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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:46 am
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Hello,
Recently went in for an oil change at 35K.
The battery load test failed on my car even
though I appear to have no starting problems.

My questions:
Besides the honda battery (delphi), are there
other good replacement batteries?

I'm looking at:
Everready (by AC delco) $65
Energizer $60
Bosch $79
Diehard $79 (Sears)

Is it normal for the battery to fail load test
at only 36K?


THANK YOU!

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John Horner

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:55 pm
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ap wrote:
> Hello,
> Recently went in for an oil change at 35K.
> The battery load test failed on my car even
> though I appear to have no starting problems.
>
> My questions:
> Besides the honda battery (delphi), are there
> other good replacement batteries?
>

I would get it retested somewhere else. This sounds like it could be a
profit-making "service" for the dealer.

> I'm looking at:
> Everready (by AC delco) $65
> Energizer $60
> Bosch $79
> Diehard $79 (Sears)
>
> Is it normal for the battery to fail load test
> at only 36K?

Generally not, though it depends a great deal on the history of the
vehicle. Cold winters, hot summers and lots of short trips all reduce
battery life. The biggest battery killer is running 'em down and then
jump starting. Have you ever left the lights on and killed the battery,
then needed a jump start? If so, then it is highly likely that your
battery is ready for replacement.

Consumer Reports did a battery comparison test recently. You might want
to check it out if you do need a replacement.

John

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:48 am
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Replace the battery, it could go at any time is it worth it, to need the car
to go somewhere and the battery is dead?

Tom


"ap" <corsica.TakeThisOut@ragingbull.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
> Recently went in for an oil change at 35K.
> The battery load test failed on my car even
> though I appear to have no starting problems.
>
> My questions:
> Besides the honda battery (delphi), are there
> other good replacement batteries?
>
> I'm looking at:
> Everready (by AC delco) $65
> Energizer $60
> Bosch $79
> Diehard $79 (Sears)
>
> Is it normal for the battery to fail load test
> at only 36K?
>
>
> THANK YOU!
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:53 pm
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"flobert" <nomail DeleteThis @here.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 05:49:38 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
> <michaeltnull DeleteThis @cybertrails.com> wrote:
>
>>"ap" <corsica DeleteThis @ragingbull.com> wrote in message
>>news:1122302819.747066.122750@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>>> Is it normal for the battery to fail load test
>>> at only 36K?
>
> Batteries are not engine componants, they work by time, and not miles.
> Was the battery topped up?
>
>>>
>>
>>That really depends on the climate. When I lived in Phoenix I never had a
>>battery survive three summers - they would almost always give up early in
>>the third summer (like around May, since summer there is pretty much
>>May-September, and it's hit 100 degrees in March.) Now I live in Flagstaff
>>and the only battery I've had to replace in 4 years was in a car we had
>>recently bought.
>
> Did you let the car run for a little before turning the AC on, and
> similarly turn the AC off a little bit before you turned the engine
> off in Az? if not, thats what would have killed them.
>
My car didn't have A/C but had short battery life the same as my wife's. Two
years, then replace (and that was with batteries advertised as being
designed for hot climates). On hot afternoons the temp guage would already
be off the bottom peg before I ever started the engine. The day it was 122,
when I started my car the battery simply exploded.

I also buy only full-service batteries. Sealed batteries in that heat are a
bad idea, and I just carry on the tradition here.

Mike
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:55 pm
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flobert wrote:

> Yes and no. The battery is designed to be chargable. using, and
> draining and charging the battery doesn't 'damage it' per se. If it is
> kept below 10V for an extended period of time (say 12 hours or more)
> then it is irreperably damaged. using a trickle charger is the best
> way to charge a low battery.

Au contrar, cycling a battery, especially cycling it into a deep
discharge mode, absolutely is a major factor in it's expected life time.
Automotive lead-acid batteries do not recover well from deep
discharge events. Take almost any new conventional battery and run it
through twenty cycles of 90% discharge followed by full recharge. Most
will be dead by the end of such a torture test.

John
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:10 pm
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 22:48:01 GMT, John Horner <jthorner.DeleteThis@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>flobert wrote:
>
>> Yes and no. The battery is designed to be chargable. using, and
>> draining and charging the battery doesn't 'damage it' per se. If it is
>> kept below 10V for an extended period of time (say 12 hours or more)
>> then it is irreperably damaged. using a trickle charger is the best
>> way to charge a low battery.
>
>Au contrar, cycling a battery, especially cycling it into a deep
>discharge mode, absolutely is a major factor in it's expected life time.
> Automotive lead-acid batteries do not recover well from deep
>discharge events. Take almost any new conventional battery and run it
>through twenty cycles of 90% discharge followed by full recharge. Most
>will be dead by the end of such a torture test.

a 90% discharge takes its voltage to somewhere in the 5-6V range,
obviously that damages plates. 10V is about 50%, and is aboutt he
minimum limit for successfull resotation.

>
>John
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