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Dutch

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:12 pm
Post subject: Had a brake problem today...
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Drove my '50 2R5 the three miles into town today; went to the grocery
store. Unfortunately, I had a little problem.

When trying to back out of the parking stall, I only moved about 5 feet
before I killed it. I realized quickly that the brakes were locked up.
The parking brake was disengaged, but offered no resistance when
engaging it. The brake pedal virtually no travel, and was extremely
stiff. I took a peek at the master cylinder; everything looked normal.
Lacking a better idea, I opened the little petcock on the rear passenger
side, and about a 1-2 teaspoons of fluid oozed out. This apparently
solved the problem; the brakes seemed to function normally as I drove
around the parking lot a few times.

Obviously, any problem when the brake system is cause for concern. I've
looked through the shop manual, the NG, and the SDC forum, but I've
found no leads.

Ideas?

-Dutch

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Jeff Rice

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:01 pm
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Sounds like you have your master cylinder rod adjusted too tight. Back it
off a bit and try it again.
Jeff

"Dutch" wrote...
> Drove my '50 2R5 the three miles into town today; went to the grocery
> store. Unfortunately, I had a little problem.
>
> When trying to back out of the parking stall, I only moved about 5 feet
> before I killed it. I realized quickly that the brakes were locked up. The
> parking brake was disengaged, but offered no resistance when engaging it.
> The brake pedal virtually no travel, and was extremely stiff. I took a
> peek at the master cylinder; everything looked normal. Lacking a better
> idea, I opened the little petcock on the rear passenger side, and about a
> 1-2 teaspoons of fluid oozed out. This apparently solved the problem; the
> brakes seemed to function normally as I drove around the parking lot a few
> times.
>
> Obviously, any problem when the brake system is cause for concern. I've
> looked through the shop manual, the NG, and the SDC forum, but I've found
> no leads.
>
> Ideas?
>
> -Dutch



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Dutch

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:01 pm
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Thanks for the tip; I'll give it a shot.

Man, I love this NG...

-Dutch



Jeff Rice wrote:
> Sounds like you have your master cylinder rod adjusted too tight. Back it
> off a bit and try it again.
> Jeff
>
> "Dutch" wrote...
>> Drove my '50 2R5 the three miles into town today; went to the grocery
>> store. Unfortunately, I had a little problem.
>>
>> When trying to back out of the parking stall, I only moved about 5 feet
>> before I killed it. I realized quickly that the brakes were locked up. The
>> parking brake was disengaged, but offered no resistance when engaging it.
>> The brake pedal virtually no travel, and was extremely stiff. I took a
>> peek at the master cylinder; everything looked normal. Lacking a better
>> idea, I opened the little petcock on the rear passenger side, and about a
>> 1-2 teaspoons of fluid oozed out. This apparently solved the problem; the
>> brakes seemed to function normally as I drove around the parking lot a few
>> times.
>>
>> Obviously, any problem when the brake system is cause for concern. I've
>> looked through the shop manual, the NG, and the SDC forum, but I've found
>> no leads.
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
>> -Dutch
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Bill Glass

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:35 pm
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Your Parking brake also might be stuck on, and cause the drums to overheat,
expanding the fluid. By bleeding, or dumping fluid everything might feel
right, but since yout E brake handle offered no effort to pull it, that
indicates that the cable might hav snapped when the E brake locked up.

Check it out......thats how the Hawk went on fire........... no effort to
pull handle, drove it for quite a while, and whamo, stiff brake pedal and
then fire.

BG

>
> When trying to back out of the parking stall, I only moved about 5 feet
> before I killed it. I realized quickly that the brakes were locked up. The
> parking brake was disengaged, but offered no resistance when engaging it.
> The brake pedal virtually no travel, and was extremely stiff. I took a
> peek at the master cylinder; everything looked normal. Lacking a better
> idea, I opened the little petcock on the rear passenger side, and about a
> 1-2 teaspoons of fluid oozed out. This apparently solved the problem; the
> brakes seemed to function normally as I drove around the parking lot a few
> times.
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Dutch

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:07 pm
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Actually, that's one of the first things I checked; I was able to
operate the parking brakes at the wheels themselves, and the cable was
perfectly sound.

It has yet to happen again; I suspect Jeff was right about the master
cylinder rod. But thanks for the suggestion. Smile

Sucks about the fire though. Damn. Sad

-Dutch



Bill Glass wrote:
> Your Parking brake also might be stuck on, and cause the drums to overheat,
> expanding the fluid. By bleeding, or dumping fluid everything might feel
> right, but since yout E brake handle offered no effort to pull it, that
> indicates that the cable might hav snapped when the E brake locked up.
>
> Check it out......thats how the Hawk went on fire........... no effort to
> pull handle, drove it for quite a while, and whamo, stiff brake pedal and
> then fire.
>
> BG
>
>> When trying to back out of the parking stall, I only moved about 5 feet
>> before I killed it. I realized quickly that the brakes were locked up. The
>> parking brake was disengaged, but offered no resistance when engaging it.
>> The brake pedal virtually no travel, and was extremely stiff. I took a
>> peek at the master cylinder; everything looked normal. Lacking a better
>> idea, I opened the little petcock on the rear passenger side, and about a
>> 1-2 teaspoons of fluid oozed out. This apparently solved the problem; the
>> brakes seemed to function normally as I drove around the parking lot a few
>> times.
>
>
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midlant

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:08 pm
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One remote possibility might be a bad hose with a peice making it to
act like a check valve. It's thought of as more of a front wheel
problem, but same might apply back there.

Karl
Dutch wrote:
> Actually, that's one of the first things I checked; I was able to
> operate the parking brakes at the wheels themselves, and the cable was
> perfectly sound.
>
> It has yet to happen again; I suspect Jeff was right about the master
> cylinder rod. But thanks for the suggestion. Smile
>
> Sucks about the fire though. Damn. Sad
>
> -Dutch
>
>
>
> Bill Glass wrote:
> > Your Parking brake also might be stuck on, and cause the drums to overheat,
> > expanding the fluid. By bleeding, or dumping fluid everything might feel
> > right, but since yout E brake handle offered no effort to pull it, that
> > indicates that the cable might hav snapped when the E brake locked up.
> >
> > Check it out......thats how the Hawk went on fire........... no effort to
> > pull handle, drove it for quite a while, and whamo, stiff brake pedal and
> > then fire.
> >
> > BG
> >
> >> When trying to back out of the parking stall, I only moved about 5 feet
> >> before I killed it. I realized quickly that the brakes were locked up. The
> >> parking brake was disengaged, but offered no resistance when engaging it.
> >> The brake pedal virtually no travel, and was extremely stiff. I took a
> >> peek at the master cylinder; everything looked normal. Lacking a better
> >> idea, I opened the little petcock on the rear passenger side, and about a
> >> 1-2 teaspoons of fluid oozed out. This apparently solved the problem; the
> >> brakes seemed to function normally as I drove around the parking lot a few
> >> times.
> >
> >
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dougwhitesr

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:44 am
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midlant.DeleteThis@earthlink.net wrote:
> One remote possibility might be a bad hose with a peice making it to
> act like a check valve. It's thought of as more of a front wheel
> problem, but same might apply back there.
>
> Karl
> Dutch wrote:
> > Actually, that's one of the first things I checked; I was able to
> > operate the parking brakes at the wheels themselves, and the cable was
> > perfectly sound.
> >
> > It has yet to happen again; I suspect Jeff was right about the master
> > cylinder rod. But thanks for the suggestion. Smile
> >
> > Sucks about the fire though. Damn. Sad
> >
> > -Dutch
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Glass wrote:
> > > Your Parking brake also might be stuck on, and cause the drums to overheat,
> > > expanding the fluid. By bleeding, or dumping fluid everything might feel
> > > right, but since yout E brake handle offered no effort to pull it, that
> > > indicates that the cable might hav snapped when the E brake locked up.
> > >
> > > Check it out......thats how the Hawk went on fire........... no effort to
> > > pull handle, drove it for quite a while, and whamo, stiff brake pedal and
> > > then fire.
> > >
> > > BG
> > >
> > >> When trying to back out of the parking stall, I only moved about 5 feet
> > >> before I killed it. I realized quickly that the brakes were locked up. The
> > >> parking brake was disengaged, but offered no resistance when engaging it.
> > >> The brake pedal virtually no travel, and was extremely stiff. I took a
> > >> peek at the master cylinder; everything looked normal. Lacking a better
> > >> idea, I opened the little petcock on the rear passenger side, and about a
> > >> 1-2 teaspoons of fluid oozed out. This apparently solved the problem; the
> > >> brakes seemed to function normally as I drove around the parking lot a few
> > >> times.
> > >
> > > I have had a similar problem once. I you look inside the master cylender, directly under the filler cap, you can see a very tiney hole. It is about .010/.015 " in diameter.If that hole gets clogged it will produce the symptoms you describe. I have seen these holes that look like someone started to drill a hole by using a center drill and then did not finish, but there is a very small hole in there. I have used a small piece of wire to clean mine out. I hope this helps, Doug
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