Pulling out the spare tire: stupid, stupid... STUPID!

I would say that bimmers are not, "conventional" cars, I have never had
a problem. but ususally you can avoid this type of problem by
familiarizing yourself with how these things work before you actually
need to use them. Im sure there is a good reason for the design, maybe
the fact that with "spirited" BMW driving, the conventional retainer
didnt hold up...sounds like a problem of user error to me....
 >> Stay informed about: Pulling out the spare tire: stupid, stupid... STUPID! 

User error; yes to an extent. But the design is awfully prone to this kind
of incident.


"Corey Shuman" <cshuman.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I would say that bimmers are not, "conventional" cars, I have never had
> a problem. but ususally you can avoid this type of problem by
> familiarizing yourself with how these things work before you actually
> need to use them. Im sure there is a good reason for the design, maybe
> the fact that with "spirited" BMW driving, the conventional retainer
> didnt hold up...sounds like a problem of user error to me....
>
 >> Stay informed about: Pulling out the spare tire: stupid, stupid... STUPID! 

I never had that trouble.

The wingnut is loosened, the plate is lifted out, and the tire then comes
out. If the tire is placed with the shiny side up, then if it is
inadvertantly dropped, the scratch happens to the inside where nobody will
ever see it. The advantage of this system is that if it is dark out, the
long screw is secured to the floor and one does not have to search for it at
the end of a 10 inch shaft in a hole in the dark.





"Saintor" <saintor1 DeleteThis @REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I decided to rotate tires this morning, using the spare tire.
>
> The retaining mechanism is nothing short of STUPID.
>
> It has a vertical threaded stud and a flynut.
>
> What do you think happens when you pull out the spare tire, taking 2-3
> moves
> because it is not exactly light?
>
> The stud can scratch the mag! I have now a 3/4" scratch on my mag.
>
> Now that you know, pay more attention than I did. But it is a bad design.
> In
> more conventional cars, it is the contrary, you have a long bolt that will
> screw in a threaded hole.
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Pulling out the spare tire: stupid, stupid... STUPID! 

Understandablew, I've run into issues of the same sort... I usually
cuss for a while, sometimes bleed a little, and then go back, and
discover that there was some sort of logic to how it was done... thats
usually followed by a general cursing of German engineers...
 >> Stay informed about: Pulling out the spare tire: stupid, stupid... STUPID! 

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:56:51 -0400, "Saintor" <saintor1.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHIShotmail.com>
wrote:

> I decided to rotate tires this morning, using the spare tire.
>
>The retaining mechanism is nothing short of STUPID.
>
>It has a vertical threaded stud and a flynut.
>
>What do you think happens when you pull out the spare tire, taking 2-3 moves
>because it is not exactly light?
>
>The stud can scratch the mag! I have now a 3/4" scratch on my mag.
>
>Now that you know, pay more attention than I did. But it is a bad design. In
>more conventional cars, it is the contrary, you have a long bolt that will
>screw in a threaded hole.
>

ah - so you've moved to the bmw group to do your incessant whining thing?

that's excellent! ahahahahahahahaha!
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I never had that trouble.
>
> The wingnut is loosened, the plate is lifted out, and the tire then comes
> out. If the tire is placed with the shiny side up, then if it is
> inadvertantly dropped, the scratch happens to the inside where nobody will
> ever see it.

Sorry, but it is just not true. My mag proves it.
 >> Stay informed about: Pulling out the spare tire: stupid, stupid... STUPID! 

"Saintor" <saintor1 RemoveThis @REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:G7CdnZJAA8J_GHvfRVn-iA@ez2.net...
>> I never had that trouble.
>>
>> The wingnut is loosened, the plate is lifted out, and the tire then comes
>> out. If the tire is placed with the shiny side up, then if it is
>> inadvertantly dropped, the scratch happens to the inside where nobody
>> will
>> ever see it.
>
> Sorry, but it is just not true. My mag proves it.
>
>
Sorry, your crying is falling on deaf ears. Not deaf so much as uncaring. If
you move the floor out of the way, it is an easy task to lift the tire out
on the first try.

PS
I believe there is no recommendation to rotate the tires anyway. I finally
threw away a brand new tire that was 12 years old.
 >> Stay informed about: Pulling out the spare tire: stupid, stupid... STUPID! 

Reason no1 for not rotating your tyres!

Seriously, what is your mag?

Spare wheel removal in my car is ridiculously easy, and can't result in the
wheel being dropped, unless you're a bit cack-handed!
 >> Stay informed about: Pulling out the spare tire: stupid, stupid... STUPID! 

In article <EirFe.26815$hu6.684135@wagner.videotron.net>,
Saintor <saintor1.DeleteThis@REMOVETHIShotmail.com> wrote:
> I decided to rotate tires this morning, using the spare tire.

> The retaining mechanism is nothing short of STUPID.

> It has a vertical threaded stud and a flynut.

> What do you think happens when you pull out the spare tire, taking 2-3
> moves because it is not exactly light?

> The stud can scratch the mag! I have now a 3/4" scratch on my mag.

> Now that you know, pay more attention than I did. But it is a bad
> design. In more conventional cars, it is the contrary, you have a long
> bolt that will screw in a threaded hole.

You've not read your handbook. BMW don't recommend tyre rotation.

--
*He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless, dead.

Dave Plowman dave.DeleteThis@davenoise.co.uk London SW
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 >> Stay informed about: Pulling out the spare tire: stupid, stupid... STUPID! 

In article <1122413672.867758.81770.DeleteThis@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Corey Shuman <cshuman.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Understandablew, I've run into issues of the same sort... I usually
> cuss for a while, sometimes bleed a little, and then go back, and
> discover that there was some sort of logic to how it was done... thats
> usually followed by a general cursing of German engineers...

I'd love to know what's difficult about lifting the spare in a vertical
plane before moving it to one side?

Anyone with a modicum of mechanical knowledge would do just that.

If no modicum, leave it to a pro. Because you'll probably f**k up the
torque settings of the wheel bolts too.

--
*A woman drove me to drink and I didn't have the decency to thank her

Dave Plowman dave.DeleteThis@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:44:19 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
<dave.DeleteThis@davenoise.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <1122413672.867758.81770.DeleteThis@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> Corey Shuman <cshuman.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Understandablew, I've run into issues of the same sort... I usually
>> cuss for a while, sometimes bleed a little, and then go back, and
>> discover that there was some sort of logic to how it was done... thats
>> usually followed by a general cursing of German engineers...
>
> I'd love to know what's difficult about lifting the spare in a vertical
>plane before moving it to one side?

It's the difference between the engineer's approach to something
mechanical and an if-it-won't-fit-then-force-it view of things.
You're unlikely to educate someone who already left an academic
environment about how to do something like this, much less actually
understand it. They simply won't be able to see why they should have
to think that way.

They should be able to just push a button, and it happens.
--
Dan.
 >> Stay informed about: Pulling out the spare tire: stupid, stupid... STUPID! 

> Sorry, your crying is falling on deaf ears. Not deaf so much as uncaring.
If
> you move the floor out of the way, it is an easy task to lift the tire out
> on the first try.
>
> PS
> I believe there is no recommendation to rotate the tires anyway. I finally
> threw away a brand new tire that was 12 years old.
>
>
Make no mistake; on Bimmerfest, many reported having made the same
mishandling. This bad design (I have seen better) is like a trap. I am sure
that this thread will remind at some point people to be more aware of that
risk when handling the spare tire.
 >> Stay informed about: Pulling out the spare tire: stupid, stupid... STUPID! 

Drugs? Get lost idiot.


"daytripper" <day_trippr RemoveThis @REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 09:56:51 -0400, "Saintor"
<saintor1 RemoveThis @REMOVETHIShotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I decided to rotate tires this morning, using the spare tire.
> >
> >The retaining mechanism is nothing short of STUPID.
> >
> >It has a vertical threaded stud and a flynut.
> >
> >What do you think happens when you pull out the spare tire, taking 2-3
moves
> >because it is not exactly light?
> >
> >The stud can scratch the mag! I have now a 3/4" scratch on my mag.
> >
> >Now that you know, pay more attention than I did. But it is a bad design.
In
> >more conventional cars, it is the contrary, you have a long bolt that
will
> >screw in a threaded hole.
> >
>
> ah - so you've moved to the bmw group to do your incessant whining thing?
>
> that's excellent! ahahahahahahahaha!
 >> Stay informed about: Pulling out the spare tire: stupid, stupid... STUPID!