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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2003 10:02 pm
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I'm having a new house built and I'm thinking of using an epoxy based
paint on the garage floor. I've seen one product advertised in some
magazines that uses acids to clean the floor before painting but can't
remember the name. Now I've just seen, at Home Depot, a Rust-Oleum product
called Epoxy Shield which is a water based product for easier clean up and
more "ecology friendly." Any one epoxy their garage floor? What did you use?
Is it working like it's supposed to and how hard was it to apply?

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tranch <tranch.RemoveThis@attglobal.net> wrote in article
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 > I'm having a new house built and I'm thinking of using an epoxy based
 > paint on the garage floor. I've seen one product advertised in some
 > magazines that uses acids to clean the floor before painting but can't
 > remember the name. Now I've just seen, at Home Depot, a Rust-Oleum
product
 > called Epoxy Shield which is a water based product for easier clean up
and
 > more "ecology friendly." Any one epoxy their garage floor? What did you
use?
 > Is it working like it's supposed to and how hard was it to apply?
 >
 >
 >

Having worked in a number of professional shops with coated floors, I,
personally, would not give you a nickel for *any* coatings.

The slightest fluid spill creates a condition as slippery as wet ice, which
will generally require you to stop everything *right now*, and clean up.

And, I do a lot of welding and fabrication, and the coatings simply do not
stand up under those conditions.

If I was building from scratch, however, I would consider coloring the
concrete that is being poured. It will be more permanent, and still give
you a floor with some sort of skid resistance.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 4:39 pm
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did you ever get any information on that paint? I'm thinking of using the
same stuff.
"tranch" <tranch.TakeThisOut@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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 > I'm having a new house built and I'm thinking of using an epoxy based
 > paint on the garage floor. I've seen one product advertised in some
 > magazines that uses acids to clean the floor before painting but can't
 > remember the name. Now I've just seen, at Home Depot, a Rust-Oleum product
 > called Epoxy Shield which is a water based product for easier clean up and
 > more "ecology friendly." Any one epoxy their garage floor? What did you
use?
 > Is it working like it's supposed to and how hard was it to apply?
 >
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 7:09 pm
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i did use the single stage epoxy from home depot when i built my garage
4yrs ago. don't remember the brand...wasn't rustolem. power washed and
then etched/primered the floor...followed all instructions exactly. has
held up well...need gone over again soon. doen't like paint thinners
spilled on it...splatter from welder and torches have left some black
spotting...the sooty type areas do wash off. doesn't appear too slippery
when wet..i do wash and squeege floor on occasion..i do like it painted.

tranch wrote:
 > I'm having a new house built and I'm thinking of using an epoxy based
 > paint on the garage floor. I've seen one product advertised in some
 > magazines that uses acids to clean the floor before painting but can't
 > remember the name. Now I've just seen, at Home Depot, a Rust-Oleum product
 > called Epoxy Shield which is a water based product for easier clean up and
 > more "ecology friendly." Any one epoxy their garage floor? What did you use?
 > Is it working like it's supposed to and how hard was it to apply?
 >
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 8:05 pm
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<tbustamante DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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 > did you ever get any information on that paint? I'm thinking of using the
 > same stuff.
  >>snip<<

Stopped off at Home Depot today and talked to the guy in the paint
department. The Rust-Oleum kit comes with everything you need, cleaner,
epoxy, hardener and paint chips to throw onto the wet paint if you want to
make it fancier. Scrub the floor down until it's clean, let it dry overnight
and apply the epoxy the next day. You can walk on it in 12-24 hours but you
can't park a car on it for 7 days. The whole kit costs $48.00.
I thought the 7 day waiting time was a bit long so I went to a paint
store and asked about their garage floor paint. It was basically the same
procedures and the waiting time was, again, 7 days before you can park a car
on it. Their paint didn't come as a kit and cost a lot more.
I like the idea of being able to go into the garage every few months
with a pressure washer and cleaning the floor and keeping the garage looking
nice. I hate to admit to being "anal" about this but the garage will have
been insulated, dry walled and painted too!!! Can't keep a muscle car in
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 8:13 pm
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"Bob Paulin" <race RemoveThis @mint.net> wrote in message
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 >
 >
  > >snip<<
 >
 > The slightest fluid spill creates a condition as slippery as wet ice,
which
 > will generally require you to stop everything *right now*, and clean up.

I don't plan on doing much more than maybe changing oil, or other
fluuids on the car. Maybe a wax job now and then in the winter, brake job,
tune up and other minor tinkering.

 >
 > And, I do a lot of welding and fabrication, and the coatings simply do not
 > stand up under those conditions.
 >
If I knew how to do those things, this car would have cost me half of
what I've spent!! No need to worry about me doing anything like that.

 > If I was building from scratch, however, I would consider coloring the
 > concrete that is being poured. It will be more permanent, and still give
 > you a floor with some sort of skid resistance.

I talked to the general contractor for the house about coloring the
concrete, not only for the garage but for a patio in the back yard. I also
asked him if he could stamp the concrete and make it look like slate, pavers
or another design. He said his concrete sub-contractor didn't do that kind
of work. So the garage is going to be plain concrete slab and the patio will
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2003 8:17 pm
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"buggs" <mightyeasy.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > i did use the single stage epoxy from home depot when i built my garage
 > 4yrs ago. don't remember the brand...wasn't rustolem. power washed and
 > then etched/primered the floor...followed all instructions exactly. has
 > held up well...need gone over again soon. doen't like paint thinners
 > spilled on it...splatter from welder and torches have left some black
 > spotting...the sooty type areas do wash off. doesn't appear too slippery
 > when wet..i do wash and squeege floor on occasion..i do like it painted.
 >
You may have used the store brand paint, Behr. I looked at that today
also. Basically the same thing as the Rust-Oleum, only it didn't come as a
complete kit. You bought the paint, then the cleaner and some other things.
Turned out to be a bit more expensive.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 12:12 am
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I have had good luck with H&C concrete stain and like the rest doesn't like
welding or lacquer thinner .We put this on in 98 and the floors still don't
look too bad and this is a shop environment so more stuff has already gone
across this floor than will in life time of the average garage. The main
reason we went with this was that most of the epoxies will bond to hot
rubber . In other words if the tires are hot and you roll the car in come
back after they have cooled and back it out it will take the coating off the
floor and be stuck on the tire . Also keep in mind concrete is like paint it
take a lot longer than it appears or that people think to cure and if not
fully cured no coating will stick .
Mike

 > department. The Rust-Oleum kit comes with everything you need, cleaner,
 > epoxy, hardener and paint chips to throw onto the wet paint if you want to
 > make it fancier. Scrub the floor down until it's clean, let it dry
overnight
 > and apply the epoxy the next day. You can walk on it in 12-24 hours but
you
 > can't park a car on it for 7 days. The whole kit costs $48.00.
 > I thought the 7 day waiting time was a bit long so I went to a paint
 > store and asked about their garage floor paint. It was basically the same
 > procedures and the waiting time was, again, 7 days before you can park a
car
 > on it. Their paint didn't come as a kit and cost a lot more.
 > I like the idea of being able to go into the garage every few months
 > with a pressure washer and cleaning the floor and keeping the garage
looking
 > nice. I hate to admit to being "anal" about this but the garage will have
 > been insulated, dry walled and painted too!!! Can't keep a muscle car in
 > just some plain old dirty garage now, can I?!?!?! ;^)
 >
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 2:13 am
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I have put an epoxy coating on my garage floor over 3 years ago & it is
still perfect. The product I used is from Pitsburgh Paints it is called
Aquapon. It is a 2 part mix. The #'s are for the "A" mix are 97-53 & the "B"
are 97-97. I was told this is made for industrial use. You must follow the
instruction, which are easy, etch floor with acid before application, let
dry. I then applied one heavy coat. This MUST dry for 7 days, you can walk
on it after 24 hours, but you should not drive on until at least 7 days.
When you do apply this it does have a nasty smell, I used a respirator. This
is not a water based mix like what they sell at home depot, so what ever you
mix it in & use to apply it with will be trash.
I am very happy how this came out, I to am "anal" about my garage, I receive
many compliments on how clean my garage is. This makes it so easy to clean
up, any spills wipe up very easy.



"tranch" <tranch RemoveThis @attglobal.net> wrote in message
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I'm having a new house built and I'm thinking of using an epoxy based
paint on the garage floor. I've seen one product advertised in some
magazines that uses acids to clean the floor before painting but can't
remember the name. Now I've just seen, at Home Depot, a Rust-Oleum product
called Epoxy Shield which is a water based product for easier clean up and
more "ecology friendly." Any one epoxy their garage floor? What did you use?
Is it working like it's supposed to and how hard was it to apply?
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 7:07 am
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Also you can get this tinted to whatever color you would like. I had it
tinted a light blue, this really brightens the garage up.



"tom" <tomw56.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I have put an epoxy coating on my garage floor over 3 years ago & it is
still perfect. The product I used is from Pitsburgh Paints it is called
Aquapon. It is a 2 part mix. The #'s are for the "A" mix are 97-53 & the "B"
are 97-97. I was told this is made for industrial use. You must follow the
instruction, which are easy, etch floor with acid before application, let
dry. I then applied one heavy coat. This MUST dry for 7 days, you can walk
on it after 24 hours, but you should not drive on until at least 7 days.
When you do apply this it does have a nasty smell, I used a respirator. This
is not a water based mix like what they sell at home depot, so what ever you
mix it in & use to apply it with will be trash.
I am very happy how this came out, I to am "anal" about my garage, I receive
many compliments on how clean my garage is. This makes it so easy to clean
up, any spills wipe up very easy.



"tranch" <tranch.DeleteThis@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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I'm having a new house built and I'm thinking of using an epoxy based
paint on the garage floor. I've seen one product advertised in some
magazines that uses acids to clean the floor before painting but can't
remember the name. Now I've just seen, at Home Depot, a Rust-Oleum product
called Epoxy Shield which is a water based product for easier clean up and
more "ecology friendly." Any one epoxy their garage floor? What did you use?
Is it working like it's supposed to and how hard was it to apply?
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 8:11 pm
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But you still have to wait 28 days or so after your floor is poured to
do it!
Barry A. Lee

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 > <tbustamante.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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 >
  >>did you ever get any information on that paint? I'm thinking of using the
  >>same stuff.
  >>
   >>>snip<<
  >>
 >
 > Stopped off at Home Depot today and talked to the guy in the paint
 > department. The Rust-Oleum kit comes with everything you need, cleaner,
 > epoxy, hardener and paint chips to throw onto the wet paint if you want to
 > make it fancier. Scrub the floor down until it's clean, let it dry overnight
 > and apply the epoxy the next day. You can walk on it in 12-24 hours but you
 > can't park a car on it for 7 days. The whole kit costs $48.00.
 > I thought the 7 day waiting time was a bit long so I went to a paint
 > store and asked about their garage floor paint. It was basically the same
 > procedures and the waiting time was, again, 7 days before you can park a car
 > on it. Their paint didn't come as a kit and cost a lot more.
 > I like the idea of being able to go into the garage every few months
 > with a pressure washer and cleaning the floor and keeping the garage looking
 > nice. I hate to admit to being "anal" about this but the garage will have
 > been insulated, dry walled and painted too!!! Can't keep a muscle car in
 > just some plain old dirty garage now, can I?!?!?! ;^)
 >
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 8:42 pm
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I have used this product. I would recommend it to anyone. You do have to do
a thorough clean and prep first, but its worth it. I have spilled gas, break
fluid, and oil on the floor and it all just wipes up. I have even cleaned
glue off the floor with acetone with no damage to the epoxy. Nothing seems
to hurt this stuff, although you can chip it by dropping something heavy on
it. The kit comes with paint flakes that you can broadcast over the epoxy
while its still wet. I would recommend this, as the multi-color flakes hide
spots or imperfections better than a single monocolor surface. One thing I
would warn you against - don't apply if the air temperature is above 85. You
have to apply the coating in a series of small squares to be able to
broadcast the flakes. If its too hot, the epoxy sets up too fast and you can
see where the squares overlap at the edges.
Jim

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"tranch" <tranch.RemoveThis@attglobal.net> wrote in message
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 > I'm having a new house built and I'm thinking of using an epoxy based
 > paint on the garage floor. I've seen one product advertised in some
 > magazines that uses acids to clean the floor before painting but can't
 > remember the name. Now I've just seen, at Home Depot, a Rust-Oleum product
 > called Epoxy Shield which is a water based product for easier clean up and
 > more "ecology friendly." Any one epoxy their garage floor? What did you
use?
 > Is it working like it's supposed to and how hard was it to apply?
 >
 >




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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 9:13 pm
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"dodgeboy" <68gtx44000 DeleteThis @rogers.com> wrote in message
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 > But you still have to wait 28 days or so after your floor is poured to
 > do it!
 > Barry A. Lee
 >

They recommend at least a 28 day cure for new concrete. I'd probably
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:13 pm
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Personally I'd recommend a *lot* longer than that if it is poured in
anything but very hot weather.
All masonary products hold moisture if any is available, so paint during the
driest possible weather.

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 > "dodgeboy" <68gtx44000.RemoveThis@rogers.com> wrote in message
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  > > But you still have to wait 28 days or so after your floor is poured to
  > > do it!
 > They recommend at least a 28 day cure for new concrete. I'd probably
 > double that just to be sure.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:17 pm
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If skid-resistance is important to you, simply brush the finish in those
desired areas as the concrete begins to set.
You could make *paths* for your bays if you find it necessary. That way,
you won't need to pour sand in your new floor paint.

HTH


"Bob Paulin" <race.DeleteThis@mint.net> wrote >
 > If I was building from scratch, however, I would consider coloring the
 > concrete that is being poured. It will be more permanent, and still give
 > you a floor with some sort of skid resistance.
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