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hunkman7

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:23 am
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With recent transmission problems Honda has some catching up to do.
Besides, they are now also starting to fall behind on technology. Rear
drum brakes on the 2005 Accord? And the interior is in bad need of
updating. Tsk, tsk.

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Brian Smith

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:55 am
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<hunkman7.TakeThisOut@excite.com> wrote in message
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> With recent transmission problems Honda has some catching up to do.
> Besides, they are now also starting to fall behind on technology. Rear
> drum brakes on the 2005 Accord? And the interior is in bad need of
> updating. Tsk, tsk.

I'd prefer to have drums rather than disks on the rear of my Accord. The
primary reason is that they last so much longer and don't have to be
serviced/checked every six months.

Brian

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:03 pm
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Rear drums are only on the DX or LX, EX gets discs. You most not know
Honda's too well. I'm most everybody on here has owned GM cars in the
past. Thats why we have Honda's now. I have worked in a Chevy garage for
33 years. I see GM at its best and worst. Honda is having a bit af trouble
with tranmissions at present. Right now in our shop in Phoenix we have 6
Malibu's and Impala's all waiting for new engines. 3.5 V-6 and we have
already done 4 others, and we are just one dealer. Imagine how mant other
engines are failing nationwide. Crankshaft key breaks and pistons hit
valves. All have less than 3000 miles , owners not happy. Any body can
make errors when building cars. But GM is the master at it. Dont forget
what G.M.C. stands for,
Garage Mechanics Companion. hehehe
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Jason3

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:03 pm
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In article
<11df0577788830832062ce2098fda164.RemoveThis@localhost.talkaboutautos.com>, "zonie"
<sjemoomaw@nospam> wrote:

> Rear drums are only on the DX or LX, EX gets discs. You most not know
> Honda's too well. I'm most everybody on here has owned GM cars in the
> past. Thats why we have Honda's now. I have worked in a Chevy garage for
> 33 years. I see GM at its best and worst. Honda is having a bit af trouble
> with tranmissions at present. Right now in our shop in Phoenix we have 6
> Malibu's and Impala's all waiting for new engines. 3.5 V-6 and we have
> already done 4 others, and we are just one dealer. Imagine how mant other
> engines are failing nationwide. Crankshaft key breaks and pistons hit
> valves. All have less than 3000 miles , owners not happy. Any body can
> make errors when building cars. But GM is the master at it. Dont forget
> what G.M.C. stands for,
> Garage Mechanics Companion. hehehe

Hello,
Great post. I had lots of trouble out of Chevy Monza. That was my last
one. I only have two questions for those people that love or own a GM
vehicle. If GM truly believes their vehicles are great, why do they place
Honda engines in at least one of the Saturn models? Don't they have any
confidence in the engines made by GM?
Jason

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L Alpert

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:17 pm
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hunkman7 RemoveThis @excite.com wrote:
> With recent transmission problems Honda has some catching up to do.
> Besides, they are now also starting to fall behind on technology.
> Rear drum brakes on the 2005 Accord? And the interior is in bad need
> of updating. Tsk, tsk.

Funny, my 2004 has disc in the back....
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rjdriver

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:01 pm
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<hunkman7.TakeThisOut@excite.com> wrote in message
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> Sure, the source of this information is the 2005 JD Powers Survey

Most JD Power Surveys cover the first 6 months of ownership only. Can you
tell us more details of this one or supply a link.


Bob




>
> rjdriver wrote:
>> <hunkman7.TakeThisOut@excite.com> wrote in message
>> news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > .... While Buick and Cadillac models are now tops in relibility over
>> > all
>> > other makes,
>>
>>
>> I'm sure you meant to say "reliability", but could you please reveal the
>> source of this conclusion. What study or what survey says so?
>>
>> Bob
>>
>
> Sure, the source of this information is the 2005 JD Powers Survey and
> yes, I meant 'reliability'. Thanks!
>
>>
>>
>>
>> the
>> > recent incentives have pushed sales up 41 %. GM has increased its
>> > market share from 23% last year to 31% this year. This is expected to
>> > increase, as GM drops the incentive programs in favor of lower prices
>> > on most models. GM sales in Europe have risen 28% over 2004, while it
>> > is closing in on Volkswagen, which is the number one seller in China.
>> >
>> > Among the losers is Toyota, which is taken the brunt of the General
>> > Motors offensive. It is hard to beat great prices, great reliability
>> > and great product!
>> >
>
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Stewart DIBBS

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:42 pm
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> <hunkman7.RemoveThis@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> .... While Buick and Cadillac models are now tops in relibility

Hmmm, relibility. So GMs are now relible. Sounds like a subject for a Monty
Python script ... "something about my car you find relible..."

I've always though that the JD Powers Initial Quality award is a bit
specious. All new cars are pretty nice (or is that nice and pretty?) for the
first 6 months. A far better measure is how the car has lasted after 2 years
or so.

Stewart DIBBS
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Sid Schweiger

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:07 pm
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>>that hack job built by Isuzu and sold by Honda. Isuzu called their
version to Rodeo. I can not remember the Honda name.<<

That would be the Passport. I had one, and in over 105,000 miles it was
completely trouble-free. When I no longer needed an SUV for work, I got rid
of it, because it got only 16 mpg (mostly highway driving) on a good day.
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Brian Stell

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:55 am
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zonie wrote:
> Rear drums are only on the DX or LX, EX gets discs.

LX V6 also has disks in back
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Steve Bigelow

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(Msg. 25) Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 6:44 pm
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"Jason" <jason.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Great post. I had lots of trouble out of Chevy Monza. That was my last
> one.

A....._Monza_?
What model year was that, "Jason"?
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Ron M.

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(Msg. 26) Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:53 pm
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"D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Good point. I guess I should have just said that "Honda and Toyota make
> better products" and left it at that.

Even with the alleged decline in quality of Toyota and Honda vehicles, I
would still trust them over product offerings from GM, Ford and
Daimler-Chrysler. Also, I find most vehicles from Toyota/Lexus, Honda/Acura
and Nissan/Infiniti to be far more desirable than similar offerings from
Detroit's Big 3. I realize that this is just a matter of personal
preference, but that's the way I feel about it. And I make no apologies to
the fans of domestic vehicles. They can drive what they want and I will do
the same. I know full well what types of vehicles I trust and enjoy driving,
and it just so happens that they are all engineered and manufactured by the
Asian Big 3--either overseas or here in the U.S.A.
I'm the one that has to pay for the vehicle and its maintenance, so I could
care lesser than less what anyone thinks about what I choose to drive.

Ron M.
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