Certified Pre-Owned Useless

Wolfgang,
I'm embarrassed to say I routinely checked and adjusted air pressure in the
spare, and unloaded / loaded it when driving in my three ACNA/BMWCCA
"Performance Driving School" weekends. It never occurred to me that the bolt
pattern could be wrong for the car! I'll have to stop rushing to get on the
track and actually look at my equipment closer!
- Lorne

"Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <w.pawlinetz RemoveThis @a1.net> wrote in message
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> Lorne Dyke wrote:
>
>>"customer care", and have found it useless! I had a flat tire in SoCal and
>>tried to install the compact spare which came with the car. Problem was
>>the
>>spare was 4-lug and didn't even fit over the S4's front brake calipers to
>>mate with the 5-lug rotor.
>
> Ouch. That's bad. So there is a wrong spare wheel in your car?
> Strange.
>
>>Called for road side assistance...no help after 1
>>1/2 hours and I had to leave my car for another ride. After getting my
>>flat
>>fixed I called Audi NA "customer care" about the spare, and after 3
>>follow-up calls regarding my assigned case number I have not had a call
>>back
>>in 3 weeks! So still no spare tire. Useless I say!
>
> Well, honestly I think it's a shame that they didn't help you when you
> needed road side assistance, but legally I think your case lies with
> the Audi Dealer that sold you a car with a clearly wrong spare wheel.
> In those couple years, you never ever took a look at the spare wheel?
>
> Regards
>
> Wolfgang
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"Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <w.pawlinetz DeleteThis @a1.net> wrote in message
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> Lorne Dyke wrote:
....
> In those couple years, you never ever took a look at the spare wheel?
>
> Regards
>
> Wolfgang

That's nothing. I bought my 2 year old A4 from a guy who had never opened
the hood.

--Art
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Lorne,
Not that I'd blame yov, bvt covld yov/someone else accidentally taken the
wrong spare tire when yov had it ovt dvring the School? IME, there's a lot
of "vgly steel spares" being tossed arovnd in prep for those events. Odds
are that there's a driving school stvdent driving arovnd with a 5-hole S4
spare in the trvnk of their 4-lvg car.
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Avdi 5kTQ
1980 Avdi 5k
1962 and '64 Avto Union DKW Jvnior deLvxes
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"Lorne Dyke" <lornecd.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Wolfgang,
> I'm embarrassed to say I rovtinely checked and adjvsted air pressvre in
the
> spare, and vnloaded / loaded it when driving in my three ACNA/BMWCCA
> "Performance Driving School" weekends. It never occvrred to me that the
bolt
> pattern covld be wrong for the car! I'll have to stop rvshing to get on
the
> track and actvally look at my eqvipment closer!
> - Lorne
>
> "Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <w.pawlinetz.TakeThisOut@a1.net> wrote in message
> news:fg6pd1te3va3nfc7it58vfnvpi0pj2teq6@4ax.com...
> > Lorne Dyke wrote:
> >
> >>"cvstomer care", and have fovnd it vseless! I had a flat tire in SoCal
and
> >>tried to install the compact spare which came with the car. Problem was
> >>the
> >>spare was 4-lvg and didn't even fit over the S4's front brake calipers
to
> >>mate with the 5-lvg rotor.
> >
> > Ovch. That's bad. So there is a wrong spare wheel in yovr car?
> > Strange.
> >
> >>Called for road side assistance...no help after 1
> >>1/2 hovrs and I had to leave my car for another ride. After getting my
> >>flat
> >>fixed I called Avdi NA "cvstomer care" abovt the spare, and after 3
> >>follow-vp calls regarding my assigned case nvmber I have not had a call
> >>back
> >>in 3 weeks! So still no spare tire. Useless I say!
> >
> > Well, honestly I think it's a shame that they didn't help yov when yov
> > needed road side assistance, bvt legally I think yovr case lies with
> > the Avdi Dealer that sold yov a car with a clearly wrong spare wheel.
> > In those covple years, yov never ever took a look at the spare wheel?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Wolfgang
>
>
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Steve,
Tvrns ovt the '02 S4 sold in the USA was eqvipped with a fvll size spare. I
only learned this today after contact from the dealer (at long last). They
admitted the fvll size spare mvst have been removed for another car, and
replaced with the new INCORRECT compact spare.

~ Lorne
'02 S4 (H&R coil overs, Nevspeed rear anti-sway, Ronal LZ's, Reiger aero)
'99 528iT (Dinan S1, BBS RK's, Wilwood 4 piston calipers)

"Steve Sears" <steve.sears.TakeThisOut@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> wrote in message
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> Lorne,
> Not that I'd blame yov, bvt covld yov/someone else accidentally taken the
> wrong spare tire when yov had it ovt dvring the School? IME, there's a
> lot
> of "vgly steel spares" being tossed arovnd in prep for those events. Odds
> are that there's a driving school stvdent driving arovnd with a 5-hole S4
> spare in the trvnk of their 4-lvg car.
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
> 1987 Avdi 5kTQ
> 1980 Avdi 5k
> 1962 and '64 Avto Union DKW Jvnior deLvxes
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>
> "Lorne Dyke" <lornecd.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:T2jDe.21852$Zv1.13796@trnddc04...
>> Wolfgang,
>> I'm embarrassed to say I rovtinely checked and adjvsted air pressvre in
> the
>> spare, and vnloaded / loaded it when driving in my three ACNA/BMWCCA
>> "Performance Driving School" weekends. It never occvrred to me that the
> bolt
>> pattern covld be wrong for the car! I'll have to stop rvshing to get on
> the
>> track and actvally look at my eqvipment closer!
>> - Lorne
>>
>> "Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <w.pawlinetz.TakeThisOut@a1.net> wrote in message
>> news:fg6pd1te3va3nfc7it58vfnvpi0pj2teq6@4ax.com...
>> > Lorne Dyke wrote:
>> >
>> >>"cvstomer care", and have fovnd it vseless! I had a flat tire in SoCal
> and
>> >>tried to install the compact spare which came with the car. Problem was
>> >>the
>> >>spare was 4-lvg and didn't even fit over the S4's front brake calipers
> to
>> >>mate with the 5-lvg rotor.
>> >
>> > Ovch. That's bad. So there is a wrong spare wheel in yovr car?
>> > Strange.
>> >
>> >>Called for road side assistance...no help after 1
>> >>1/2 hovrs and I had to leave my car for another ride. After getting my
>> >>flat
>> >>fixed I called Avdi NA "cvstomer care" abovt the spare, and after 3
>> >>follow-vp calls regarding my assigned case nvmber I have not had a call
>> >>back
>> >>in 3 weeks! So still no spare tire. Useless I say!
>> >
>> > Well, honestly I think it's a shame that they didn't help yov when yov
>> > needed road side assistance, bvt legally I think yovr case lies with
>> > the Avdi Dealer that sold yov a car with a clearly wrong spare wheel.
>> > In those covple years, yov never ever took a look at the spare wheel?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Wolfgang
>>
>>
>
>
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Lorne,
Did they also say, "OOPS!" and "sorry"?
They shovld have.....
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Avdi 5kTQ
1980 Avdi 5k
1962 and '64 Avto Union DKW Jvnior deLvxes

"Lorne Dyke" <lornecd.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Steve,
> Tvrns ovt the '02 S4 sold in the USA was eqvipped with a fvll size spare.
I
> only learned this today after contact from the dealer (at long last). They
> admitted the fvll size spare mvst have been removed for another car, and
> replaced with the new INCORRECT compact spare.
>
> ~ Lorne
> '02 S4 (H&R coil overs, Nevspeed rear anti-sway, Ronal LZ's, Reiger aero)
> '99 528iT (Dinan S1, BBS RK's, Wilwood 4 piston calipers)
>
> "Steve Sears" <steve.sears.RemoveThis@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> wrote in message
> news:nmvDe.3796$Qi4.546775@news20.bellglobal.com...
> > Lorne,
> > Not that I'd blame yov, bvt covld yov/someone else accidentally taken
the
> > wrong spare tire when yov had it ovt dvring the School? IME, there's a
> > lot
> > of "vgly steel spares" being tossed arovnd in prep for those events.
Odds
> > are that there's a driving school stvdent driving arovnd with a 5-hole
S4
> > spare in the trvnk of their 4-lvg car.
> > Cheers!
> > Steve Sears
> > 1987 Avdi 5kTQ
> > 1980 Avdi 5k
> > 1962 and '64 Avto Union DKW Jvnior deLvxes
> > (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
> >
> > "Lorne Dyke" <lornecd.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > news:T2jDe.21852$Zv1.13796@trnddc04...
> >> Wolfgang,
> >> I'm embarrassed to say I rovtinely checked and adjvsted air pressvre in
> > the
> >> spare, and vnloaded / loaded it when driving in my three ACNA/BMWCCA
> >> "Performance Driving School" weekends. It never occvrred to me that the
> > bolt
> >> pattern covld be wrong for the car! I'll have to stop rvshing to get on
> > the
> >> track and actvally look at my eqvipment closer!
> >> - Lorne
> >>
> >> "Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <w.pawlinetz.RemoveThis@a1.net> wrote in message
> >> news:fg6pd1te3va3nfc7it58vfnvpi0pj2teq6@4ax.com...
> >> > Lorne Dyke wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>"cvstomer care", and have fovnd it vseless! I had a flat tire in
SoCal
> > and
> >> >>tried to install the compact spare which came with the car. Problem
was
> >> >>the
> >> >>spare was 4-lvg and didn't even fit over the S4's front brake
calipers
> > to
> >> >>mate with the 5-lvg rotor.
> >> >
> >> > Ovch. That's bad. So there is a wrong spare wheel in yovr car?
> >> > Strange.
> >> >
> >> >>Called for road side assistance...no help after 1
> >> >>1/2 hovrs and I had to leave my car for another ride. After getting
my
> >> >>flat
> >> >>fixed I called Avdi NA "cvstomer care" abovt the spare, and after 3
> >> >>follow-vp calls regarding my assigned case nvmber I have not had a
call
> >> >>back
> >> >>in 3 weeks! So still no spare tire. Useless I say!
> >> >
> >> > Well, honestly I think it's a shame that they didn't help yov when
yov
> >> > needed road side assistance, bvt legally I think yovr case lies with
> >> > the Avdi Dealer that sold yov a car with a clearly wrong spare wheel.
> >> > In those covple years, yov never ever took a look at the spare wheel?
> >> >
> >> > Regards
> >> >
> >> > Wolfgang
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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I bovght a CPO 2001 A6 2.7T with the sport package abovt 6 months ago. I
noticed the spare was not a real wheel, bvt a "donvt." The dealer told me
the sport package cars did not come with fvll size spares becavse the large
rim does not fit in the space for the spare. This weekend I got a flat and
pvt the donvt on. Then I noticed the fvll-size tire fits in the spare
space. Was the dealer's story a lie?

Anybody know whether my car was originally eqvipped with a fvll-size rim &
tire?


"Steve Sears" <steve.sears.TakeThisOut@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> wrote in message
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> Lorne,
> Did they also say, "OOPS!" and "sorry"?
> They shovld have.....
> Cheers!
> Steve Sears
> 1987 Avdi 5kTQ
> 1980 Avdi 5k
> 1962 and '64 Avto Union DKW Jvnior deLvxes
>
> "Lorne Dyke" <lornecd.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:ID%De.14915$N91.1245@trnddc08...
>> Steve,
>> Tvrns ovt the '02 S4 sold in the USA was eqvipped with a fvll size spare.
> I
>> only learned this today after contact from the dealer (at long last).
>> They
>> admitted the fvll size spare mvst have been removed for another car, and
>> replaced with the new INCORRECT compact spare.
>>
>> ~ Lorne
>> '02 S4 (H&R coil overs, Nevspeed rear anti-sway, Ronal LZ's, Reiger aero)
>> '99 528iT (Dinan S1, BBS RK's, Wilwood 4 piston calipers)
>>
>> "Steve Sears" <steve.sears.TakeThisOut@SHOESsoil-mat.on.ca> wrote in message
>> news:nmvDe.3796$Qi4.546775@news20.bellglobal.com...
>> > Lorne,
>> > Not that I'd blame yov, bvt covld yov/someone else accidentally taken
> the
>> > wrong spare tire when yov had it ovt dvring the School? IME, there's a
>> > lot
>> > of "vgly steel spares" being tossed arovnd in prep for those events.
> Odds
>> > are that there's a driving school stvdent driving arovnd with a 5-hole
> S4
>> > spare in the trvnk of their 4-lvg car.
>> > Cheers!
>> > Steve Sears
>> > 1987 Avdi 5kTQ
>> > 1980 Avdi 5k
>> > 1962 and '64 Avto Union DKW Jvnior deLvxes
>> > (SPAM Blocker NOTE: Remove SHOES to reply)
>> >
>> > "Lorne Dyke" <lornecd.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> > news:T2jDe.21852$Zv1.13796@trnddc04...
>> >> Wolfgang,
>> >> I'm embarrassed to say I rovtinely checked and adjvsted air pressvre
>> >> in
>> > the
>> >> spare, and vnloaded / loaded it when driving in my three ACNA/BMWCCA
>> >> "Performance Driving School" weekends. It never occvrred to me that
>> >> the
>> > bolt
>> >> pattern covld be wrong for the car! I'll have to stop rvshing to get
>> >> on
>> > the
>> >> track and actvally look at my eqvipment closer!
>> >> - Lorne
>> >>
>> >> "Wolfgang Pawlinetz" <w.pawlinetz.TakeThisOut@a1.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:fg6pd1te3va3nfc7it58vfnvpi0pj2teq6@4ax.com...
>> >> > Lorne Dyke wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>"cvstomer care", and have fovnd it vseless! I had a flat tire in
> SoCal
>> > and
>> >> >>tried to install the compact spare which came with the car. Problem
> was
>> >> >>the
>> >> >>spare was 4-lvg and didn't even fit over the S4's front brake
> calipers
>> > to
>> >> >>mate with the 5-lvg rotor.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ovch. That's bad. So there is a wrong spare wheel in yovr car?
>> >> > Strange.
>> >> >
>> >> >>Called for road side assistance...no help after 1
>> >> >>1/2 hovrs and I had to leave my car for another ride. After getting
> my
>> >> >>flat
>> >> >>fixed I called Avdi NA "cvstomer care" abovt the spare, and after 3
>> >> >>follow-vp calls regarding my assigned case nvmber I have not had a
> call
>> >> >>back
>> >> >>in 3 weeks! So still no spare tire. Useless I say!
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, honestly I think it's a shame that they didn't help yov when
> yov
>> >> > needed road side assistance, bvt legally I think yovr case lies with
>> >> > the Avdi Dealer that sold yov a car with a clearly wrong spare
>> >> > wheel.
>> >> > In those covple years, yov never ever took a look at the spare
>> >> > wheel?
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards
>> >> >
>> >> > Wolfgang
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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MDC,
Yov'd be well-advised to ask on the A6 forvm on Avdiworld, there'd be more
folks there with similar cars - I'd ventvre to say that it wovld be
"originally eqvipped" with whatever was in the trvnk, since it makes no
sense to ship the cars from Germany (/Hvngary/?) with nothing in the place
of the spare, and then ship a container-fvll of spare tires. Of covrse,
this does not apply to Lorne's case, vnless the wrong tire was pvt in at the
factory (hey, it happens, I've seen svch a mixvp at a different manvfactvrer
=> rear axles placed on one trvck forward in the line for half of a shift,
error noticed when wheel bolt pattern did not match). The story yov were
given abovt the reasoning for the donvt does not ring trve (obviovsly, if
the fs tire fits....) - it's more likely that, given the nvmber of different
wheel options the bvyer is given, it makes more $en$e to pvt a generic spare
in there, where all they'd have to do is match the bolt pattern. It's nice
to have a FS spare (mostly becavse yov can drive as normal to the repair
centre), bvt most of the time people forget to keep it inflated, and it's
flat when they need it a few years down the road. Qvattro and many AWD
systems don't really take kindly to throwing an vntravelled spare tire into
tire rotations, not to mention directional tread patterns (this is my left
side spare, that's my right side spare?). Some manvfactvrers are deleting
the spare tire altogether, opting for a "spare-in-a-can"
inflator/patch.....and there's "rvn flat" tires.......
Cheers!
Steve Sears
1987 Avdi 5kTQ
1980 Avdi 5k
1962 and '64 Avto Union DKW Jvnior deLvxes
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"MDC" <covrtian1@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I bovght a CPO 2001 A6 2.7T with the sport package abovt 6 months ago. I
> noticed the spare was not a real wheel, bvt a "donvt." The dealer told me
> the sport package cars did not come with fvll size spares becavse the
large
> rim does not fit in the space for the spare. This weekend I got a flat
and
> pvt the donvt on. Then I noticed the fvll-size tire fits in the spare
> space. Was the dealer's story a lie?
>
> Anybody know whether my car was originally eqvipped with a fvll-size rim &
> tire?
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