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nothermark

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(Msg. 61) Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:55 pm
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On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 12:22:36 -0400, Tom Reingold
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>nothermark wrote:
>
>> The only minivan that will tow a significant load is the Chevy/GMC as
>> it still has a frame and rear drive. The rest are oversized sedans.
>> With Chrysler the quote I often hear is "after 20 years you'd think
>> they could make a transmission that lasted more than 70K miles". Then
>> there is ground clearance and 4wd. Not everyone needs All those
>> features all the time but most folks who buy SUV's think they need
>> some of them some of the time. If they didn't they would buy
>> something else, like a luxury sedan.
>>
>> A thought. Folks who buy big vehicles aren't that bothered by gas
>> milage. They buy the vehicle because they think they need the utility
>> some of the time. Driving it to work alone is not why they own the
>> vehicle. It's just more cost effective to use a gallon instead of a
>> half gallon to get to work and not buy the second car. Assuming one
>> can garage the second car. Not all folks can. If they don't need the
>> load capacity they can get the rest with a small SUV like the Honda
>> CRV at quite reasonable milage.
>
>
>Yes, it probably goes something like that, often. I think it's bad math,
>though. People want to own stuff because they might use it. I saved
>money by buying my Subaru, so I can rent a minivan when I need to. I can
>also rent an SUV but I've never felt the need to.
>
>Tom

If that works for you that's fine. On the other hand price renting a
larger SUV 15 or 20 times a year. That is what folks with campers
would need. Then there are the horse folks, boat folks, snowmobile
folks, home handyfolks, etc. And don't forget most of them want them
on the same weekends. Wink

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Tom Reingold

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(Msg. 62) Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:10 am
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nothermark wrote:

>>Yes, it probably goes something like that, often. I think it's bad math,
>>though. People want to own stuff because they might use it. I saved
>>money by buying my Subaru, so I can rent a minivan when I need to. I can
>>also rent an SUV but I've never felt the need to.
>>
>>Tom
>
>
> If that works for you that's fine. On the other hand price renting a
> larger SUV 15 or 20 times a year. That is what folks with campers
> would need. Then there are the horse folks, boat folks, snowmobile
> folks, home handyfolks, etc. And don't forget most of them want them
> on the same weekends. Wink


Right. Those people should own SUV's. And they do. Good.

That doesn't explain why 99% of SUV owners made their decisions, though.

Tom

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nothermark

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(Msg. 63) Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:55 am
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On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 10:10:42 -0400, Tom Reingold
<tlr.usenet.0525.DeleteThis@spambob.net> wrote:

>nothermark wrote:
>
>>>Yes, it probably goes something like that, often. I think it's bad math,
>>>though. People want to own stuff because they might use it. I saved
>>>money by buying my Subaru, so I can rent a minivan when I need to. I can
>>>also rent an SUV but I've never felt the need to.
>>>
>>>Tom
>>
>>
>> If that works for you that's fine. On the other hand price renting a
>> larger SUV 15 or 20 times a year. That is what folks with campers
>> would need. Then there are the horse folks, boat folks, snowmobile
>> folks, home handyfolks, etc. And don't forget most of them want them
>> on the same weekends. Wink
>
>
>Right. Those people should own SUV's. And they do. Good.
>
>That doesn't explain why 99% of SUV owners made their decisions, though.
>
>Tom

either you underrstimate the number of folks involved in the listed
activities or I over estimate them. Maybe you should try asking the
folks who drive them why they do. The one's I deal with have a reason
that makes sense in most cases. If they don't they ususally got
talked into one by a relative who was worried about them driving in
the winter. In the latter category they mostly get the little one's
that are just rederessed cars. They worry me much less than the folks
going for the big Sedans.
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bob

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(Msg. 64) Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:54 pm
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To quote a TV ad for the Hyundai Santa Fe (I think that's the model),
"...rugged looking"

Says it all, dun it?

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"Tom Reingold" <tlr.usenet.0525.TakeThisOut@spambob.net> wrote in message
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> nothermark wrote:
>
> > FWIW - check the milage ratings. Comparable size vans and SUV's get
> > about the same milage. From what I can tell the real issues are
> > weight and frontal cross section area.
> >
> > Note: my only observation is that SUV's are really targeted as
> > political BS. Reallity is that if the folks driving them need the
> > capacity it doesn't matter whether they are driving an SUV or a full
> > size sedan or a minivan. If they tow much more than a ton they can
> > only pick a larger SUV of truck as the minivan's and cars don't have
> > high towing capacity anymore.
>
>
> I agree, but minivans generally have more interior space. So remind me
> what the advantage of an SUV are, over a minivan.
>
> Tom
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jabario

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(Msg. 65) Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 4:23 am
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All of NY city is a modern day Sodom. No one who cares about their
family would live in NY.
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