subaru or saab?

eliza lace wrote:
> What should i choise?
>
> eliza.lace.TakeThisOut@booomail.com

Depends what you are after. We've owned two Saabs (two 900s) and two
Subarus (GL and Impreza - still own the impreza).

I found the Subarus a lot more reliable. They are cheaper and easier to
maintain but a little boring to drive, imo.
Subarus are much better in snow, though.

Remco
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eliza lace <eliza.lace RemoveThis @booomail.com> wrote in news:1bed0$42ce961d$d99c5301
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> What should i choise?
>
> eliza.lace RemoveThis @booomail.com

Saab 9-2X? it's a Subaru with some Saab touches. Apparently they aren't
selling too well so you should be able to get a good price and they have a
better warranty than the Subaru. More info here:

http://www.saabusa.com/saabjsp/92x/index.jsp
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"eliza lace" <eliza.lace RemoveThis @booomail.com> wrote in message
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>
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Good friends of mine just picked up the Saab 9-2x, aka the "Saabaru" and are
quite pleased with it. They just got a much better deal from the Saab
dealer, so even though they slightly preferred the Subaru version, the
pricing won them over.

-Matt
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"eliza lace" <eliza.lace DeleteThis @booomail.com> wrote in message
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>
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Whichever comes with a spell checker
Frank
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In article <1bed0$42ce961d$d99c5301$6766@allthenewsgroups.com>,
eliza lace <eliza.lace DeleteThis @booomail.com> wrote:

> What should i choise?

Both GM owned.
Saab is becoming more GM or Saburu like, depending on the model.
The new Saab SUV is just a dressed up GM model
at a much higher (2x) price.
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GM has only 20% of Subaru. Saab appears to be 100% and everything GM
buys eventually goes from a reliable vehicle to an unreliable vehicle
within 3-4 years. I like Saab and hope GM does not use their reverse
Midas touch on it. With all the rebates and such I think the Saab is
the best value by far. The problem is GM will not have trained
mechanics to service it anymore than oil changes and Subaru mechanics
will look at you as a traitor. MHO. ed
"Moon Guy" <someone DeleteThis @hell.low> wrote in message
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> In article <1bed0$42ce961d$d99c5301$6766@allthenewsgroups.com>,
> eliza lace <eliza.lace DeleteThis @booomail.com> wrote:
>
>> What should i choise?
>
> Both GM owned.
> Saab is becoming more GM or Saburu like, depending on the model.
> The new Saab SUV is just a dressed up GM model
> at a much higher (2x) price.
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:05:25 GMT, "Edward Hayes" <erhayes.DeleteThis@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>GM has only 20% of Subaru. Saab appears to be 100% and everything GM
>buys eventually goes from a reliable vehicle to an unreliable vehicle
>within 3-4 years. I like Saab and hope GM does not use their reverse
>Midas touch on it. With all the rebates and such I think the Saab is
>the best value by far. The problem is GM will not have trained
>mechanics to service it anymore than oil changes and Subaru mechanics
>will look at you as a traitor. MHO. ed

It's 20% now? -Danny
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Edward Hayes wrote:
> GM has only 20% of Subaru. Saab appears to be 100% and everything GM
> buys eventually goes from a reliable vehicle to an unreliable vehicle
> within 3-4 years. I like Saab and hope GM does not use their reverse
> Midas touch on it. With all the rebates and such I think the Saab is
> the best value by far. The problem is GM will not have trained
> mechanics to service it anymore than oil changes and Subaru mechanics
> will look at you as a traitor. MHO. ed

I owned three Saabs, from 1991 through 2003. They were models from 1987,
1986, and 1995.

Saab has already been reverse-Midased, as far as I'm concerned. GM fired
all its designers and engineers, after promising not to do that. I'm
done with Saabs. I'm pissed.

There was an interesting public radio story a few weeks ago, comparing
Saab and Subaru. They said that Saab buyers were a niche, but not big
enough to keep a brand alive. By contrast, it said, Subaru is big
enough, as long as it keeps itself uniquely defined. Time will tell.

What attributes (or combination thereof) are unique to Subaru? Well, to
start, there's the full time all wheel drive throughout the model line.
There's the boxer engine. What else?

Tom
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On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:28:18 -0400, Tom Reingold
<tlr.usenet.0525.TakeThisOut@spambob.net> wrote:

>There was an interesting public radio story a few weeks ago, comparing
>Saab and Subaru. They said that Saab buyers were a niche, but not big
>enough to keep a brand alive. By contrast, it said, Subaru is big
>enough, as long as it keeps itself uniquely defined. Time will tell.
>
>What attributes (or combination thereof) are unique to Subaru? Well, to
>start, there's the full time all wheel drive throughout the model line.
>There's the boxer engine. What else?

Another unique feature to Subaru is the consistent, constant
availability of the wagon models (Toyota and Honda stopped theirs for
a while, for example).
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KLS wrote:

> Another unique feature to Subaru is the consistent, constant
> availability of the wagon models (Toyota and Honda stopped theirs for
> a while, for example).


Yeah, the wagons seem to be a lot more popular than the sedans. That's
another reason I gave up on Saab. Because they gave up on the hatchback.
I can't imagine owning a car that is neither a hatchback nor a wagon.

Tom
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Parking light switch on top of steering column!

;^)

Carl


Tom Reingold wrote:

> Edward Hayes wrote:
>
>> GM has only 20% of Subaru. Saab appears to be 100% and everything GM
>> buys eventually goes from a reliable vehicle to an unreliable vehicle
>> within 3-4 years. I like Saab and hope GM does not use their reverse
>> Midas touch on it. With all the rebates and such I think the Saab is
>> the best value by far. The problem is GM will not have trained
>> mechanics to service it anymore than oil changes and Subaru mechanics
>> will look at you as a traitor. MHO. ed
>
>
> I owned three Saabs, from 1991 through 2003. They were models from 1987,
> 1986, and 1995.
>
> Saab has already been reverse-Midased, as far as I'm concerned. GM fired
> all its designers and engineers, after promising not to do that. I'm
> done with Saabs. I'm pissed.
>
> There was an interesting public radio story a few weeks ago, comparing
> Saab and Subaru. They said that Saab buyers were a niche, but not big
> enough to keep a brand alive. By contrast, it said, Subaru is big
> enough, as long as it keeps itself uniquely defined. Time will tell.
>
> What attributes (or combination thereof) are unique to Subaru? Well, to
> start, there's the full time all wheel drive throughout the model line.
> There's the boxer engine. What else?
>
> Tom

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In article <3kcoljFtefeqU1 DeleteThis @individual.net>,
Tom Reingold <tlr.usenet.0525 DeleteThis @spambob.net> wrote:

> What attributes (or combination thereof) are unique to Subaru? Well, to
> start, there's the full time all wheel drive throughout the model line.
> There's the boxer engine. What else?

Full sized spare tire included.

Unfortunmately an increasing number of vehicles no longer have a spare
well to take a full sized spare, much less install one.
This inadequate spare wheel well doesn't meet my requiremets, so many
vehicles drop off my short list before I even sit in them. >
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Moon Guy wrote:

>
> Full sized spare tire included.

That wasn't exactly true on my '01 OBW.

The spare was full _height_, but much narrower than the other tires. It
was also a limited use, low speed tire. I really doubt that a tire and
wheel matching the other four would have fit in the well with the
organizer tray in place.

The car was a 5 speed, so with a no way to disable AWD, a mini-donut
would have been unacceptable.
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