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(Msg. 31) Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:55 pm
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:57:36 GMT, nothermark <trash.DeleteThis@gnomex.cotse.net>
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>On 25 Jul 2005 04:06:48 -0700, jabario.DeleteThis@backpacker.com wrote:
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>>Most of the women driving the huge suv's here in NJ are short. Vehicles
>>can make inadequate people feel better by saying "look at me". The
>>vehicles are meeting a psychological need.
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>Not the derogatory one you keep pushing.
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>Do they have a trailer hitch on the back?
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>If they do it is much more likely the user has a boat or trailer and
>needs a tow vehicle. Often the woman gets the more reliable vehicle
>and/or the one that hauls the kids better. Around here quite a few
>non towing folks traded their mini vans for full size SUV's because of
>he perceived safety and 4 wheel features. The same mentality sells
>singles/couples not child hauling the smaller SUV junk that won't tow
>for example the honda CR-V.
Yes, and driving an SUV now is almost a guarantee that the driver will
get into an accident of some sort, viz. the New York Times article
from last year (was it?), because of their arrogance and careless
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:55 am
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:06:48 GMT, KLS <xymergy.TakeThisOut@suds.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:58:10 GMT, nothermark <trash.TakeThisOut@gnomex.cotse.net>
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>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 05:42:22 GMT, Moon Guy <someone.TakeThisOut@hell.low> wrote:
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>>>In article <Xns969AB7DCFCA7Akc1ihmaccom.TakeThisOut@216.168.3.30>,
>>> Larry Weil <kc1ih.TakeThisOut@mac.com> wrote:
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>>>> S.U.V. = Stupid Useless Vehicle
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>>>Stupid Unecessary Vehicle is more like it for most.
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>>What would you buy if you had two or three teenagers to haul around?
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>A station wagon.
Thank you - you made my point. A Detroit station wagon is an SUV
these days. For that matter the Tribeca and the new Chrysler wagon
seem to be looking at the same market as far as the looks cool folks.
Oh, and by the way, where does one buy a full size wagon with 4 wheel
or all wheel drive? You may not need that in NJ unless you drive the
sand roads but you do find it very usefull anywhere there is
significant snowfall or unpaved roads.
It's fun to bash the SUV folks. I admit I do it too for some of them.
However, the reality is that the vehicles also have a reasonable
number of folks who buy them because they have a need part of the
time. The bashers often don't bother to process that, given an
unlimitied budget and parking situation a lot of folks soloing a Ford
Explorer to work would swith to a smaller car by choice for that trip
but they can't have two vehicles and they need the SUV for part of
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:55 am
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:31:08 -0700, "Bryce" <fukuzz DeleteThis @hotmail.com>
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>I never see the fat women in the SUV's towing anything around here. It
>appears more like it's the only thing that they would really fit in.
No arguement from me. 
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>"nothermark" <trash DeleteThis @gnomex.cotse.net> wrote in message
>news:ghjae11jnk54q9m43dhlp6u1et9kl4im45@4ax.com...
>> On 25 Jul 2005 04:06:48 -0700, jabario DeleteThis @backpacker.com wrote:
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>>>Most of the women driving the huge suv's here in NJ are short. Vehicles
>>>can make inadequate people feel better by saying "look at me". The
>>>vehicles are meeting a psychological need.
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>> Not the derogatory one you keep pushing.
>>
>> Do they have a trailer hitch on the back?
>>
>> If they do it is much more likely the user has a boat or trailer and
>> needs a tow vehicle. Often the woman gets the more reliable vehicle
>> and/or the one that hauls the kids better. Around here quite a few
>> non towing folks traded their mini vans for full size SUV's because of
>> he perceived safety and 4 wheel features. The same mentality sells
>> singles/couples not child hauling the smaller SUV junk that won't tow
>> for example the honda CR-V.
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:12 am
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I agree. The Tribeca is all about market share. Time will tell
whether it was wise for Soob to get away from its roots. The SUV
worked well for the Germans, but I think the Tribeca is too little, too
late. I'm one of the majority who like it, but wouldn't buy it.
LK >> Stay informed about: Definition of a SUV |
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:15 am
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The original SUVs -- the original Cherokee, Blazer, Bronco, Suburban,
etc. -- were extremely sport and utility oriented. It's the new ones
that are too nice and expensive to even get dirty that really are
useless for sport or utility.
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:50 am
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KLS wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:57:36 GMT, nothermark <trash.DeleteThis@gnomex.cotse.net>
> wrote:
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>>On 25 Jul 2005 04:06:48 -0700, jabario.DeleteThis@backpacker.com wrote:
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>>>Most of the women driving the huge suv's here in NJ are short. Vehicles
>>>can make inadequate people feel better by saying "look at me". The
>>>vehicles are meeting a psychological need.
>>
>>Not the derogatory one you keep pushing.
>>
>>Do they have a trailer hitch on the back?
>>
>>If they do it is much more likely the user has a boat or trailer and
>>needs a tow vehicle. Often the woman gets the more reliable vehicle
>>and/or the one that hauls the kids better. Around here quite a few
>>non towing folks traded their mini vans for full size SUV's because of
>>he perceived safety and 4 wheel features. The same mentality sells
>>singles/couples not child hauling the smaller SUV junk that won't tow
>>for example the honda CR-V.
>
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> Yes, and driving an SUV now is almost a guarantee that the driver will
> get into an accident of some sort, viz. the New York Times article
> from last year (was it?), because of their arrogance and careless
> evaluation of the risks of the road.
>
I think it was the New Yorker Magazine. >> Stay informed about: Definition of a SUV |
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:55 pm
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lkreh wrote:
> The SUV
> worked well for the Germans, but I think the Tribeca is too little, too
> late. I'm one of the majority who like it, but wouldn't buy it.
An awful lot of people buy German SUV's simply because they say
Mercedes, BMW, Volkswagen, or Porsche on the hood.
Those folks, who usually list "prestige" as a feature, probably wouldn't
even look at a Subaru. >> Stay informed about: Definition of a SUV |
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:55 pm
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nothermark <trash.RemoveThis@gnomex.cotse.net> wrote in
news:hfkae1pcs8nj7l6a6dg25183ucsrrm1cgp@4ax.com:
>>Stupid Unecessary Vehicle is more like it for most.
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> What would you buy if you had two or three teenagers to haul around?
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A Subaru Legacy!
--
Larry Weil
Lake Wobegone, NH >> Stay informed about: Definition of a SUV |
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:55 pm
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:50:17 -0400, Tom Reingold
<tlr.usenet.0525.TakeThisOut@spambob.net> wrote:
>KLS wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:57:36 GMT, nothermark <trash.TakeThisOut@gnomex.cotse.net>
>> wrote:
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>>>On 25 Jul 2005 04:06:48 -0700, jabario.TakeThisOut@backpacker.com wrote:
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>>>
>>>>Most of the women driving the huge suv's here in NJ are short. Vehicles
>>>>can make inadequate people feel better by saying "look at me". The
>>>>vehicles are meeting a psychological need.
>>>
>>>Not the derogatory one you keep pushing.
>>>
>>>Do they have a trailer hitch on the back?
>>>
>>>If they do it is much more likely the user has a boat or trailer and
>>>needs a tow vehicle. Often the woman gets the more reliable vehicle
>>>and/or the one that hauls the kids better. Around here quite a few
>>>non towing folks traded their mini vans for full size SUV's because of
>>>he perceived safety and 4 wheel features. The same mentality sells
>>>singles/couples not child hauling the smaller SUV junk that won't tow
>>>for example the honda CR-V.
>>
>>
>> Yes, and driving an SUV now is almost a guarantee that the driver will
>> get into an accident of some sort, viz. the New York Times article
>> from last year (was it?), because of their arrogance and careless
>> evaluation of the risks of the road.
>>
>
>I think it was the New Yorker Magazine.
Neither one would let truth mess with poltical views.
What I'm wondering is if it would be worth starting a collsion shop
specializing in all these crunched SUV's. >> Stay informed about: Definition of a SUV |
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:55 pm
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Here's a scary thought. How many of you, as teenagers, got Mom or Dad's
old car for your first car? OK - now, think about teenagers (with cell
phones) driving around in Navigators and Suburbans!
we're doomed!
Carl
nothermark wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:50:17 -0400, Tom Reingold
> <tlr.usenet.0525 DeleteThis @spambob.net> wrote:
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>>KLS wrote:
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>>>On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:57:36 GMT, nothermark <trash DeleteThis @gnomex.cotse.net>
>>>wrote:
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>>>
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>>>>On 25 Jul 2005 04:06:48 -0700, jabario DeleteThis @backpacker.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Most of the women driving the huge suv's here in NJ are short. Vehicles
>>>>>can make inadequate people feel better by saying "look at me". The
>>>>>vehicles are meeting a psychological need.
>>>>
>>>>Not the derogatory one you keep pushing.
>>>>
>>>>Do they have a trailer hitch on the back?
>>>>
>>>>If they do it is much more likely the user has a boat or trailer and
>>>>needs a tow vehicle. Often the woman gets the more reliable vehicle
>>>>and/or the one that hauls the kids better. Around here quite a few
>>>>non towing folks traded their mini vans for full size SUV's because of
>>>>he perceived safety and 4 wheel features. The same mentality sells
>>>>singles/couples not child hauling the smaller SUV junk that won't tow
>>>>for example the honda CR-V.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, and driving an SUV now is almost a guarantee that the driver will
>>>get into an accident of some sort, viz. the New York Times article
>>>from last year (was it?), because of their arrogance and careless
>>>evaluation of the risks of the road.
>>>
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>>I think it was the New Yorker Magazine.
>
>
> Neither one would let truth mess with poltical views.
>
> What I'm wondering is if it would be worth starting a collsion shop
> specializing in all these crunched SUV's.
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:55 pm
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 01:50:50 GMT, nothermark <trash RemoveThis @gnomex.cotse.net>
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>What I'm wondering is if it would be worth starting a collsion shop
>specializing in all these crunched SUV's.
OF COURSE!!!! >> Stay informed about: Definition of a SUV |
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:17 am
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:55 pm
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jabario RemoveThis @backpacker.com wrote:
>>>The WRX' and STis are superb
> vehicles that only improve as the years wear on. <<
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> Fine for boy racers and those who desire high performance.w/o
> practicality. Tow with and STi? Not recommended. Roof rack? Have to
> buy it. Carry large loads? No. I'm glad they sell the Sti but to me
Boy racers? And what was it, again, that makes you think "boy" racers can
afford the purchase and upkeep of an STi in the long run?
>>>Subaru didn't name it after the enclave,<<
> But the name is the same and the commercial makes the vehicle seem
> wimpy. I wouldnt buy any vehicle with a ridiculous name like that.
Who's problem is it that he can't dissociate the name of the vehicle from
some minor town that he doesn't like? That's really your issue--don't go
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:55 pm
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jabario.TakeThisOut@backpacker.com wrote:
> It isn't wise to name a car after a part of a cesspool of a city that
> is filled with deviants. Most of America has Christian values and
> finds that behavior an abomination. The museums are really the only
> worthwhile thing in NYC. A car name should be neutral or express a
> positive connotation.
That particular cross-sextion of America just needs another demon since the
cold war ended; quite frankly, they and their narrow-minded foolishness are
precisely what give tyrants a reason and support to destroy civilisations.
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:55 pm
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Tom Reingold wrote:
> I thought Christians believe in loving thine enemy as thyself, but what
> do I know?
Not anymore. Neo-conservatives have taken it upon themselves to become the
illegitimate leaders of the Christian conservatives; unfortunately for the
populace, they'll realise too late that these people are not Christians
themselves, and are leading them down a path they really don't want to be.
People like them, though, because these people give them something and
someone to hate, and everyone with poor or no education loves to hate.
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