '64 to work a few days last week. Friday it was 15 degrees
> outside when I left for work before the sun came up, 35 mile trip. No
> carb icing at all like I've had with previous bugs I've owned, but
> this is the first one I've had that I left the air cleaner alone.
> It's still stock, believe it or not. I didn't replace it with one of
> those cool looking paper open-element filters like I did on every
> other beetle I've had. I _was_ missing the heater modification inside
> the car that I'd done on my last beetle, though. I dressed in layers,
> wore a hoodie cap thing, gloves, and laid a sweatshirt down over my
> legs to keep (kind of) warm on the way to work. My hood seal isn't
> really good so I get a lot of cold air coming in through the dash, and
> the heater box on the passenger side isn't hooked up well so I only
> get cold air coming in on the passenger side through the floor vent.
> I'll get around to getting that all sorted out... eventually. Hey, it
> was warmer than riding the motorcycle would have been and it used
> about half as much gas as I'd have used if I'd driven the police
> car.
>
>


Police Car ?
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Shag wrote:
> On Jan 6, 9:29 am, Tricky wrote:
>> Shag wrote:
>>> On Jan 3, 7:54 pm, <pico> wrote:
>>>> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>>> If you don't have the manifold and carburetor heating systems working,
>>>>> you car will run poorly much of the time. [...]
>>>> Maybe my experience is just too strange. My manifold heating pipes are good,
>>>> but what makes the most diffference is a proper heated air return to the
>>>> stock air filter. And I live in Minnesota. You know, like COLD! I suspect
>>>> many, many Bug owners are missing those peculiar parts because they are
>>>> thown away in a half-assed rebuild.
>>> I drove my '64 to work a few days last week. Friday it was 15 degrees
>>> outside when I left for work before the sun came up, 35 mile trip. No
>>> carb icing at all like I've had with previous bugs I've owned, but
>>> this is the first one I've had that I left the air cleaner alone.
>>> It's still stock, believe it or not. I didn't replace it with one of
>>> those cool looking paper open-element filters like I did on every
>>> other beetle I've had. I _was_ missing the heater modification inside
>>> the car that I'd done on my last beetle, though. I dressed in layers,
>>> wore a hoodie cap thing, gloves, and laid a sweatshirt down over my
>>> legs to keep (kind of) warm on the way to work. My hood seal isn't
>>> really good so I get a lot of cold air coming in through the dash, and
>>> the heater box on the passenger side isn't hooked up well so I only
>>> get cold air coming in on the passenger side through the floor vent.
>>> I'll get around to getting that all sorted out... eventually. Hey, it
>>> was warmer than riding the motorcycle would have been and it used
>>> about half as much gas as I'd have used if I'd driven the police
>>> car.
>> Police Car ?
>
> http://www.employees.org/~travist/police/police1.jpg
> http://www.employees.org/~travist/police/use_od.jpg
> Wahooo!!!!
>


mine was nyd black n white - sold ladt year...

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o238/RichAAC-UK/DSCF0017-5.jpg

great fun
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Just don't start talking about going on a "Mission for God" to Chicago and
singing "Rawhide" - otherwise Carrie Fisher might come after you!
KWW

"Tricky" wrote in message

> Shag wrote:
>> On Jan 6, 9:29 am, Tricky wrote:
>>> Shag wrote:
>>>> On Jan 3, 7:54 pm, <pico> wrote:
>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't have the manifold and carburetor heating systems
>>>>>> working,
>>>>>> you car will run poorly much of the time. [...]
>>>>> Maybe my experience is just too strange. My manifold heating pipes are
>>>>> good,
>>>>> but what makes the most diffference is a proper heated air return to
>>>>> the
>>>>> stock air filter. And I live in Minnesota. You know, like COLD! I
>>>>> suspect
>>>>> many, many Bug owners are missing those peculiar parts because they
>>>>> are
>>>>> thown away in a half-assed rebuild.
>>>> I drove my '64 to work a few days last week. Friday it was 15 degrees
>>>> outside when I left for work before the sun came up, 35 mile trip. No
>>>> carb icing at all like I've had with previous bugs I've owned, but
>>>> this is the first one I've had that I left the air cleaner alone.
>>>> It's still stock, believe it or not. I didn't replace it with one of
>>>> those cool looking paper open-element filters like I did on every
>>>> other beetle I've had. I _was_ missing the heater modification inside
>>>> the car that I'd done on my last beetle, though. I dressed in layers,
>>>> wore a hoodie cap thing, gloves, and laid a sweatshirt down over my
>>>> legs to keep (kind of) warm on the way to work. My hood seal isn't
>>>> really good so I get a lot of cold air coming in through the dash, and
>>>> the heater box on the passenger side isn't hooked up well so I only
>>>> get cold air coming in on the passenger side through the floor vent.
>>>> I'll get around to getting that all sorted out... eventually. Hey, it
>>>> was warmer than riding the motorcycle would have been and it used
>>>> about half as much gas as I'd have used if I'd driven the police
>>>> car.
>>> Police Car ?
>>
>> http://www.employees.org/~travist/police/police1.jpg
>> http://www.employees.org/~travist/police/use_od.jpg
>> Wahooo!!!!
>>
>
>
> mine was nyd black n white - sold ladt year...
>
> http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o238/RichAAC-UK/DSCF0017-5.jpg
>
> great fun
>
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