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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:25 pm
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So I'm driving along, minding my own business, checking for a tire
vibration. I pull away from a stoplight under full throttle (4cyl) to get
up enough speed to make it wobble, 1st gear, 2nd gear, thir-- BAM!!! A
gigantic blue cloud poured out from under the hood over the windshield,
and it sounded like someone turned on a blender full of wood screws. Then
everything got quiet, the pedal stiffened, and I coasted to a gentle stop
while small pieces of metal bounced off the under carriage.
I sat there for a second, turned on the hazards, pulled out my phone and
called one of the guys at the shop.
"Look, I'm about 100 yards down the road, get five guys and come help me
push. I don't know. Something bad."
While I was waiting I popped the hood and put on my diagnostic hat.
Calling on years of experience and technical study, I was able to
determine that the grapefruit-sized hole above the oil filter with the top
half of a connecting rod and wrist pin (no piston, just the wrist pin)
hanging out was most likely to blame. I also noticed that a particularly
eager piece of cast-iron tried to make it out through the hood, but not
without leaving a small dent.
The help arrived soon, and I tried not to think about the negative
publicity I was giving our dealership by having a crew of it's own push a
car down the town's main street after having been detonated by a
technician. By the time we got back word had spread and a glorious crowd
had gathered to witness my handywork. Handshakes, pats on the back, I even
got lunch bought for me (made that last one up).
I've never had this happen to me before, I've only ever witnessed the
aftermath. The oddest thing is the lack of warning. After we got it back I
checked the oil level (full) and pulled the valve cover, but found no
evidence of sludge. The thing was purring beforehand - no knocking or any
other indication that such a violent end was right around the corner for
this poor little 5S-FE. I never did find the wheel vibration, either.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:10 am
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Luckily (I guess) this car happened to be in the used car departments
inventory. A customer had recently test driven it, and asked that someone
check it for a vibration before purchasing. Whether or not it will be
repaired is above my pay grade. I wouldn't mind taking the thing apart as
I am awful curious to see what the hell happened.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 6:31 pm
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<<<You know, the thing about tire wobbles is that they wobble at a
particular
speed, not at ARRIVING at a particular speed in the shortest possible
time

span. Sorry for your loss, but it could have been predicted.>>>

And the thing about Northern Virginia, particularly Fairfax, is that
getting past 40mph period without traveling 20 miles away is near
imnpossible, so sometimes full throttle accelerations are called for.
But yeah, you are right that I should have banked on a shattering
piston when the engine is loaded at 3000rpm. Very common occurence on 99
Camrys.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:00 pm
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Wow, so then I suppose you are familiar with the dealer I work for. That
bridge is nice, but Fairfax County's finest are parked there damn near
every day.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:05 am
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There are 40 year old 2 bedroom brick homes on 1/2 acre lots in FFX city
selling in the $750 range. I ended up having to buy about 20 miles west a
few years ago - couldn't afford to live where I worked. Seems to be the
case with a lot of people in this area these days.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 6:51 pm
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Scott in Florida wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 18:18:05 GMT, Gord Beaman
>wrote:
>
>>"Jeff Strickland" wrote:
>>
>>>You didn't describe 3000 rpm, you described "full throttle, 1st, 2nd, 3rd,
>>>bam." Full throttle through the gears, to me, means at least one -- and
>>>probably more -- nudges of the tach against red line. Sorry if I can't read.
>>>My point was that if the tires wobble, they wobble at 50 < or whatever>, not
>>>at 3000 rpm <or whatever> Testing for wobble doesn't require "full throttle,
>>>1st, 2nd, 3rd ...", it requires open road.
>>>
>>>
>>Of course, gee, putting a rod through the block to test a 'tire
>>wobble' doesn't sound too brilliant to me...
>
>What in heck is wrong with accelerating a car at full throttle?

Ask qslim...he probably knows...

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 7:22 pm
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Yeah. Apparently full throttle accelerations in Toyotas lead to shattered
pistons. My bad.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:19 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:48 pm
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"Jeff Strickland" wrote in message

> Not to point fingers or anything, but full throttle has been a bad idea
> for a very long time. My dad was a car dealer during the muscle car era of
> the late '60s and early '70s, and a General Manager of a Ford dealership
> before that, and full throttle accelleration was taught to me as an
> inherently bad plan from my earliest days.
>
> Yes, full throttle as a joy ride was okay, and as a diagnostic tool for
> engine noise could be alright. But, full throttle as a general rule of
> thumb was frowned upon by dear old dad. I seldom engage Warp Speed for any
> reason because I really like it when my car works the next day, not to
> mention later in the same day.
>
>
There is no harm done to an engine from full throttle acceleration.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:10 am
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On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 20:19:22 -0400, Gary L. Burnore
wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:56:38 -0700, "Jeff Strickland"
> wrote:
>
>>Not to point fingers or anything, but full throttle has been a bad idea for
>>a very long time. My dad was a car dealer during the muscle car era of the
>>late '60s and early '70s, and a General Manager of a Ford dealership before
>>that, and full throttle accelleration was taught to me as an inherently bad
>>plan from my earliest days.
>>
>>Yes, full throttle as a joy ride was okay, and as a diagnostic tool for
>>engine noise could be alright. But, full throttle as a general rule of thumb
>>was frowned upon by dear old dad. I seldom engage Warp Speed for any reason
>>because I really like it when my car works the next day, not to mention
>>later in the same day.
>
>I've got nearly 300k on my 89 Cressida. It ___ LIKES ____ full
>throttle.

I think, to say, that Toys can't be driven at full throttle is bunk...

Yes, if you have a weak component, it may break, but I just can't buy
the fact that a Toy will blow up if you accelerate at full throttle...
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:19 am
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qslim wrote:
> So I'm driving along, minding my own business, checking for a tire
> vibration. I pull away from a stoplight under full throttle (4cyl) to get
> up enough speed to make it wobble, 1st gear, 2nd gear, thir-- BAM!!! A
> gigantic blue cloud poured out from under the hood
===========================================
Possibly a wrist pin clip released?
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:22 am
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"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
>
> "Jeff Strickland" wrote in message
>> Not to point fingers or anything, but full throttle has been a bad idea for a very long time. My dad was a car dealer during the
>> muscle car era of the late '60s and early '70s, and a General Manager of a Ford dealership before that, and full throttle
>> accelleration was taught to me as an inherently bad plan from my earliest days.
>>
>> Yes, full throttle as a joy ride was okay, and as a diagnostic tool for engine noise could be alright. But, full throttle as a
>> general rule of thumb was frowned upon by dear old dad. I seldom engage Warp Speed for any reason because I really like it when
>> my car works the next day, not to mention later in the same day.
>>
>>
> There is no harm done to an engine from full throttle acceleration.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)




The manufacture warranty covers "Warp Speed for any reason" all day, every day!
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:41 pm
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wrote:

>qslim wrote:
>> So I'm driving along, minding my own business, checking for a tire
>> vibration. I pull away from a stoplight under full throttle (4cyl) to get
>> up enough speed to make it wobble, 1st gear, 2nd gear, thir-- BAM!!! A
>> gigantic blue cloud poured out from under the hood
>===========================================
>Possibly a wrist pin clip released?

I can't see that doing much damage(?)
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