Chrysler Crossfire

On Sonntag, 15. Mai 2005 16:47 Bill Putney wrote in
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 > Heh heh! Pig thrower or main moose thrower - that must be the bumper.
 > On steam trains, we had cow catchers on the front of the engines. "Cow
 > thrower" would make more sense. I mean, it wasn't like they were trying
 > to catch the darn things!

It is like with 2 airplanes coming very close ... in Germany we say
"Beinahe-Zusammenstoß" (which would translate to something like "near
hit"), while in english it is called "near miss".

Does that mean "I get You the next time" ... ... ?

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Hans Mücke wrote:

 > It is like with 2 airplanes coming very close ... in Germany we say
 > "Beinahe-Zusammenstoß" (which would translate to something like "near
 > hit"), while in english it is called "near miss".

True.

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Norm & Debbie wrote:

 > Group, what are your opinions of the Chrysler Crossfire? I am researching
 > insights on the Crossfire for a possible purchase. Thanks!
 >
 > norm
 >
 >

My opinion went up now that they're selling them at bargain basement
prices... when it was a substantial fraction of the cost of a Viper it
didn't impress me AT ALL.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Hans Mücke wrote:


 >
 > It is like with 2 airplanes coming very close ... in Germany we say
 > "Beinahe-Zusammenstoß" (which would translate to something like "near
 > hit"), while in english it is called "near miss".

Yes, English is fun. We drive on parkways and park on driveways too :-p<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Steve wrote:

 > Hans Mücke wrote:
 >
 >
  >>
  >> It is like with 2 airplanes coming very close ... in Germany we say
  >> "Beinahe-Zusammenstoß" (which would translate to something like "near
  >> hit"), while in english it is called "near miss".
 >
 >
 > Yes, English is fun. We drive on parkways and park on driveways too :-p
 >

And we have people that are disgruntled, but no-one that is gruntled.

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Steve wrote:
 > Hans Mücke wrote:
 >
 >
  >>
  >> It is like with 2 airplanes coming very close ... in Germany we say
  >> "Beinahe-Zusammenstoß" (which would translate to something like "near
  >> hit"), while in english it is called "near miss".
 >
 >
 > Yes, English is fun. We drive on parkways and park on driveways too :-p
 >

True, but near miss actually makes sense. A hit is binary. Two
airplanes either hit or they don't, there is no near. A miss is analog.
Two airplanes can miss by miles or by inches, this near is appropriate
to describe a miss that was pretty close.

I never have understood the parkway/driveway one though...


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Matt Whiting wrote:

 > True, but near miss actually makes sense. A hit is binary. Two
 > airplanes either hit or they don't, there is no near. A miss is analog.
 > Two airplanes can miss by miles or by inches, this near is appropriate
 > to describe a miss that was pretty close.
 >
 > I never have understood the parkway/driveway one though...

The problem most anal people (including myself) have with "near miss" is
that it is used to mean the opposite of what the literal meaning should.
A near miss should mean that you actualy hit something (though I get
what you mean with the binary thing). Instead it is used to mean that
you actually (barely) missed hitting it - which is not a near miss - it
is a near hit.

Bill Putney
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Bill Putney wrote:
 > Matt Whiting wrote:
 >
  >> True, but near miss actually makes sense. A hit is binary. Two
  >> airplanes either hit or they don't, there is no near. A miss is
  >> analog. Two airplanes can miss by miles or by inches, this near is
  >> appropriate to describe a miss that was pretty close.
  >>
  >> I never have understood the parkway/driveway one though...
 >
 >
 > The problem most anal people (including myself) have with "near miss" is
 > that it is used to mean the opposite of what the literal meaning should.
 > A near miss should mean that you actualy hit something (though I get
 > what you mean with the binary thing). Instead it is used to mean that
 > you actually (barely) missed hitting it - which is not a near miss - it
 > is a near hit.

I don't follow your logic. If you actually hit something, how could it
be a miss of any type, near, far or in the middle? If you hit something
then you didn't miss it at all. However, you can miss something by a
little bit or by an infinite amount. There is no upper limit on miss
distance, but hitting something is pretty much black and white.


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Matt Whiting wrote:
 > Bill Putney wrote:
 >
  >> Matt Whiting wrote:
  >>
   >>> True, but near miss actually makes sense. A hit is binary. Two
   >>> airplanes either hit or they don't, there is no near. A miss is
   >>> analog. Two airplanes can miss by miles or by inches, this near is
   >>> appropriate to describe a miss that was pretty close.
   >>>
   >>> I never have understood the parkway/driveway one though...
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> The problem most anal people (including myself) have with "near miss"
  >> is that it is used to mean the opposite of what the literal meaning
  >> should. A near miss should mean that you actualy hit something
  >> (though I get what you mean with the binary thing). Instead it is
  >> used to mean that you actually (barely) missed hitting it - which is
  >> not a near miss - it is a near hit.
 >
 >
 > I don't follow your logic. If you actually hit something, how could it
 > be a miss of any type, near, far or in the middle? If you hit something
 > then you didn't miss it at all. However, you can miss something by a
 > little bit or by an infinite amount. There is no upper limit on miss
 > distance, but hitting something is pretty much black and white.
 >
 >
 > Matt

So 'near death' means...? Death is binary.

The sun so hot I froze to death, Susanna don't you cry... 8^)

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Bill Putney wrote:

 > Steve wrote:
 >
  >> Hans Mücke wrote:
  >>
  >>
   >>>
   >>> It is like with 2 airplanes coming very close ... in Germany we say
   >>> "Beinahe-Zusammenstoß" (which would translate to something like "near
   >>> hit"), while in english it is called "near miss".
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> Yes, English is fun. We drive on parkways and park on driveways too :-p
  >>
 >
 > And we have people that are disgruntled, but no-one that is gruntled.
 >

Speak for yourself- I always feel very gruntled after a big BBQ dinner <!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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all dealer for dc thats 5 star can work on them and at least one tech in any 5
star has been a sent to school to be crossfire certifed and again i will say no
one wants to work on them all merc. inside and out

Sarge wrote:

 > "mic canic" wrote in message: "If you live in the snow belt it's a summer
 > car it gets stuck easy works better with the traction control off no spare
 > but they give ya a can of fix a flat most dealer don't want to work on them
 > takes for ever to get parts great on gas and quick off the line this is my
 > personal opinion and I have to work on them to boot."
 >
 > Its not that all dealers don't won't to work on them. Only certain dealers
 > are authorized as service centers for them. My wife works at a dealership.
 > They do not sell them becuase they cannot service them. She had to turn
 > down a sale of one and send the customer to another dealership to buy one.
 > She did get three more sales from the customer. The customer was a casino
 > looking ot give cars away for the month.
 >
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oh that reminds me a new 2 seater is due out in 2 years and yes it will have a
hemi

Steve wrote:

 > Norm & Debbie wrote:
 >
  > > Group, what are your opinions of the Chrysler Crossfire? I am researching
  > > insights on the Crossfire for a possible purchase. Thanks!
  > >
  > > norm
  > >
  > >
 >
 > My opinion went up now that they're selling them at bargain basement
 > prices... when it was a substantial fraction of the cost of a Viper it
 > didn't impress me AT ALL.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Bill Putney" <bptn DeleteThis @kinez.net> wrote in message
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 > Matt Whiting wrote:
  >> Bill Putney wrote:
  >>
   >>> Matt Whiting wrote:
   >>>
   >>>> True, but near miss actually makes sense. A hit is binary. Two
   >>>> airplanes either hit or they don't, there is no near. A miss is
   >>>> analog. Two airplanes can miss by miles or by inches, this near is
   >>>> appropriate to describe a miss that was pretty close.
   >>>>
   >>>> I never have understood the parkway/driveway one though...
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> The problem most anal people (including myself) have with "near miss" is
   >>> that it is used to mean the opposite of what the literal meaning should.
   >>> A near miss should mean that you actualy hit something (though I get
   >>> what you mean with the binary thing). Instead it is used to mean that
   >>> you actually (barely) missed hitting it - which is not a near miss - it
   >>> is a near hit.
  >>
  >>
  >> I don't follow your logic. If you actually hit something, how could it
  >> be a miss of any type, near, far or in the middle? If you hit something
  >> then you didn't miss it at all. However, you can miss something by a
  >> little bit or by an infinite amount. There is no upper limit on miss
  >> distance, but hitting something is pretty much black and white.
  >>
  >>
  >> Matt
 >
 > So 'near death' means...? Death is binary.
 >
Life and death are only separated chronologically. So it's a different
dimension than a near miss! The good news is, it's a one-dimensional
problem.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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