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hunkman7

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:55 pm Post subject: GM tops reliability and regains market share Archived from groups: alt>autos>honda (more info?)

The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off. While Buick and Cadillac models are now tops in relibility over all other makes, the recent incentives have pushed sales up 41 %. GM has increased its market share from 23% last year to 31% this year. This is expected to increase, as GM drops the incentive programs in favor of lower prices on most models. GM sales in Europe have risen 28% over 2004, while it is closing in on Volkswagen, which is the number one seller in China. Among the losers is Toyota, which is taken the brunt of the General Motors offensive. It is hard to beat great prices, great reliability and great product! >> Stay informed about: GM tops reliability and regains market share

Stewart DIBBS

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

<hunkman7 RemoveThis @excite.com> wrote in message news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off. And this is important to the Honda new group because ...? Stewart DIBBS >> Stay informed about: GM tops reliability and regains market share

sam

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Well Hondas are priced high due to their perceived quality so if gm has closed the gap Honda has new competition!! Important to the group because if you're looking for a car, might want to look at gm Stewart DIBBS wrote: > <hunkman7 DeleteThis @excite.com> wrote in message > news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >>The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off. > > > And this is important to the Honda new group because ...? > > Stewart DIBBS > > >> Stay informed about: GM tops reliability and regains market share

rjdriver

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

<hunkman7 DeleteThis @excite.com> wrote in message news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > .... While Buick and Cadillac models are now tops in relibility over all > other makes, I'm sure you meant to say "reliability", but could you please reveal the source of this conclusion. What study or what survey says so? Bob the > recent incentives have pushed sales up 41 %. GM has increased its > market share from 23% last year to 31% this year. This is expected to > increase, as GM drops the incentive programs in favor of lower prices > on most models. GM sales in Europe have risen 28% over 2004, while it > is closing in on Volkswagen, which is the number one seller in China. > > Among the losers is Toyota, which is taken the brunt of the General > Motors offensive. It is hard to beat great prices, great reliability > and great product! > >> Stay informed about: GM tops reliability and regains market share

twfsa2

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

If your looking for a headache look at a GM product! Tom "sam" <justwantsmore RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message news:11er02ofb6pcfe8@news.supernews.com... > Well Hondas are priced high due to their perceived quality so if gm has > closed the gap Honda has new competition!! Important to the group because > if you're looking for a car, might want to look at gm > > Stewart DIBBS wrote: >> <hunkman7 RemoveThis @excite.com> wrote in message >> news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> >>>The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off. >> >> >> And this is important to the Honda new group because ...? >> >> Stewart DIBBS >> Stay informed about: GM tops reliability and regains market share

Shawn Taylor

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

what studys show that JUST the reliablity is making GM increase in sales? Have you looked on the side of the road lately? Theres GM's reliability! <hunkman7 DeleteThis @excite.com> wrote in message news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off. While Buick and > Cadillac models are now tops in relibility over all other makes, the > recent incentives have pushed sales up 41 %. GM has increased its > market share from 23% last year to 31% this year. This is expected to > increase, as GM drops the incentive programs in favor of lower prices > on most models. GM sales in Europe have risen 28% over 2004, while it > is closing in on Volkswagen, which is the number one seller in China. > > Among the losers is Toyota, which is taken the brunt of the General > Motors offensive. It is hard to beat great prices, great reliability > and great product! > >> Stay informed about: GM tops reliability and regains market share

Brian Smith

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"sam" <justwantsmore.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:11er02ofb6pcfe8@news.supernews.com... > Well Hondas are priced high due to their perceived quality so if gm has > closed the gap Honda has new competition!! Important to the group because > if you're looking for a car, might want to look at gm Owning a GM is okay if you have a good deal with the local tow truck operation. I speak from experience {;^( But I'm much better now, I've been a happy and satisfied Honda owner since 1979. Brian >> Stay informed about: GM tops reliability and regains market share

John Horner

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:55 am Post subject: Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

hunkman7.DeleteThis@excite.com wrote: > The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off. While Buick and > Cadillac models are now tops in relibility over all other makes, the > recent incentives have pushed sales up 41 %. GM has increased its > market share from 23% last year to 31% this year. This is expected to > increase, as GM drops the incentive programs in favor of lower prices > on most models. GM sales in Europe have risen 28% over 2004, while it > is closing in on Volkswagen, which is the number one seller in China. > > Among the losers is Toyota, which is taken the brunt of the General > Motors offensive. It is hard to beat great prices, great reliability > and great product! > Interesting. We own a 2003 Honda Accord and a 2002 Olds Silhoette. Both have spent more time in the shop than I would expect to see. The Honda just got a new transmission under warranty while the Olds is presently having the A/C condensor replaced at a cost of $900. The Honda has gone through brake pads much faster than one would expect and needed new rotors sooner than any other car I have ever owned. My personal experience is that GM has been improving quality in recent years while Honda has been cutting corners. The gap is not what it used to be. Johnj >> Stay informed about: GM tops reliability and regains market share

Brian Smith

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:55 am Post subject: Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Shawn Taylor" <accordpower99.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message news:_ygHe.64328$FP2.55658@lakeread03... > what studys show that JUST the reliablity is making GM increase in sales? > Have you looked on the side of the road lately? Theres GM's reliability! That shows that they have added the reliability that their products will break down more. {;^) Brian >> Stay informed about: GM tops reliability and regains market share

zonie2

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I could not care less about what happens at GM. Honda products are not perfect just way better then anything GM builds here. Honda has never needed to resort to pricing discounts to sell their cars and have a reputation for quality second to nobody and high resale too boot. Now even in GM's Saturn Vue you will find a HONDA 3.5 v-6 engine , appears like they know whats good also. Scott >> Stay informed about: GM tops reliability and regains market share

motsco_ _

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

zonie wrote: > I could not care less about what happens at GM. Honda products are not > perfect just way better then anything GM builds here. Honda has never > needed to resort to pricing discounts to sell their cars and have a > reputation for quality second to nobody and high resale too boot. Now even > in GM's Saturn Vue you will find a HONDA 3.5 v-6 engine , appears like they > know whats good also. Scott --------------------------- I wouldn't buy a Saturn Vue if it came with THREE Honda engines in it . .. . You can't turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. Resale value may be a bit better on that version, but time will tell 'Curly' >> Stay informed about: GM tops reliability and regains market share

TWW

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

<hunkman7.DeleteThis@excite.com> wrote in message news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off. While Buick and > Cadillac models are now tops in relibility over all other makes, the > recent incentives have pushed sales up 41 %. GM has increased its > market share from 23% last year to 31% this year. This is expected to > increase, as GM drops the incentive programs in favor of lower prices > on most models. GM sales in Europe have risen 28% over 2004, while it > is closing in on Volkswagen, which is the number one seller in China. > > Among the losers is Toyota, which is taken the brunt of the General > Motors offensive. It is hard to beat great prices, great reliability > and great product! > GM resorted to the big discounts to move their huge SUVs. They have a few models that have fared fairly well in Consumer Reports reliability ratings -- like Buick LeSabre and the like, but Cadillac is still in the toilet. I would never trade my Prelude for anything GM makes -- and that includes a Corvette. And, I have owned a couple Corvettes before. >> Stay informed about: GM tops reliability and regains market share

zonie2

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

I wasnt trying to say the rest of the car was any good. Just making a statement . I woundnt have one either. Honda for me. Scott >> Stay informed about: GM tops reliability and regains market share

twfsa2

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Best thing about my Honda and others I see, the paint isn't falling off, like I've seen on alot of GM and Chrysler products, if either manufacture had any balls they would re-paint those vehicles at no cost to the owner. Tom "TWW" <twaugh5.TakeThisOut@cox.net> wrote in message news:54yHe.54605$rb6.13378@lakeread07... > > <hunkman7.TakeThisOut@excite.com> wrote in message > news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> The many changes made by GM appear to be paying off. While Buick and >> Cadillac models are now tops in relibility over all other makes, the >> recent incentives have pushed sales up 41 %. GM has increased its >> market share from 23% last year to 31% this year. This is expected to >> increase, as GM drops the incentive programs in favor of lower prices >> on most models. GM sales in Europe have risen 28% over 2004, while it >> is closing in on Volkswagen, which is the number one seller in China. >> >> Among the losers is Toyota, which is taken the brunt of the General >> Motors offensive. It is hard to beat great prices, great reliability >> and great product! >> > GM resorted to the big discounts to move their huge SUVs. They have a few > models that have fared fairly well in Consumer Reports reliability > ratings -- like Buick LeSabre and the like, but Cadillac is still in the > toilet. I would never trade my Prelude for anything GM makes -- and that > includes a Corvette. And, I have owned a couple Corvettes before. > > >> Stay informed about: GM tops reliability and regains market share

hunkman7

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:21 am Post subject: Re: GM tops reliability and regains market share [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

rjdriver wrote: > <hunkman7 DeleteThis @excite.com> wrote in message > news:1122854121.042620.110020@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > .... While Buick and Cadillac models are now tops in relibility over all > > other makes, > > > I'm sure you meant to say "reliability", but could you please reveal the > source of this conclusion. What study or what survey says so? > > Bob > Sure, the source of this information is the 2005 JD Powers Survey and yes, I meant 'reliability'. Thanks! > > > > the > > recent incentives have pushed sales up 41 %. GM has increased its > > market share from 23% last year to 31% this year. This is expected to > > increase, as GM drops the incentive programs in favor of lower prices > > on most models. GM sales in Europe have risen 28% over 2004, while it > > is closing in on Volkswagen, which is the number one seller in China. > > > > Among the losers is Toyota, which is taken the brunt of the General > > Motors offensive. It is hard to beat great prices, great reliability > > and great product! > > >> Stay informed about: GM tops reliability and regains market share

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